<LunchBot>
You do a Crazy Ivan to search for suclearnubs. You brake so fast that you break fast.
<Eddi|zuHause>
just one ping!
<XXCoder>
lol
<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You start singing. You set the network record for "longest time using IRC before realising there's more than one channel".
<XXCoder>
well duh was busy singing
<X>
Eddi|zuHause: .2km from what? Another asteroid?
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<Eddi|zuHause>
no. encounter with the asteroid
<Eddi|zuHause>
asteroid is currently on collission course with kerbin, and the right size for the "bring an asteroid into orbit" contract i just got
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<Eddi|zuHause>
aw crap, i somehow missed the reentry maneuver for my science return probe... and the next orbit around it probably runs out of power
<Althego>
catch it?
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<Mat2ch>
X: On the 16th there will be a financial report by TakeTwo. That will probably show what will happen
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<Eddi|zuHause>
so, i just got krackened while docking
<Eddi|zuHause>
no clue what the game thinks happens there
<Eddi|zuHause>
nope, whenever docking, it explodes
<Althego>
lol
<Eddi|zuHause>
if i could make a video...
<Mat2ch>
screen recorder exists. :)
<Mat2ch>
But then you have to upload it somewhere
<Mat2ch>
and it probably shakes itself apart. KSP does this sometimes :(
<Mat2ch>
disable all SAS shortly before docking. Sometimes this helps
<Mat2ch>
and maybe turn the docking force down as well
<Eddi|zuHause>
it explodes during the connection, while it makes it one ship
<Eddi|zuHause>
i've absolutely no clue how to even try to fix this
<Eddi|zuHause>
it's perfectly reproducable
<Eddi|zuHause>
i'll try taking it apart and reassemble it mid flight
<Eddi|zuHause>
nope, didn't work either
<Eddi|zuHause>
i wish you could see this...
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<Eddi|zuHause>
still no clue what's happening
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<Eddi|zuHause>
this is the kind of "why am i even playing this game?" bug
<Pinkbeast>
What's in the Alt-F12 log?
<Althego>
because you were born too early to explore space
<Pinkbeast>
Tereshkova was born in 1937 so if that's so, Eddi|zuHause must be getting on a bit
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
out of billions of people only about what 200 went to space
<Pinkbeast>
I'm in space! I'm just travelling through it on a very large generation ship made from all-natural materials
<Althego>
and actual space exploration was stuck for about 70 years
<Althego>
er 50
<Althego>
why did i write 70
<darsie>
off by one error
<darsie>
Umm ... 20 off by one errors.
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<darsie>
Must have happened in a loop.
<Althego>
probably because no serious explorion since the 70s, and that somehow turned the 50 into 70
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<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
A probe of unknown origin approaches the KSC and hails you. You use the leftover fuel to light a bonfire. Rather than igniting, the wood is merely scattered over a large radius.
<Eddi|zuHause>
not sure whether that's a good or bad thing :p
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<Eddi|zuHause>
Pinkbeast: i see nothing useful in that log
<Eddi|zuHause>
something explodes on docking, but i've definitely docked with this before
<Eddi|zuHause>
not getting anywhere...
<Althego>
but what eplodes? a clipped part?
<Eddi|zuHause>
dunno
<Eddi|zuHause>
i tried detaching a few parts, but nothing helps
<Eddi|zuHause>
and i'm getting confused with the amount of quicksaves
<Althego>
doesnt the normal log say what explodes?
<Eddi|zuHause>
yes, but that's like 20 entries
<Althego>
and why? collided wit hsomething?
<Eddi|zuHause>
no, just "detached" and then "crashed into other parts"
<Eddi|zuHause>
also, something i noticed, with every loading operation the game gets slower...
<Mat2ch>
yes, that's "normal". Sadly.
<Althego>
after 10-12 hours of playing you get to the point where it is faster to restart the game than to wait for another load
<Althego>
i think every scene change adds to this
<Mat2ch>
which makes testing crafts extremly tedious
<packbart>
the KSP Community Fixes fix a few of these memory leaks
<sandbox>
that reminds me of the time I got the error: Vessel Loading Error Vessel Jebediah Kerman was not loaded because it had the following parts missing: unknownPart
<Eddi|zuHause>
that sounds like a missing mod
<sandbox>
I can't remember what caused it, and I don't think any mods were involved
<FLHerne>
.outcome add Vessel Loading Error: Vessel Jebediah Kerman was not loaded because it had the following parts missing: unknownPart.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Vessel Loading Error: Vessel Jebediah Kerman was not loaded because it had the following parts missing: unknownPart.
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<Mat2ch>
hehe
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<Mat2ch>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You install KSP on Linux in a VM in OSX in a VM in Windows ME. The Kraken now lives under the launchpad.
<Mat2ch>
And hopefully gets you in your sleep.
<Althego>
hehe
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<Althego>
i, as many other in my age, have a free os/2 warp demo cd, which was distributed in some computer magazines back in the day
<Eddi|zuHause>
i think i had an OS/2 manual somewhere
<Eddi|zuHause>
i have a windows 3.1 manual
<darsie>
.outcome add KSP2 becomes free open source software.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: KSP2 becomes free open source software.
<Althego>
and this is the most disgusting thing. if they fail ksp2 and still sit on the ip, and not release it
<Eddi|zuHause>
that's, however, the way more likely outcome
<darsie>
.mission add You crowdfund for KSP2 to become free and open source software.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You crowdfund for KSP2 to become free and open source software.
<darsie>
How much would we need?
<Eddi|zuHause>
!outcome add KSP3 is confirmed.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: KSP3 is confirmed.
<Althego>
can you argue in court what a kerbal is?
<darsie>
I can.
<Althego>
so i mean, does the ip include the definition of kerbal, and is that copyrightable?
<Althego>
the name kerbal space program is probably under some restriction
<darsie>
wikipedia didn't accept a KSP screenshot without permission from ... the owners.
<darsie>
s/permission/release
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<darsie>
How many bought KSP1?
<darsie>
ChatGPT: As of my last update in January 2022, it's estimated that Kerbal Space Program (KSP) had sold over 5 million copies across all platforms (PC, consoles, etc.).
<darsie>
If that's true we might crowdfund 10 MUSD.
<Althego>
not really. you need to crowdfund developer and artist time
<darsie>
People created mods without paying.
<Althego>
by buying normal sales this way you also fund profits
<darsie>
getting paid.
<Eddi|zuHause>
i'm pretty sure the concept of "kerbal" is easily protectable, so it probably is
<sandbox>
I wish I could remember what I was doing when I took these screenshots
<packbart>
Star Kerbal
<sandbox>
there are pictures of a stretched kerbal, then the error message picture was (assuming the time is accurate) taken 2 minutes later
<Eddi|zuHause>
hm, i messed around with mods, maybe that'll make it worse...
<Pinkbeast>
darsie: if that's true> hints it might not be include the word "ChatGPT"
<Eddi|zuHause>
ChatGPT is probably the worst source for "facts"
<Pinkbeast>
Well, I could _deliberately_ lie
<Eddi|zuHause>
but ChatGPT is literally created to make up answers out of thin air without any value of truth
<Pinkbeast>
Oh, indeed. But it might get it right by accident, whereas if I deliberately lied, I would be more sure to get it wrong.
<sandbox>
it looks like I did upload the error message to steam, but not the other ones
<Eddi|zuHause>
that's like saying a stopped clock is better than a wrong clock, because the stopped clock is right twice per day :p
<packbart>
The original Kerbal Space Program has sold-in nearly 4 million units worldwide, and earned a Metacritic rating of 88 and a Steam user score of 91%." reads the earning report. ( Take-Two Interactive earnings report for the fiscal third quarter of 2020, which ended on December 31, 2019)
<packbart>
sez my Internets
<Pinkbeast>
Eddi|zuHause: I think a stopped clock is better than a clock that is intentionally trying to mislead you
<Mat2ch>
I'm not sure if that is the best way to get into orbit, but, uh, let's do it anyway
<FLHerne>
What are you trying to enter?
<FLHerne>
(and from what trajectory?)
<FLHerne>
multiple aerobraking passes to lower from high return trajectories into a circular-ish orbit can help
<FLHerne>
.outcome add The camera lens explodes. Returning it under warranty is impractical due to shipping costs.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: The camera lens explodes. Returning it under warranty is impractical due to shipping costs.
<Eddi|zuHause>
well, i'm returning from mun, but i have very limited electrical power, so multiple passes take too long
<Eddi|zuHause>
everything except the probe core survives, but then i can't fire the chute
<FLHerne>
Eddi|zuHause: are you setting the probe core to hibernate, disabling reaction wheels, etc. when not absolutely required?
<FLHerne>
should be possible to stretch even a little EC quite a long time
<FLHerne>
unless the craft is passively unstable on re-entry and requires reaction wheels to not tumble and explode, which is a bad idea :p
<FLHerne>
(also, no solar?!)
<Eddi|zuHause>
yes. it's on hibernate
<Eddi|zuHause>
it was just supposed to get the science results back from mun, and i forgot the reentry time. not sure why, i should have had a maneuver planned
<Eddi|zuHause>
had i done that at the correct time, i would have plenty of ways to get out of this
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<Eddi|zuHause>
successfully sent a grabbing unit... now hopefully that will go better
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<packbart>
couldn't you stage the parachutes before the probe core explodes?
<packbart>
I sent science containers from the mun to Kerbin with just a heat shield and a parachute
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<Eddi|zuHause>
staging the chutes will just rip them off
<Eddi|zuHause>
maybe you can tweak some chute settings
<Althego>
if you set the chute correctly and deploy it in space, it is possible it only opens once it is slow enough
<Althego>
or low enough
<nshire>
hmmmm my orbit line disappeared
<nshire>
it says "cannot quicksave while moving over the surface" but I'm at 10km over the moon going 700m/s
<Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You experiment with dozens of small engines on your craft, EVE online style. And you would have gotten away with it too... if someone didn't speak Welsh.
<nshire>
and I'm getting some pretty extreme camera shake
<nshire>
game is counting me as "landed" still
<Eddi|zuHause>
you're about to get krakened
<nshire>
is 700m/s enough to escape from the mun?
<nshire>
gotta do this manually lol
<nshire>
says my apoapsis is -900km under the mun
<Mat2ch>
700 m/s will be tight
<nshire>
well hopefully 1km/s is enough for escape velocity
<Mat2ch>
but if you are not in a valley, it could suffice