egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<Moistmelon>
err
<Moistmelon>
egg|anbo|egg: what is libstdc++
<whitequark>
Moistmelon: you don't want to know >_>
<whitequark>
literally every part of it is filled with indescribable horrors
<Moistmelon>
... goto?
<Moistmelon>
;D
<whitequark>
for starters, it is related to C++
<whitequark>
seriously though it is gcc's c++ standard library
<Moistmelon>
Dude I program w/ gnu89 and Codesys for a living
<Moistmelon>
C++ def scary lol
<whitequark>
C89?! I'm sorry
<Moistmelon>
yeah -_- I can't say I agree w/ the company's decision on that one.
<egg|anbo|egg>
whitequark: btw, I confirm that the goto is alive and well, and there's another similar one :-)
<whitequark>
>As of 2017, microcontrollers using the C166 architecture are still being manufactured by NIIET in Voronesh, Russia, as part of the 1887 series of integrated circuits. This includes a radiation-hardened device under the designation 1887VE6T (Russian: 1887ВЕ6Т).[3]
<Moistmelon>
whitequark: actually I forget what code I was reading recently but they used goto and it actually made sense
<Moistmelon>
iirc it was some SPI driver code in the STM32F4 HAL
<whitequark>
the vendor NIIET is located at "Old Bolsheviks street" which is incredibly appropriate
<whitequark>
Moistmelon: I am not against goto by any measure
<whitequark>
I *am* against ladder logic though
<Moistmelon>
Basically they had a whole bunch of shit they were doing, and then ONE label at the end of the function labeled "error: ", and each error check in the preceeding code had a if(something that causes and error) { goto error }
<Moistmelon>
lol luckily I'm not doing any ladder logic
<Moistmelon>
just Structured Text
<whitequark>
yes, that's perfectly reasonable use of goto
<whitequark>
it is widely understood by any sane C programmers as acceptable
<Moistmelon>
Really the only one lol
Moistmelon is now known as Wetmelon
<whitequark>
there's probably something else I'm missing, but this is the primary one, yeah
<egg|anbo|egg>
hey my stepsize control gotos are nice too :-p
<whitequark>
Wetmelon: I'm so happy I never touch anything older than, iunno, Rust and Cortex-M :P
<whitequark>
the -M series interrupt controller is amazing
<whitequark>
have you seen it?
<Wetmelon>
The physical hardware?
<whitequark>
the logic it follows
<Wetmelon>
I've USED the interrupt controller, the NVIC or w/e
<whitequark>
yeah NVIC
<Wetmelon>
Haven't dug too much into how it works
<whitequark>
it has a microsequencer that knows the C ABI and stacks/unstacks the registers
<whitequark>
moreover, it understands interrupt priorities, so if while stacking registers a higher-prio interrupt comes in, it continues stacking, and just serves the higher-prio one
<whitequark>
then it *doesn't unstack*, serves the lower-prio one, and unstacks
<whitequark>
does wonders for worst-case latency
<Wetmelon>
Huh. Neat
<Wetmelon>
Gotta go do xmas dinner w/ the fam :)
<Wetmelon>
Merry Christmas errybody :D
<egg|anbo|egg>
thanks, you too (it's the 26th here though :-p)
<egg|anbo|egg>
!wpn Wetmelon
* Qboid
gives Wetmelon a red-black router
<egg|anbo|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a nonagon
<egg|anbo|egg>
!choose zzz|notzzz
<Qboid>
egg|anbo|egg: Your options are: zzz, notzzz. My choice: zzz
<egg|anbo|egg>
;choose zzz|notzzz
<kmath>
egg|anbo|egg: notzzz
<UmbralRaptor>
Raptorchoose: is there coffee available?
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: it's 2
<egg|anbo|egg>
and it's raining so no observations
<egg|anbo|egg>
maybe I can observe on the evening of the 27th?
<UmbralRaptor>
Maybe.
<egg|anbo|egg>
also I woke ANBOcat when going downstairs to grab a bottle of water
<kmath>
YouTube - Прямая трансляция запуска РН "Зенит-2SБ" с КА "Ангосат"
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: oh nice
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: you should add it to Qboid's kountdown
<UmbralRaptor>
!help kountdown
<Qboid>
kountdown: Prints out the details for Kountdown Events
<Qboid>
parameters: -add (Add Kountdown event. Syntax: !kountdown -add name|description|time.), -list (List pending Kountdown Events or subscribers), -remove (Delete Kountdown by id.), -edit (Edits a Kountdown by id.), -subscribe (Subscribe yourself or a channel to Kountdown.), -unsubscribe (Unsubscribes yourself or a channel from the Kountdown.)
<Qboid>
egg|anbo|egg: Description: A Minotaur-C-3210 will launch six SSTL-50-based SkySat satellites (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/skysat-3.htm) from Vandenberg Launch Complex 576E into a 500 km altitude heliosynchronous orbit
<Iskierka>
wiki says 3F
<UmbralRaptor>
Not sure why the YouTube page says 2SB
<UmbralRaptor>
Hm. I'm using so little energy in my apt that my effective cost per kWh is absurd.
<UmbralRaptor>
67 ¢/kWh this month.
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: I seem to have found a cat claw on the carpet Ꙩ_ꙩ
<UmbralRaptor>
They sometimes come off.
<egg|anbo|egg>
huh
<APlayer>
Uh, how much of that was a joke?
* egg|phone|egg
being trampled by anbocat
<egg|phone|egg>
!Wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptor a neon perfluorocarbon
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<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn Ellied
* Qboid
gives Ellied an ice cream
* UmbralRaptor
? OSX in the package management.
<UmbralRaptor>
(since I can't just apt-get wget)
<egg|phone|egg>
Whitequark: can non-mammals be epileptic or bipolar? (And does депакотя work on them)
<egg|phone|egg>
(and how far from mammals can you go)
<egg|phone|egg>
Epileptic octopodes?
<bofh>
So I know epileptic true parrots (amazon parrots/african grey parrots/lovebirds) & epileptic finches/canaries are both a thing.
<egg|phone|egg>
Ah, so that covers UmbralRaptor's relatives
<UmbralRaptor>
hm
<UmbralRaptor>
I want to type that birds do lots of things that supposedly require brain structures unique to mammals.
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<egg|phone|egg>
But can octopodes be epileptic
<whitequark>
egg|phone|egg: no idea
<egg|phone|egg>
UmbralRaptor: what would you recommend in the sky of ANBO tomorrow at 19-20 preferably not WNW
<egg|phone|egg>
(bearing in mind that the anboscope is 60 mm)
<UmbralRaptor>
Messier 42/43, obviously.
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<UmbralRaptor>
M 35-37 for open clusters.
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, my brother is quite the player of ARK, and he explained that he has a particular naming scheme for his dromeosaurae: https://i.imgur.com/xvGyX8s.jpg
* UmbralRaptor
glares at ☽
<UmbralRaptor>
(well, ?)
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: what happens if he gets more than 12?
<SnoopJeDi>
12?
<egg|phone|egg>
UmbralRaptor: Already? I wrote the Christoffel release notes recently...
<egg|phone|egg>
M42 is low at 19
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: I saw Eminem and Dre, and assumed it was a D12 thing?
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: seems to be ??
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<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: is M31 nice in a 60 mm
<egg|anbo|egg>
(iirc I wasn't able to see anything previously but shitty eyepieces and shitty mount near the zenith so maybe it's better?)
<egg|anbo|egg>
pleiades I guess?
<APlayer>
M31 is Andromeda, right?
<APlayer>
Aye, it is Andromeda
<APlayer>
egg: So what is the ANBO all about? I mean, sure, astronomy, but more precisely? What do you do "day-to-day"?
<Qboid>
egg|anbo|egg: [MIPS] => Multiband Imaging Photometer for Spitzer
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: Naglers are fun, with the 13 mm I should be able to fit the pleiades in the field (no chance of that with the Huygens 20 mm of course :-p)