egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath> <AHappierDay> Look at this asshole using up two seats like he owns the train or something https://t.co/imLZ940yLF
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<egg> bofh: https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/938932226657529856 something something ICU file names
<kmath> <bofh453> @bacondropped I like how I can instantly tell that's lapack just from reading any one of those filenames. They *are… https://t.co/ocgXESC9JE
<egg> though tbh smpdtfmt is more in the "did someone order a bucket of vowels" category
<egg> !wpn Fiora
* Qboid gives Fiora a catadioptric debugger
<kmath> <scanlime> The absolute epitome of human craftsmanship and architecture is discovering that you accidentally made a spot your… https://t.co/FLDqn3sEZh
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<kmath> <barrelshifter> talented boy https://t.co/krY81PV4tO
<egg> !seen bofh
<Qboid> egg: I last saw bofh on [30.12.2017 20:57:37] in #kspacademia saying: "er, disregard, thank X11 copybuffer."
* egg thanks the copybuffer
* egg thanks the capybara
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a hard van
<UmbralRaptor> Mohs? Brinell? Knoop?
<egg|phone|egg> !choose fancy kitty|Richey-Chrétien
<Qboid> egg|phone|egg: Your options are: fancy kitty, Richey-Chrétien. My choice: Richey-Chrétien
<egg|phone|egg> ;choose fancy kitty|Richey-Chrétien
<kmath> egg|phone|egg: fancy kitty
<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a cutting staff
<bofh> https://i.redd.it/c09lku6u1luz.jpg no thanks I'll pass
<egg|phone|egg> Uuh
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor : clearly it's a vanadium van, so mohs 6.7?
<egg|phone|egg> Bofh: what is that trying to say
<bofh> "ice cream in assortment", i.e. assorted ice cream.
<egg|phone|egg> Ah.
<egg|phone|egg> And of course spurious article because Russian grammar
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj Russian
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn grammar
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
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<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn whitequark
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<kmath> <drsgthompson> This is Lev, Kate’s handsome new cat https://t.co/9P6DD5QBBV
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: what is the use of switches that open both phase and neutral?
<egg|zzz|egg> (or whitequark or Ellied or someone else who knows something about something and is horrified by the wasp-laden electrical panel)
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<kmath> <Bodegacats_> https://t.co/DHQ7wDWSao
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<whitequark> egg|zzz|egg: neutrals can fail, too
<whitequark> e.g. let's say you have a neutral failure upstream and a lightbulb is turned on
<whitequark> now you have Vphase on neutral
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<egg|zzz|egg> ah
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: so how would you go about finding an initial state for http://www.trappist.one/#system
<egg|zzz|egg> probably need some sort of optimization method to fit the periods (or if I go from the observational data, fit the transits, largely the same thing hopefully)
<egg|zzz|egg> how do I evaluate the actual periods though, and how do I optimize? I Can't Believe It's Not Gradient Descent?
<egg|zzz|egg> hmm, the Nature paper seems to use Levenberg–Marquardt and Nelder–Mead for TTV analysis
<SnoopJeDi> ah yes, ICBINGRAD (pronounced "Ich bin grad")
<egg|zzz|egg> I think bofh coined "I Can't Believe It's Not Gradient Descent" :-p
<SnoopJeDi> I wonder if you could fold a croissant so it's got more folds at one end than the other
<SnoopJeDi> it'd be a gradient crescent
<egg|zzz|egg> groan.
<SnoopJeDi> huh, TIL simplex is also known as the "amoeba method"
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: vaguely wondering whether it would be possible to do transit photometry from ANBO
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: probably the clouds don't help,
<SnoopJeDi> There are certainly ground-based searches, but dunno how much of that is transit, I think a lot of it is RV?
<egg|zzz|egg> SnoopJeDi: well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAPPIST
<egg|zzz|egg> also I think SPECULOOS is transit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPECULOOS
<SnoopJeDi> mmhmm, friend of mine just spent a few weeks there
<egg|zzz|egg> but well, chile is probably better than normandy for that :-p
<SnoopJeDi> at least I think it was TRAPPIST? It was definitely Chile
<egg|zzz|egg> apparently the transit of HD 209458 b was detected with a 10 cm telescope (https://www.aavso.org/media/jaavso/2833.pdf)
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: ground based transit surveys are totally a thing.
<UmbralRaptor> WASP?
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: [WASP] => Wide Angle Survey for Planets
<UmbralRaptor> TRES?
<UmbralRaptor> TrES?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: can transit photometry work from meh skies in a humid area tho
<UmbralRaptor> !acr -add:TrES Trans-atlantic Exoplanet Survey
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: yes. Near IR windows may work better?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: hm... so if I want to try that stuff I should get a reflector rather than a kitty then?
<UmbralRaptor> probably, but B787_300 can point to shenanigans with very large wavelength range SCTs.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: huh, I didn't know B787_300 did photometry
<UmbralRaptor> Job related stuff. He's also doing some *space based) satellite tracking.
<kmath> <whitequark> "Fulminant acute colitis following a self-administered hydrofluoric acid enema" http://t.co/i92khQWvA1
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: huh neat
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I'm confused as to how near-IR windows might work better though
<UmbralRaptor> Better in terms of meh skies.
<egg|zzz|egg> but why
<UmbralRaptor> That is, less turbulence. Also, no moon.
<egg|zzz|egg> aaah right
<egg|zzz|egg> also less pollution?
<UmbralRaptor> Yeah
* egg|zzz|egg still pondering between cute spiderkitty with a carrying handle (VC200L) and a RC
<UmbralRaptor> (Robins!)
<egg|zzz|egg> diapsids!
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: WHY IN THE NAME OF PROCESSED CHEESE WOULD ANYONE SELF-ADMINISTER A HYDROFLUORIC ACID ENEMA?!?
<egg|zzz|egg> "IN THE NAME OF PROCESSED CHEESE"
<egg|zzz|egg> I should steal that
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: any idea about finding a TRAPPIST-1 principia initial configuration?
<egg|zzz|egg> (or about transit photometry in meh skies or anything else in the backlog)
<egg|zzz|egg> (the rest of the backlog is probably catpics tbh)
<whitequark> bofh: cocaine, apparently
<whitequark> I am still lost as to how you get from "cocaine" to "hydrofluoric acid enema" though
<whitequark> like there are definitely some crucial steps missing
<whitequark> and I'm saying this as someone who has read a lot of papers about people on meth doing things I would rather not even name in this channel
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: there seems to be *some* near-IR going through the corrector in the VC200L fwiw http://www.starrywonders.com/ngc3718u32.html
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: yeah, there are some missing steps here; perhaps the reviewer should have asked the author to elaborate on that
<UmbralRaptor> egg: yay
<whitequark> I gotta admit, "self-administered hydrofluoric acid enema" is not a sequence of english words I have ever expected to read
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: but now I'm still left wondering whether kitty or RC :-p (probably the kitty is better for visual or planetary?)
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: I mean I would not have expected to read the translation thereof in any language either
<UmbralRaptor> Also, why would anyone put HF *in* their body?
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: I don't feel like I'm knowledgeable enough to judge.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I guess the main optical differences are the smaller central obstruction in the kitty (the RC has field curvature, but with a flattener you get a similarly-structured kitty) and the ability to use the RC reflector-only (moar & redder photons)?
<kmath> <ken_lunde> I successfully split L2-17-056 into two separate proposals, and just finished the less-controversial one that propo… https://t.co/hsRdlz1i88
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: I'll take a look at the photometry stuff later
<UmbralRaptor> Signs that I'm in the Twilight Zone: the cheapest option for getting Greiner may be through the campus bookstore.
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: happy new year in your timezone
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a ferromagnetic paramagnetic kindle with a hexaflexagon attachment
<UmbralRaptor> Both ferromagnetic and paramagnetic?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
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<egg|zzz|egg> hm, " is a consonant?
<egg|zzz|egg> should I pronounce it glottal stop
<egg|zzz|egg> or maybe a click
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ǀ
<Qboid> U+01C0 LATIN LETTER DENTAL CLICK (ǀ)
<whitequark> latin letter what
<UmbralRaptor> The Latin alphabet is large and confusing.
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<egg|zzz|egg> happy new year in UTC+1
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: I mean, there's ɛ, so
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ɛ
<Qboid> U+025B LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN E (ɛ)
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: also congratulations on accidentally synthetizing better than you intended :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: Fiora: gave phl the Handbook of Floating-Point Arithmetic, it seems nice
<egg|zzz|egg> Fiora: also apparently there's a CRlibm which is a different thing from libmcr? Ꙩ_ꙩ
<UmbralRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: How are the pages numbered?
<egg|zzz|egg> (afaict it's trig in english, not trigo, right?)
<UmbralRaptor> right
<kmath> <EmoJortsGirl> i misspelled egg twice while making this https://t.co/IJKA3Z0KeU
<egg|zzz|egg> (via Fiora)
<UmbralRaptor> kmath: s/egg/ORB/
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor thinks kmath meant to say: <EmoJortsGirl> i misspelled ORB twice while making this https://t.co/IJKA3Z0KeU
<kmath> <PenguinGalaxy> Snoozy New Year from a well-balanced person https://t.co/fLn8O8vgr7