egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath>
<rygorous> You know the Frankenstein/Frankenstein's Monster thing? ⏎ I believe the full name of Visual Studio is actually Visual… https://t.co/CsKVcuWMOv
<B787_300>
UmbralRaptop: me personally is interested in it work/school wise i cant say
<B787_300>
s/it work/it, work
<Qboid>
B787_300 meant to say: UmbralRaptop: me personally is interested in it, work/school wise i cant say
<icefire>
people say JP is hard but theres some european languages that I look at and think ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
<UmbralRaptop>
JP's orthography is rather messed up. If somewhat less so than English?
Snoozee is now known as Majiir
* UmbralRaptop
sighs at 📧. Did you have to send me your conspiracy theory about gravitational waves again, Gabor Feket?
<UmbralRaptop>
!wpn Majiir
* Qboid
gives Majiir a brushless Laplacian
<Majiir>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg a pharmacological һοmοɡاурһ
<Majiir>
!wpn Soozee
* Qboid
gives Soozee a POSIX stinger
<Majiir>
Soozee ded
<egg>
soozee!
<Majiir>
DED.
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Majiir is now known as Snoozee
* awang
meows
<egg>
bofh: awang wants to learn about numerics (hence the meowing), do you have any good pointers?
<B787_300>
numerics? as in numerical integration?
<egg>
well, more generally numerical analysis
<egg>
and floating-point madness, etc.
<egg>
I could probably give awang some pointer but I should sleep
<egg>
and bofh certainly can
<UmbralRaptop>
say, 0x5F3759DF?
<bofh>
egg: uhh what bit specifically? ieee754? error analysis? numerical linalg? ffts? interpolation/integration?
<egg>
awang: meow more specifically
<egg>
UmbralRaptop: get a new bird
<egg>
bofh: I mean, why not all of it :D
<awang>
Uhhhh
<awang>
egg: I would prefer my brain not explode :P
<bofh>
(and like part of the problem is I don't have a good general-purpose numerics reference to throw at people, I picked up all this stuff from a zillion random places, some of it even by observation)
<bofh>
(I should really ask Atlas about this, come to think of it)
<egg>
bofh: I mean, same, whatever lecture notes I have are in german
<awang>
What maths should I know before learning numerical integration?
<awang>
Beceause I'm pretty sure I don't know them
<egg>
first-year Calculus?
<awang>
Oh, got that
<awang>
Been quite a while though
<egg>
aka Analysis I for which I have lecture notes in German
<egg>
bofh: I mean, we should get Atlas in here, yes
<egg>
bofh: but you probably can eggsplain some things to awang in the meantime
<egg>
bofh: what kind of cat food attracts numericists
<bofh>
numerical integration? like calc I for the simple algorithms & maybe a bit of complex analysis & linalg for Gaussian Quadrature?
<egg>
bofh: meh you don't need the complex analysis
<bofh>
yeah, on second thought, yeah.
<egg>
(unless you want to start raving about A- and B- and L-stability I guess)
<egg>
but then you need that even for RK methods
<egg>
!wpn -add:adj A-stable
<Qboid>
egg: Adjective added!
<egg>
!wpn -add:adj L-stable
<Qboid>
egg: Adjective added!
<egg>
!wpn -add:adj B-stable
<Qboid>
egg: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptop>
A-, B-, and L-stability?
<egg>
yes
<egg>
A-stabil!
<UmbralRaptop>
(Ignore that I'm half busy with random legal paperwork)
<egg>
bofh: although for *practical* numerical analysis I'd recommend some command of FP things, because you will need compensated summations (and in some methods, bona fide double double)
<UmbralRaptop>
Okay, EN Wikipedia also has an article.
<bofh>
egg: true.
<bofh>
extremely true, in fact.
<egg>
bofh: and error analysis is always useful, so,
<egg>
now, once you've integrated something you'll sometimes want to interpolate it to treat the result as a continuous function,
<egg>
bofh: so basically it's just the FFTs that you don't need at this point :D
<egg>
bofh: s/ex/eggs/
<Qboid>
egg thinks bofh meant to say: eggstremely true, in fact.
<bofh>
tl;dr a Cisco kernel-mode driver fails to correctly save/restore FP state, fucking it up at random in the process
<bofh>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA it's not even that, it calls MMX instructions but never runs emms, and this means that fp state is fucked (MMX registers overlap x87's registers in reverse order).
<egg>
bofh: anyway you can teach awang about forward and backward error analysis, that's always fun
<kmath>
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<kmath>
<CurlOfGradient> Abuse of notation almost always results in Lima syndrome, though determining whether it also results in Stockholm syndrome is difficult.
<kmath>
<ltelkins> X is for XFC (Xenon Flow Controller, the valve that feeds the xenon from the GIANT tank into the ultra-amazing Hal… https://t.co/tULM724MAc