raptop changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
<egg|cell|egg>
Bofh which result from Dekker did we look at last time
<egg|cell|egg>
Ah remark 2 of 4.10
<bofh>
yep
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<UmbralRaptop>
… is that ANBOcat or bofh in egg's latest pic?
<kmath>
<johnnypgreco> Here are some example images of red and blue diffuse dwarfs from the #HyperSuprimeCam Survey. #AstroBowl #RoseBowl… https://t.co/f1kN5HzU8D
<kmath>
<whitequark> I'm occasionally helping with review and triage for open-source projects that aren't mine and I think the single th… https://t.co/bhVXIEMLEP
<UmbralRaptop>
Hah =S
<egg|zzz|egg>
yay i haz a RGT test
<UmbralRaptop>
Bleh, blew my monthly bandwidth cap.
* egg|zzz|egg
pets UmbralRaptop
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: wait
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: for January???!
<UmbralRaptop>
Hah
<UmbralRaptop>
No, it's actually a 30 day thing, so I've got like a week until the reset.
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: bofh: also, um, the TRAPPIST-1 optimization cost us 287 CHF of azure compute time (it would have cost less if we hadn't done a handful of bad runs to debug, but 64-core machines aren't cheap)
<UmbralRaptop>
Ꙩ_ꙩ
<egg|zzz|egg>
I don't eggspect to run any computationally intensive tasks in a while so it's a better tradeoff that buying a couple of fancy xeons for the ANBO computation centre though,
<egg|zzz|egg>
if we start producing our own solar system ephemerides because we get tired of the BS of JPL HORIZONS, otoh,
<egg|zzz|egg>
;choose poke at orbit A or B from Russel & Lara|sleep
<kmath>
egg|zzz|egg: poke at orbit A or B from Russel & Lara
<egg|zzz|egg>
stabbity choose poke at orbit A or B from Russel & Lara|sleep
<UmbralRaptop>
egg|zzz|egg: orbit A
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: also cat is in the middle of the bed, how do i around cat
<SnoopJeDi>
SyntaxError: inconsistent usage of 'or' and |
<UmbralRaptop>
SnoopJeDi: the bot chose "or"
<UmbralRaptop>
egg|zzz|egg: displace cat along the a-axis, and enjoy a second laptop?
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptop, oh I'm just a fan of bots that correct humans
<UmbralRaptop>
ah
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: tried to under cat, but cat meowed in discontent and left, possibly to have a drink
<egg|zzz|egg>
might come back after drink though
<egg|zzz|egg>
(the cat drinks in the sink)
<SnoopJeDi>
I'm also coming to enjoy Python's philosophy on exceptions
<UmbralRaptop>
Does the cat turn the faucet on/off?
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: nah, it just has a full sink
<kmath>
<Newpa_Hasai> @whitequark Consensus among CS people seems to be that documentation is for n00bs, or bad UI/UX, or something. I th… https://t.co/LA4QGPvBAr
<UmbralRaptop>
egg|zzz|egg: are bourbachic eggsamples like grothendieck primes?
<egg|zzz|egg>
this feels eggstremely set theory eggsample "the null memory resource is a memory resource; for any memory resource r, monotonic_buffer_resource(&r) is a memory resource; for any memory resource r, unsynchronized_pool_resource(&r) is a memory resource"
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: no, like example: the empty set is a set; given two sets, their union is a set; given a set S, the singleton {S} is a set,
<UmbralRaptop>
Aside from the first one, those don't seem too terrible. Provided I'm trying to work out if things are sets.
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: I mean, in a sense you construct everything from just that, but those aren't very concrete eggsamples of sets (e.g. you could say "the set of prime numbers", "the set of points on the unit sphere", etc.)
<UmbralRaptop>
ah
<UmbralRaptop>
"It is more elegant to use complex notation…"
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tx is now known as UmbralRaptor
<egg|zzz|egg>
tx?
<UmbralRaptor>
I may be somewhat annoyed by someone in another channel.
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<egg|zzz|egg>
which?
* egg|zzz|egg
gives NomalRaptor some aqua regia
NomalRaptor is now known as UmbraiRaptor
<egg|zzz|egg>
Царская водка
UmbraiRaptor is now known as UmbraiRaptop
UmbraiRaptop is now known as UmbralRaptor
<egg|zzz|egg>
🜆 🜇
<UmbralRaptor>
… oh
<UmbralRaptor>
It took entirely too long to figure out the Russian.
<egg|zzz|egg>
also speaking of alchemical symbols, afaict 🜨 is the character to use for Earth
<egg|zzz|egg>
since ♁ is not the one commonly used for astronomy
<egg|zzz|egg>
and it clearly isn't a circled +
<UmbralRaptor>
;u♁🜨
<egg|zzz|egg>
earth, alchemical symbol for verdigris
<UmbralRaptor>
IIRC, ♁ is on the BMP, but 🜨 is with the emoji?
<bofh>
I like how the counter clerk at the Picard was, like, "ce soirée glacé?" after, like, scanning the fifth
<bofh>
yes, yes it very much is.
<SnoopJeDi>
lol
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<SnoopJeDi>
bofh, do you know what M69's redness tells us, if anything? First thought is Mars-alike composition, but I know so little about planetary systems that I have no idea if that's even a sensible analogue
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: I know a tiny bit -- the source is rather different. (some sort of ice)
<UmbralRaptor>
Uh, redness suggests similarity with Triton and Pluto (!)
<SnoopJeDi>
oh right
<SnoopJeDi>
...do we know why Pluto is red?
<SnoopJeDi>
well, brown
<UmbralRaptor>
weird organic ices, I think. Not sure beyond that.
<UmbralRaptor>
But, like, the KBOs in more disturbed orbits are usually grayer?
<kmath>
<✔mikamckinnon> Assume 2 spherical cows in a low-velocity inelastic collision with the tiniest bit of kinetic energy lost to deform… https://t.co/n18sFn0Tg5
* UmbralRaptor
🔪 📱
<UmbralRaptor>
s/wrote/we/
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptor: but does this mean I should observe 2014 MU69 from ANBO,
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: you can try,
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|zzz|egg: You can search for other anatids and contact binary cows.
<kmath>
<SpaceJosh> When China's Chang'e 4 mission lands on the Moon soon you're going to read a lot of mistaken info about where it la… https://t.co/13HQQxfPnf
<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: I mean this is always the case; a lot of the difficulty with CN missions to places is that xinhua basically restricts what is being told to others until well after the event happens sucessfully (or scrubbing everything entirely if it was a failure)
<UmbralRaptor>
Fun, just like the soviets
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<bofh>
UmbralRaptor: I mean it's the same isoform of communism
<UmbralRaptor>
Yeah.
<UmbralRaptor>
Any idea good/bad they've been with data releases?
<bofh>
I have contacts thru a friend of a friend at Jiaotong that can get me some restricted-ish datasets that would, in the NASA or ESA world, just be on fucking public FTP.
<bofh>
it's not a heavy restriction, just enough to be annoying.
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<egg|anbo|egg>
bofh: yes though here it's specifically the naming of the basin that confuses things, more than CN herself
<UmbralRaptor>
hm
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: clearly we should resolve that by turning the basin into a primary mirror
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|anbo|egg: it's only the largest confirmed impact basin.
<egg|anbo|egg>
yes
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: i think it's not the first time that we discuss turning it into a telescope here
<kmath>
<ridingrobots> A warning, kids: just look at this before-and-after. ⏎ ⏎ Trips to the inner solar system--not even once. https://t.co/xtTr6aQPLY
<UmbralRaptor>
;c 2500e3^2*pi/4
<kmath>
UmbralRaptor: 4.90874e+12
<UmbralRaptor>
;c 5778^4*5.67e-8
<kmath>
UmbralRaptor: 63196526.54602919520039
<egg|zzz|egg>
!choose zzz|pretty plots|conditionally limit geopotential degree to 30
<egg|zzz|egg>
;choose zzz|pretty plots|conditionally limit geopotential degree to 30
<kmath>
egg|zzz|egg: conditionally limit geopotential degree to 30
<egg|zzz|egg>
stabbity choose zzz|pretty plots|conditionally limit geopotential degree to 30
* egg|zzz|egg
should probably zzz considering travel tomorrow
* egg|zzz|egg
zzz
<egg|zzz|egg>
;pet bofh, UmbralRaptor, whitequark, et al.