egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<UmbralRaptop> B787_300: Is this relevant to your interests? http://earthspaceconf.mst.edu/
<kmath> <rygorous> You know the Frankenstein/Frankenstein's Monster thing? ⏎ I believe the full name of Visual Studio is actually Visual… https://t.co/CsKVcuWMOv
<B787_300> UmbralRaptop: me personally is interested in it work/school wise i cant say
<B787_300> s/it work/it, work
<Qboid> B787_300 meant to say: UmbralRaptop: me personally is interested in it, work/school wise i cant say
<UmbralRaptop> Ah
<UmbralRaptop> Swedish is a confusing language.
<icefire> people say JP is hard but theres some european languages that I look at and think ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
<UmbralRaptop> JP's orthography is rather messed up. If somewhat less so than English?
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* UmbralRaptop sighs at 📧. Did you have to send me your conspiracy theory about gravitational waves again, Gabor Feket?
<UmbralRaptop> !wpn Majiir
* Qboid gives Majiir a brushless Laplacian
<Majiir> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a pharmacological һοmοɡاурһ
<Majiir> !wpn Soozee
* Qboid gives Soozee a POSIX stinger
<Majiir> Soozee ded
<egg> soozee!
<Majiir> DED.
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<egg> bofh: awang wants to learn about numerics (hence the meowing), do you have any good pointers?
<B787_300> numerics? as in numerical integration?
<egg> well, more generally numerical analysis
<egg> and floating-point madness, etc.
<egg> I could probably give awang some pointer but I should sleep
<egg> and bofh certainly can
<UmbralRaptop> say, 0x5F3759DF?
<bofh> egg: uhh what bit specifically? ieee754? error analysis? numerical linalg? ffts? interpolation/integration?
<egg> awang: meow more specifically
<egg> UmbralRaptop: get a new bird
<egg> bofh: I mean, why not all of it :D
<awang> Uhhhh
<awang> egg: I would prefer my brain not explode :P
<bofh> (and like part of the problem is I don't have a good general-purpose numerics reference to throw at people, I picked up all this stuff from a zillion random places, some of it even by observation)
<bofh> (I should really ask Atlas about this, come to think of it)
<egg> bofh: I mean, same, whatever lecture notes I have are in german
<awang> What maths should I know before learning numerical integration?
<awang> Beceause I'm pretty sure I don't know them
<egg> first-year Calculus?
<awang> Oh, got that
<awang> Been quite a while though
<egg> aka Analysis I for which I have lecture notes in German
<egg> bofh: I mean, we should get Atlas in here, yes
<egg> bofh: but you probably can eggsplain some things to awang in the meantime
<egg> bofh: what kind of cat food attracts numericists
<bofh> numerical integration? like calc I for the simple algorithms & maybe a bit of complex analysis & linalg for Gaussian Quadrature?
<egg> bofh: meh you don't need the complex analysis
<bofh> yeah, on second thought, yeah.
<egg> (unless you want to start raving about A- and B- and L-stability I guess)
<egg> but then you need that even for RK methods
<egg> !wpn -add:adj A-stable
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj L-stable
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj B-stable
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptop> A-, B-, and L-stability?
<egg> yes
<egg> A-stabil!
<UmbralRaptop> (Ignore that I'm half busy with random legal paperwork)
<egg> A-stabbity
<UmbralRaptop> uh
<egg> bofh: although for *practical* numerical analysis I'd recommend some command of FP things, because you will need compensated summations (and in some methods, bona fide double double)
<UmbralRaptop> Okay, EN Wikipedia also has an article.
<bofh> egg: true.
<bofh> extremely true, in fact.
<egg> bofh: and error analysis is always useful, so,
<egg> now, once you've integrated something you'll sometimes want to interpolate it to treat the result as a continuous function,
<egg> bofh: so basically it's just the FFTs that you don't need at this point :D
<egg> bofh: s/ex/eggs/
<Qboid> egg thinks bofh meant to say: eggstremely true, in fact.
<bofh> egg: point
* awang is so lost
* awang meows
<awang> bofh: What in the world is that bug
<awang> Besides really old
<bofh> tl;dr a Cisco kernel-mode driver fails to correctly save/restore FP state, fucking it up at random in the process
<bofh> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA it's not even that, it calls MMX instructions but never runs emms, and this means that fp state is fucked (MMX registers overlap x87's registers in reverse order).
<egg> bofh: anyway you can teach awang about forward and backward error analysis, that's always fun
<egg> I should sleep
<egg> it's 4 in the morning somehow
<bofh> sure, I'll give it a try.
<egg|phone|egg> 喵
<egg|phone|egg> Somehow the keyboard suggests 喵~
<egg|phone|egg> !u ~
<Qboid> U+FF5E FULLWIDTH TILDE (~)
<egg|phone|egg> Why not wave dash
<egg|phone|egg> Or wavy dash
<UmbralRaptop> nya?
<egg|phone|egg> mếu
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<Ellied> I've found my new favorite op-amp I think http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tlv8541.pdf
<Ellied> 27 cents in quantity
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<kmath> <whitequark> savage https://t.co/KnkcOJny0j
<egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a dwarf pulse generator
<bofh> where's my ELF pulse generator?
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<awang> !wpn -add:wpn dependency
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj dependent
<Qboid> awang: Adjective already added!
* awang 🔪 macros
<egg> bofh: I appear to have accidentally come across some FORTRAN http://www.unige.ch/~hairer/prog/stiff/radau.f
<egg> bofh: ... the thing is ALL CAPS EVERYWHERE except for the email addresses Ꙩ_ꙩ
<egg> awang: hey here's some introductory material on numerical integration https://na.uni-tuebingen.de/~lubich/pcam-ode.pdf
<awang> Oh boy
<awang> More procrastination material!
<awang> ...And looks like I need to review my diff eq stuff first
<bofh> egg: rofl
<bofh> why are you dealing with stiff ODEs anyway? those are nasty.
<egg> bofh: I'm not dealing with that thankfully, I was just looking for integrators specific to 2nd order non-special eggsplicit ODEs
<egg> (yes non-special is a silly term but what am I supposed to call it)
<bofh> (general? :P)
<bofh> (hilariously in this case I think that's technically wrong)
<egg> aaaaaaaaaa
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<kmath> <ChemScrapes> Collum
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<egg> meow
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<UmbralRaptop> !wpn -add:adj catnip
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptop> Ah, so that's why they're poison type also… https://twitter.com/grassy_art/status/974101337100218368
<kmath> <grassy_art> A little odd chap but with coriander (or cilantro for Americans) for leaves. A herb garden that often wanders away.. https://t.co/zKzsuLHvrH
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<UmbralRaptop> I think they just called out Physicists https://twitter.com/CurlOfGradient/status/974696507663437831
<kmath> <CurlOfGradient> Abuse of notation almost always results in Lima syndrome, though determining whether it also results in Stockholm syndrome is difficult.
<SilverFox> what's Lima syndrome?
<awang> Huh, never thought about that existing
<awang> Not too surprising though
<awang> Anyone here have experience with pwntools?
<awang> Or retdec?
<SilverFox> how does this apply to notation?
<UmbralRaptop> Sometimes the situational convenience of bad notation means that people like it.
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn shredder
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
* UmbralRaptop puts a post-it labeled "fax" on the shredder.
<bofh> UmbralRaptop: for convenience, position the fax machine upside-down so the sheet feeder dumps the output directly into the bin.
<UmbralRaptop> So it faxes random diamonds of the document?
<bofh> LOL
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<egg> awang: want to test the Coxeter build?
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<awang> egg: Sure
<awang> I live on master, anyways :P
<kmath> <ltelkins> X is for XFC (Xenon Flow Controller, the valve that feeds the xenon from the GIANT tank into the ultra-amazing Hal… https://t.co/tULM724MAc
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<egg> awang: 1.3.1: goo.gl/f4m41R
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<egg> uh
<egg> 1.4.1: goo.gl/QuWbvN
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<egg> awang: 1.3.1: goo.gl/f4m41R, 1.4.1: goo.gl/QuWbvN
<egg> awang: also 1.2.2: goo.gl/MGmmwQ
<egg> !csharp (2.71828182845904509079559829843E0/100).ToString("R")
<Qboid> 0.027182818284590449
<awang> egg: Anything in particular I should be looking for?
<egg> well, whether it works
<awang> Anything special?
<egg> awang: also maybe try making a new save and flying around the Jool system for a few years if you feel like playing stock
<awang> Sure, I'll try that
<egg> but mostly check that the thing built on windows works on mac :-p
<awang> Yeah, that's pretty important
<awang> Would be pretty interesting if only macs could build for macs though
<awang> Since I assume most modders don't have macs
<egg> bofh: discussing geometry with phl: "all norms are equivalent; some norms are more equivalent than others"
<bofh> ROFL.
<bofh> I MEAN BASICALLY.