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<whitequark>
01:02 <@mofh> how much butter did we go thru in that last week at ANBO again? iirc it was like 1.2kg
<whitequark>
the fuck
<egg|zzz|egg>
whitequark: nah its' probably less than that
<egg|zzz|egg>
maybe 750 g?
<UmbralRaptop>
were you trying to climb a space elevator?
<egg|zzz|egg>
<mofh> trying to make sense of what happened to Saint-Jean-le-Rond. was it never built despite appearing on city plans, remolished, merged into another building? <<< oh there might be some confusion here; the french word "plan" here means map in this context, not that which is intended
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: OH. thank, false cognates >_<
<egg|zzz|egg>
thognates.
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: okay, so from what I gather the wooden scaffold in the belfry securing the bells is very damaged from wire and fater and liable to give out? (it looks carbonized, at least)
<mofh>
..
<mofh>
fire and water
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: the floor in the tower is damaged, making the photographer's task tricky
<whitequark>
wire and fater
<mofh>
huh, the wood furniture seems to be in good shape?
<mofh>
and that's a pretty much complete rosette window, i'm impressed (and relieved)
<egg|zzz|egg>
yeah, the nave and choir are mostly ok aside from water, except where the ceiling fell on them
<mofh>
the ceiling seems to have mostly fallen into the center part of the nave?
<mofh>
okay the west(?) rosette window looks to be perfectly intact?! I'm impressed the lead securing the glass in-place didn't melt.
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: people were observing that there were candles unmelted
<egg|zzz|egg>
the only fire in the nave was where the spire fell, and later where bits of vaulting collapsed
<egg|zzz|egg>
including at the crossing of the transept, yes, there a full vault collapsed
<mofh>
yeah I'm referring to the charred remains of wood at the crossing of the transept mainly.
<mofh>
it's kind of this big heap
<egg|zzz|egg>
yup
<egg|zzz|egg>
that looked like the hottest bit in the photos of the fire
<egg|zzz|egg>
presumably the limestone there turned to lime, and the whole vault collapsed
<egg|zzz|egg>
(and then the wood that was on top ended up on the floor)
<egg|zzz|egg>
the modern altar was apparently under there, but the old one is fine in the choir
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: the rose that's shown closely in these photos is the one in the north transept i think
<mofh>
Yes, that's the north rosette
<egg|zzz|egg>
whitequark: tire and wafer
<UmbralRaptop>
That is a very confusing variant on communion
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: rite and wafer
<mofh>
LOL
<mofh>
oh, so the actual limestone coll--oh right, the calcination temperature is actually low enough to be reached with a wood fire.
<whitequark>
limestone what
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: so if you look at the scaffolding, which is steel, the central parts of it (above the crossing of the transept) are severely bent down
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: that gives you an idea of the temperature
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: re. towers: the wooden scaffolding holding the bells (the belfry proper) is safe afaict; it was threatened when the fire got in the northern tower, and had it burned down the tower would have collapsed (likely bringing down a lot of the structure with it), that was the main concern, and the focus of the firefighting, between 22 and 23 on the 15th
<mofh>
OTOH that bell is LOUD, it rings for 5 minutes before the Sunday organ concertos and you can hear it clearly from the Saint-Germain-des-Prés métro stop then.
<kmath>
<ValeriaAugusta8> À #Rome, le premier palais de Néron ouvre ses portes au public. Il s’agit de la Domus transitoria sur le #Palatin https://t.co/2afV7mPAzl
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: plz link me more french twitter archæologists btw
<kmath>
<bertrandchazaly> Un petit thread sur les relevés 3D sur #NotreDame : ⏎ Je vois fleurir un nombre incalculable d'articles sur le clone… https://t.co/QP7EMsfygI
<kmath>
<M_Panneau> Petite explication détaillée sur la lasergrammétrie et sur #NotreDame , la 3D à partir d'un scanner. Merci… https://t.co/Qtq1hsUlvD
<kmath>
<zhuowei> 100% accurate test for checking if you're a nerd: ⏎ How many fountain pen inks can you name, off the top of your head… https://t.co/GLHwqDkdXQ
<kmath>
<✔GretchenAMcC> This is a public service announcement that you can now get an International Phonetic Alphabet layout in GBoard (the… https://t.co/uSU1VtQ4Do
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<egg|cell|egg>
[zis iz ø najs kibɔʁd]
<egg|zzz|egg>
(yes that's a horrible accent :-p)
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: wasn't the lasergrammetry actually done relatively recently, iirc in 2015?
<mofh>
also holy shit (but can we PLEASE have the capability to make custom GBoard layouts without that being utter hell?)
<mofh>
(like just let me pick what unicode glyphs I want on the damn layout)
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: https://twitter.com/zhuowei/status/1118754518500380673 <- interestingly, still none, like despite multiple of my close friends pretty much only using fountain pens at this point i still have never used one somehow.
<kmath>
<zhuowei> 100% accurate test for checking if you're a nerd: ⏎ How many fountain pen inks can you name, off the top of your head… https://t.co/GLHwqDkdXQ
<kmath>
<bertrandchazaly> En 2013, Andrew Tallon a enregistré an scanner 3D plus d'un milliard de points dans et autour de la cathédrale. On… https://t.co/RmEMtSnFKO
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: see the thread, multiple lasergrammetries
<kmath>
<bertrandchazaly> D'autres opérations de numérisation ont eu lieu. La plus dense, couvrant la charpente de la nef, est celle des entr… https://t.co/YaBS8sjU4G
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: because you have to know what it is you're plonking scaffolding on, that central scaffold was huge
<mofh>
Oh, so *that's* what life3d.fr is
<mofh>
I'm actually impressed by how many lasergrammetries have been done; like I don't think most other Parisian monuments have gotten that treatment to that extent
<egg|zzz|egg>
or most non-parisian cathedrals
<egg|zzz|egg>
it's parisian and iconic, so it does get a ton of attention
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: rofl so I read that, went "okay I must be misunderstanding this, b/c I'm reading this as if there were *beehives* in the roof of Notre Dame?", feed it into gtranslate and uh
<mofh>
apparently yes, they are indeed talking about beehives? TIL
<mofh>
(Also that is a huge relief then, 200K bees is a huge collection of hives)
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<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: yes, it's bees
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: three hives
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: 25 kg/a of honey, sold to the notre dame staff
<mofh>
that's a lot of honey, damn.
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: still very impressed at how quickly they built those supports for the pediment of the northern transept
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2138: Rename the Slippist b planet. - https://git.io/fjYpM
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I mean, likewise.
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I can see why it was necessary and also how it was possible but I'm still impressed.
<egg|zz|egg>
mofh: maybe i should log the value of χ²/ν in my optimization
<egg|zz|egg>
mofh: ν here is 3 * number of fitted positions - number of parameters, right?
<egg|zz|egg>
no SRP: χ² = 8.62493e+12 χ²/ν = 1.01113e+10 max error = +9.74680327971289444e+02 m
<egg|zz|egg>
!wpn mofh, whitequark, et al.
* galois
gives mofh, whitequark, et al. a saber
<mofh>
17:22:49 < egg|zz|egg> mofh: ν here is 3 * number of fitted positions - number of parameters, right?
<mofh>
pretty sure, yeah.
<egg|zz|egg>
Generation 100; Acceptance: 20 / 120 E0418 19:28:26.393051 9700 solar_radiation_pressure_test.cpp:187] Max : χ² = 3.67285e+10 χ²/ν = 4.3058e+07 max error = +4.80827483364942836e+01 m: {-1.21798850939830862e-07 m s^-2, +2.72705095596999812e-08 m s^-2, +1.24696529670517905e-07 m s^-2}, (+1.45131317594161521e-07 m s^-2, -3.33869610305791374e-08 m s^-2), {{-1.55332874075954752e-01 m, +5.04218726407753282e-02 m
<egg|zz|egg>
mofh: χ²/ν = 4.3058e+07 seems a bit high >_>
<egg|zz|egg>
though arguably i'm not sure how meaningful it is, i'm deliberately ignoring many things that are going to be above 1σ with the uncertainty CODE have
<egg|zzz|egg>
<mofh> interestingly, still none, like despite multiple of my close friends pretty much only using fountain pens at this point i still have never used one somehow. <<< clearly we need to sort that out next time you're around
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<kmath>
<pyry> Lutefisk hotline: ya hey, what's the deal now? ⏎ Sven: Ya, we ran out of lutefisk ⏎ Lutefisk hotline: oh jeez ⏎ Sven: oh… https://t.co/hWeISfjjKB
<kmath>
<✔CNES> C'est la journée mondiale des radioamateurs 📡 Si vous aviez raté nos tweets sur le sujet en février, ils sont ici 👇 https://t.co/xx9UmnKZFH
<mofh>
(also I'm amused at how the percentage of my twitter TL that's French is, like, creeping up fairly quickly, lol).
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy closed issue #2129: Update the TRAPPIST-1 patch for SLIPPIST-1 0.7.0 - https://git.io/fjqnv
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/fjO3t
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy c0344a1 - Rename the b planet.
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy 4f8ff41 - Merge pull request #2138 from pleroy/2129 Rename the Slippist b planet.
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2138: Rename the Slippist b planet. - https://git.io/fjYpM
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: sholud i zz
<SnoopJeDi>
!8
<galois>
SnoopJeDi: yes
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<UmbralRaptop>
!u 🥰
<galois>
No info for U+1f970 (I only know about Unicode up to 9.0)