egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|phone|egg>
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<Ellied>
cool, ssh-agent actually works in KDE Neon (presumably an Ubuntu thing)
<Ellied>
it notably does not work (specifically does not store key passphrases) in Manjaro.
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<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: so I'm coming to the conclusions of: ADHD is woefully underdiagnosed (which makes sense! conservative estimates place it at ~8% of population in papers I've read) in anything but primarily-hyperactive-type boys, it's *especially* bad if you're clever enough to work around it until ~university & ADHD folk tend to somehow congregate together and I'm not exactly sure as to why but it does
<bofh>
seem to have a high degree of statistical correlation.
<UmbralRaptor>
hrm
<SnoopJeDi>
seems tricky to do in adults where a pattern of behavior is hard to confirm with any reliability
<bofh>
Except it's really not: the sane way to diagnose ADHD in adults is to give someone 10mg IR Ritalin and have them do a task that they by their own admission struggle greatly with. ADHD folk will see immediate dramatic improvement, non-ADHD folk will see slight if any. But thanks to the DEA, everyone's too paranoid to do that so instead we get... whatever mess we have right now.
<SnoopJeDi>
hmm, do you think that poses a medical concern in relying on self-assessment? (I mean, yea, there's placebo, but...)
<SnoopJeDi>
I legitimately don't know enough about the subject so it's an unbiased question (and one of recent interest as you know >_>)
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<whitequark>
10mg of ritalin for a non-ADHD person is essentially the same as placebo
<bofh>
^
<whitequark>
source: fed 10mg of ritalin to non-ADHD people
<whitequark>
:p
<SnoopJeDi>
huh, I guess I'm super underinformed about the medication then
<bofh>
there's also a huge element (to me at least) of "if it helps you and you are informed and okay with the risks (and they genuinely are about as minor as they get for psychoactive medication IMO), there's no reason you should not have the access to it".
<SnoopJeDi>
I could get on board with that, it'd certainly have made my investigation easier heh
<bofh>
it's fairly easy to get Mod online fwiw.
<bofh>
far from perfect on its own but often helps people dramatically nevertheless.
<SnoopJeDi>
yea, the idea's been planted well enough since before I sought an assessment, it's worth mulling over
<whitequark>
SnoopJeDi: modup.net
<whitequark>
if you're in the US or Canada
<whitequark>
well they sell to other countries too but for the US it's an especially reliable choice
<bofh>
seconding whitequark here
<SnoopJeDi>
hrm
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<rqou>
egg|phone|egg: do you have a link to a good "beginner's intro to cuneiform?"
<egg|phone|egg>
Argh dropped water on phone accidentally retweeting stuff
<rqou>
oh
<rqou>
i thought you were actually trying to contribute to the discussion of "american healthcare is broken af"
<egg|phone|egg>
No personal experience of anything there
<rqou>
yeah, me neither
<egg|phone|egg>
Rqou: did you see that Viet to IPA converter
<rqou>
i did
<rqou>
it's kinda neat
<rqou>
i wonder if you can do pinyin->IPA as well?
<egg|phone|egg>
I would think so
<egg|phone|egg>
Except you need more than 5 transcriptions :-p
<rqou>
troll idea: can you build a mandarin->cantonese sound-only translator?
* egg|phone|egg
no idea
<rqou>
it'll work just fine for e.g. formal announcements and totally fall flat on basic conversations
<egg|phone|egg>
Rqou: I've started to look at learning a bit of Pinyin lately what with names of US colleagues
<egg|phone|egg>
Turns out j and zh seem to map to Viet consonants
<rqou>
possible
<rqou>
but viet has weird sounds like implosives
<egg|phone|egg>
Huh?
<egg|phone|egg>
Afaict j is ch and zh is tr
<rqou>
viet has /ɓ/ and /ɗ/ which i am calling weird because i don't speak any languages that use those sounds :P
<egg|phone|egg>
Well q and ch annoy me
<rqou>
to me at least, /ɓ/ and /ɗ/ are distinctive markers for vietnamese (as in, vietnamese is the most common language that i personally encounter that uses these sounds)
<rqou>
also, /ʈ/ /ʈʰ/ /ɖ/ /ɖʱ/ retroflex sounds are what make indian languages stand out to me
<rqou>
although i can't actually reliably hear the difference between the four different voicing/aspiration combinations
<egg|phone|egg>
Rqou: not sure I am aware of the implosiveness of Viet b (but I might pronounce it)
<egg|phone|egg>
And yeah the Chinese ^h confuses me
<rqou>
O_o i just checked again and viet _doesn't_ have plain /b/ /d/
<rqou>
but wikipedia says that it should have all three of /t/ /tʰ/ /ɗ/
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<rqou>
unfortunately i have the typical anglophone problem of hearing unaspirated /p/ /t/ as /b/ /d/
<egg|cell|egg>
Yeah it has t th đ
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<rqou>
something interesting that i found is that when i speak english i do reliably use initial /tʰ/ and /d/ and when i speak cantonese i reliably use /tʰ/ and /t/
<rqou>
but i still have trouble with identifying the sounds in isolation
<egg|cell|egg>
Probably same for implosive bp un Viet
<egg|cell|egg>
S/un/in
<Qboid>
egg|cell|egg meant to say: Probably same for implosive bp in Viet
<egg|cell|egg>
bd
<egg|cell|egg>
!Wpn rqou
* Qboid
gives rqou a lavatory
<rqou>
wtf
* rqou
flushes Qboid
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<rqou>
airport?
<egg|airport|egg>
Going to ANBO
<rqou>
ah
<rqou>
i assume no 34C3 for you?
<egg|airport|egg>
?
<rqou>
i'll take that as a no :P
<rqou>
34C3 is a hacker con that's happening in a week or so
<egg|airport|egg>
Ah
<egg|airport|egg>
Nah just flying with eyepieces not boards
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<Ellied>
but yes, that does look a bit familiar :P
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<UmbralRaptor>
Huh, Nature Communications costs > 2x the most expensive journal in PLOS. Also, the latter puts way more effort into seeing that authors can meet the fee/outright waving it depending on the country.
<UmbralRaptor>
(please do not increase your impact factor by running over Springer or Elsevier executives)
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<egg|anbo|egg>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a const icosahedron with a trihexaflexagon attachment
<awang>
!wpn -add:adj constexpr
<Qboid>
awang: Adjective added!
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* egg|phone|egg
pets anbocat
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<UmbralRaptor>
egg: anbocat looks slightly irked in one of the pics.
<egg|phone|egg>
True
<egg|phone|egg>
UmbralRaptor: so the eyepiece holder fits the anboscope
<UmbralRaptor>
Yay
<egg|phone|egg>
And a mount should arrive tomorrow
<egg|phone|egg>
OTA from the 60s with fancy eyepieces and mount!
* egg|phone|egg
stares at the fog
<egg|phone|egg>
UmbralRaptor: maybe I should observe with the TV antenna instead
<UmbralRaptor>
DIY radio astronomy?
<UmbralRaptor>
You could find Jupiter.
<egg|phone|egg>
UmbralRaptor: mostly joking about winter Norman weather
<kmath>
<whitequark> 2. you've seen cats stuck with part of the tongue out? if you watch carefully, there's a set of finite state machin… https://t.co/GZmbNCCpSF
<awang>
!wpn -add:adj hybrid
<Qboid>
awang: Adjective added!
<awang>
!wpn -add:wpn hybrid
<Qboid>
awang: Weapon added!
<egg|anbo|egg>
awang: so you can have a hybrid hybrid/hybrid hybrid
<awang>
egg|anbo|egg: eggsactly!
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: Ꙩ_ꙩ cat jumped on my lap to lick the bottom of my butternut soup
<bofh>
clearly it returns the comet sample *to* Titan :P
<SnoopJeDi>
LOL
<UmbralRaptor>
Headcannon accepted.
<egg|phone|egg>
!Wpn bofh
* Qboid
gives bofh a flammable functional
<SnoopJeDi>
!wpn -add:wpn headcannon
<Qboid>
SnoopJeDi: Weapon added!
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, the first place my addled brain took me was "well, Newt Gingrich never explicitly said on *which* moon he intended to build a base..." and from there I was off into imagining a Star Wars crawl detailing the NASA rebellion against the Gingrich Space Imperium
<SnoopJeDi>
"...the evil IMPERIUM, operating from the Saturnian moon TITAN, has captured a rebel probe containing IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC MATERIALS..."