<Micha>
So I had tried to connect last night but it always asked for pw.
<Micha>
I saw you changed the SSH ports earlier?
<HebaruSan>
21346 for sd2
<HebaruSan>
Is this your full public key? It looks truncated to me: AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAytQcYU4oNBFJ+RyD4Ew8mxsvcsy6eu+FgVR3cktsTVjpFoi2wXy5HF/aUkfCVmvOHqUVALLx6jPsBVLcC6Gt8ui80G1ehokLKHy2q/oRoo9sRQff/aECIkj
<Micha>
That's truncated. Hangon.
<HebaruSan>
I can read your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys but I doubt I can write it
<Micha>
If you could that'd be a significant security issue.
<HebaruSan>
So I'm guessing that's what VITAS needs to fix
<HebaruSan>
Well I am in the 'sudo' group so the bounds of my powers are not clear
<Micha>
Depends if sudo is limited to commands or open.
<Micha>
if you can "sudo su -" then you can do anything.
<HebaruSan>
... and I can't sudo anyway because I don't know what my password is
<Micha>
Well,I just double-checked and I gave the full key to VITAS
<Micha>
lol
<Micha>
I guess that's one way to lock down sudo ;)
<Micha>
Damn, I forgot the program I used on my old server for ssh key forwarding.
<Micha>
It was great.
<Micha>
Ah! Keychain.
<Micha>
Bollocks. And now I've forgotten my password on my server... because I also only ever ssh into it..
<Micha>
But at least I know root on it.
<HebaruSan>
Ahh the NetKAN folder is for generating pull requests, it all makes sense now
<Micha>
We should document this all somewhere. Private dev wiki or something.
<HebaruSan>
Good idea
<Micha>
Mailing lists/irc is good for discussion, crap for documenting.
<Micha>
I had a quick look on GitHub but it appears there's no way to make a private project wiki
<Micha>
At least not on the standard free plan.
<HebaruSan>
Well as long as we avoid pasting in secret keys and so on, maybe it doesn't need to be private
<Micha>
True
<Micha>
Wanted to check with Vitas first though before plonking internal config information into a public place.
<Micha>
Figured he had a reason for emailing us the details instead of pointing us at a readme
<HebaruSan>
thumbs up emoji reaction
<Micha>
Got my IVA working last night. Including Mask. Damn, but those rotations are annoying - why the heck can't it all just be ligned up if it's ligned up in Unity?
egg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<HebaruSan>
Do you need to know quaternions? I haven't worked with IVAs (or modeling in general)
<Micha>
Not really. The GUIs do all the work for you. I'm learning modelling to fix up NEOS.
<Micha>
It's just totally non-intuitive why you have to rotate the IVA by 90deg X, and the mask by 90degX and 180degY in Unity in order for everything to line up correctly in-game. All models are lined up in Blender to start with.
<VITAS>
hi
<VITAS>
there isnt a readme thats just it :)
<Micha>
No worries, we can put one together between us :)
<VITAS>
try again.
<VITAS>
and you know i had to change the ssh port to 213xx?
<VITAS>
theres an readme in your home dir on sd2: first pw sd2 second sd6
<VITAS>
yesthats why i think youre the right people for the job :)
<VITAS>
now working?
<Micha>
Hmm, ok, maybe my ssh forwarding isn't working.. let me try from home (no direct ssh access from work; I have to go via a ssh proxy to my server in Germany from which I was then trying to get to sd2/sd6)
<Micha>
About to leave for home so I can try in ~45min.
<VITAS>
k
<VITAS>
no rush
<VITAS>
your username is "Micha"
<Micha>
Oh.
<Micha>
That's not exactly standard lol!
<Micha>
"Micha" isn't working either. So like I said, maybe my key isn't being forwarded properly (I don't have that particular key on my server..)
<VITAS>
s Connection closed by authenticating user Micha 2a02:... port 54686 [preauth]
<VITAS>
so lets try later then
<VITAS>
when youre home
<VITAS>
speaking of home: ill be in bad honnef at the end of the month :)
<Micha>
I won't be :(
<Micha>
Not sure next time I'll get out of Japan.. right now work is totally crazy.
<Micha>
Anyway, talk in a bit.
<Micha>
Ok, no problem connecting from home
<Micha>
Interesting. I connected via IPv4 to sd6
<Micha>
Those passwords don't seem to work.
<VITAS>
outragous!
<VITAS>
so i meesd ipv6 up now?
<Micha>
sd2 was fine for IPv6
<VITAS>
it was the other way arround yesterday
<VITAS>
have you tried sudo?
<Micha>
Yeah
<Micha>
The passwords don't work
<VITAS>
what about now?
<Micha>
Micha@sd2:~$ sudo su -
<Micha>
[sudo] password for Micha:
<Micha>
Sorry, try again.
<Micha>
Which machine, btw or both?
<VITAS>
try su
<VITAS>
either
<VITAS>
your member of the group su and those are root passwords
<VITAS>
so no excuses
<Micha>
Oh!
<Micha>
I thought they were sudo passwords..
<Micha>
Should never give out root passwords.
<VITAS>
i dont care for those machines
<Micha>
Although sudo user can change root password anyway so doesn't really matter.
<VITAS>
they are basicly your and HebaruSans
<VITAS>
yes
<Micha>
su works
<Micha>
Sorry, didn't realise it was root password :)
<VITAS>
as i wrote those two amchines should be setup as testing and staging (hopfully by you two and anyone i can throw at you)
<VITAS>
they are blank ubuntu lts installations
<VITAS>
(as lxc containers)
* Micha
nods
<Micha>
Noticed ubuntu.. heh. At least it's Debian-deriv so I am familiar with that.
<VITAS>
yes i dont use debian because its packets are to old for my liking
<Micha>
Stable though
<Micha>
I run Debian not only on my servers, but also Desktop
<Micha>
Anything newer I want there's usually backports or something.
<VITAS>
what i want to get to is staging to be code i can switch to on produiction whenever its convenient and testing to be exactly that testing
<Micha>
Although it can get a bit annoying towards the end of a lifecycle.
<VITAS>
if you need more machines for other jobs tell me
* Micha
nods
<VITAS>
yes new debian is iminent
<VITAS>
i had anice chat with a bunch of debian devs a week ago
<Micha>
Yeah, waiting for that :)
<Micha>
I used to maintain Oolite for Debian.
<VITAS>
im in that computer club and we do debian dev events and release partys
<VITAS>
so those people wander arroudn quite often
<Micha>
Unfortunately the Oolite devs are too conservative and refused to update to new libraries. Debian eventually just refused to accept it due to outdated libjscript.
<VITAS>
if even debian calls something outdated :D
<Micha>
lol
<VITAS>
anyway: if you can spare the time you can set up spacedock instances on testing and staging as well as hooks and whatever you want to make development and getting code tested a thing
<Micha>
I really need to retire. I'm too busy with my hobbies to have a full time job!"
<Micha>
Yeah, will have a play around with it!
<VITAS>
ive spacedock the ccc and a few events i help organize
<VITAS>
the rest is me on a bicycle or my feet in nature
<Micha>
In Europe I have motorbike club, here I have Scuba club, then a couple of mods for KSP, I was contributing to some software for Elite, ...
<VITAS>
or as a women at the supermarket once noted after learining im in IT: and people like you do such things?
<Micha>
Lol
<Micha>
Yeah.. not stereotypical IT nerd!
<VITAS>
Mike with his bike :P
<VITAS>
i need a break from tech
<VITAS>
thats why i dont have a (private) smartphone
<VITAS>
or how i say it to people wondering why i as a tech guy dont have all the tech: "should tell you something"
<Micha>
I probably have more than I should have but not as much as most.
<VITAS>
ive lots of stationary tech but few "consumer" things
<Micha>
Yayy, password changed so now I can sudo
<VITAS>
no alexa/siri/cortana/bixbi/...
<Micha>
Shell changed to bash; vim installed.
<Micha>
Ubuntu really is pretty bare-bones!
<VITAS>
no tv (except that old CRT one that isnt connected)
<Micha>
Damn!
<VITAS>
no smartphone so no mobile inet
<Micha>
When I moved to Japan (work paid for the relocation etc) I got a nice big TV.
<VITAS>
but 8 computer screens :D
<Micha>
Couldn't live without mobile internet.
<VITAS>
you could
<VITAS>
but it will be like every drug
<Micha>
Only 3 screens :( But an Oculus.
<VITAS>
mine are 17 and 19"
<Micha>
Oh sure I could. But it's really _really_ convenient.
<VITAS>
so not that impressive
<Micha>
Maps, translation, etc. Especially in a country where you can't speak the language.
<VITAS>
and its so quiet and relaxing without pling plong flashy spoing ohoh
<VITAS>
:D
<Micha>
:)
<VITAS>
ive offline maps on an old smartphoen without simcard
<VITAS>
and podcasts too
<Micha>
Looking forward to diving this weekend - 3 day long weekend. Took an executive decision to book last-minute on the trip when my divermaster mentioned a spot had become available.
<Micha>
I'm burnt out from work right now. I was going to work, but meh.
<VITAS>
but i often forget it because it at home
<Micha>
3 days on an island with no internet will do me the world of good.
<VITAS>
see
<VITAS>
you CAN be without it
<VITAS>
and after the urge to check your emails is over youre fine
<Micha>
Eh, I don't do that sort of stuff. Mostly it's in my pocket for when I need/want to look something up. It's not so much for being contacted.
<VITAS>
if you substract all that foodpic postings and "funny" pics there isnt that much important stuff anyways
<VITAS>
its way more fun making up explanations instead of looking it up on wikipedia
<VITAS>
:D
<VITAS>
"why is that rabbit here?"
<VITAS>
you could lookup the habits of rabbits
<VITAS>
online
<VITAS>
OR
<VITAS>
you could just say "its out buying tea to go with its buiscuits"
<VITAS>
:D
* VITAS
goes to watch some discworld and then code a bit
<VITAS>
(i need someone to explain vuex to me)
<Micha>
I left my imagination in first grade :(
<Micha>
Yayy discworld. Wait, watch? I know of one or two movies for it.
<VITAS>
yes im watching going postal
<VITAS>
and thats pure imagination
<VITAS>
found 3 movies so far
<HebaruSan>
1.7.3 is out
<VITAS>
uh
<VITAS>
lets see if soemone adds it to spacedock that isnt me
<HebaruSan>
I'll try if you send me my sudo and database passwords :)