raptop changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
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<mofh> egg: yes i do eggsist
<UmbralRaptop> high SNR mofh detection (deteggtion?)
<mlbaker> "Thus, when one sees three cups on a table, one also sees the set."
<mlbaker> *hits bong*
<egg|cell|egg> Mofh: meow
<mofh> miaou
<egg|cell|egg> Mofh: the cat is loud
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<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn Moistmelon
<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn mofh
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<Wetmelon> was
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: this looks reasonably aligned on my machine
<Wetmelon> How's it hangin, mr egg?
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: 北斗 is aligned at 3/2, みちびき at 4/7
<egg|laptop|egg> Wetmelon: good
<egg|laptop|egg> about to release the next Principia version
<Wetmelon> nice
* egg|laptop|egg wonders which timezone mofh is in
<Wetmelon> btw what part of France are you in
<Wetmelon> I've been planning to visit. If I end up in your area I'll buy you a beer lol
<egg|laptop|egg> Wetmelon: most of the time i'm in switzerland
<egg|laptop|egg> right now i'm in normandy
<Wetmelon> oh shit ok. I'm living in Stuttgart at the moment
<mofh> egg|laptop|egg: it seems reasonably aligned to me?
<mofh> also still EST
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: yeah it is
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: but see, it's very much not 1/2
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: might be 3/5 or something, it's between 3/2 and 4/7
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: other amusing thing
<egg|laptop|egg> my terminal is in SimSun lately, and I've been very annoyed at the fact that everything other than latin and digits is fullwidth...
<mofh> egg|laptop|egg: I mean it's arguably odd that it's somthing downright weird
<egg|laptop|egg> (and ascii punctuation as well etc.)
<mofh> also SimSun is, like, latin, digits, CJV
<egg|laptop|egg> nah, it has greek and cyrillic and plenty of stuff
<mofh> and imho Hanzi in a terminal *should* be fullwidth
<mofh> ...huh, wtf.
<egg|laptop|egg> what happened to Korea,
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: anyway
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: ⏨ is halfwidth
<egg|laptop|egg> which makes sense
<egg|laptop|egg> but it's odd that they designed it correctly
<egg|laptop|egg> I guess if you want to write ALGOL in CJKV you're covered
<egg|laptop|egg> or interact with 6-bit гост encodings,
<mofh> I mean you never know when you might want to do just that,
<egg|laptop|egg> ⏨ is a good character tbh
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: re. CJKV width, it makes a lot of sense that the ratio be larger than 1/2 in a fixed-width font designed with western scripts in mind; fixed width generally has pretty wide characters (because you want m to not look silly, and it's fine if i has a generous serif)
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: seems Consolas 14 is 7 by 14 *including interline spacing*
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: compare with NSimSun which is 16 by 7 including interline spacing
<kmath> <ParisAMDParis> Le grand orgue devra être nettoyé mais pas démonté après l'incendie de Notre-Dame de Paris https://t.co/H58FzPff3m
<mofh> egg|laptop|egg: also fair, I suppose
<mofh> Mind you I use NSimSun 12 which seems to be 12 by 7, so.
<kmath> <eggleroy> @stephentyrone @whitequark How about the implicit ratio, to cater to those who think rationals are a good general-purpose numeric type...
<mofh> LOL
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy created tag 2019050423-Fáry - https://git.io/fpDwq
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy tagged 81a4264 as 2019050423-Fáry https://git.io/fjGcO
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: should I rename principia::numerics::DoublePrecision to principia::numerics::GrubbyDoublePrecision https://twitter.com/volatile_void/status/1121899148373106688
<kmath> <volatile_void> @stephentyrone tfw your idol call your favorite floating-point format “grubby” https://t.co/YKHc03tRzA
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<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] fat-lobyte commented on issue #2137: Integration of Trajectories aerodynamic prediction mod - https://git.io/fjGC4
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] fat-lobyte closed issue #2137: Integration of Trajectories aerodynamic prediction mod - https://git.io/fjYP0
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy created branch revert-2143-2128 - https://git.io/fpDwq
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy pushed 1 commit to revert-2143-2128 [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjGCa
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy 308d62e - Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account"
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2148: Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account" - https://git.io/fjGCV
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy edited pull request #2148: Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account" - https://git.io/fjGCV
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2148: Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account" - https://git.io/fjGCV
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2148: Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account" - https://git.io/fjGCV
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/fjGCK
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy 933d221 - Merge pull request #2148 from mockingbirdnest/revert-2143-2128 Revert "Take the thrust limiter into account"
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy deleted tag 2019050423-Fáry - https://git.io/fpDwq
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy deleted tag 2019050423-Fáry
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy created tag 2019050423-Fáry - https://git.io/fpDwq
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy tagged 933d221 as 2019050423-Fáry https://git.io/fjGC1
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<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjGWO
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy 6373a5f - Remove Fano.
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2128: Take the engine thrust limiter into account in manœuvres - https://git.io/fjGWG
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy reopened issue #2128: Take the engine thrust limiter into account in manœuvres - https://git.io/fjths
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<egg|laptop|egg_> !wpn mofh
* UmbralRaptop gives mofh a 40 W CO2 laser
<egg|laptop|egg_> ow, no bot?
<egg|laptop|egg_> IGS?
<egg|laptop|egg_> ow.
<UmbralRaptop> no bot
* UmbralRaptop chirps at SnoopJeDi
<mofh> egg|laptop|egg_: ?
<egg|laptop|egg_> mofh: meow
<mofh> rofl Grubby Double-Double
<egg|laptop|egg_> mofh: orbit analysis of sorts https://hastebin.com/okiqivelay.cs
<mofh> sec
<egg|laptop|egg_> mofh: have you looked at the IGS mirrors btw
<kmath> <pangmeli> cool how the corners of laptops evolved to feel good against cats cheeks thereby aiding pollination
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2147: Remove checkpointing of Ephemeris and ContinuousTrajectory - https://git.io/fjGIY
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] Pending. Build queued… - 
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3569/
<UmbralRaptop> !choose walk 45 minutes | wait 65 minutes
<UmbralRaptop> !decide walk 45 minutes | wait 65 minutes
<egg|laptop|egg_> ;choose UmbralRaptop ought to walk 45 minutes | UmbralRaptop ought to wait 65 minutes
<kmath> egg|laptop|egg_: UmbralRaptop ought to walk 45 minutes
<_whitenotifier-3d18> [Principia] Success. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3569/
<egg|laptop|egg_> taskkill /f /im chrome.exe
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* UmbralRaptop 🔪 🚌
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<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: should I compute the inclination from the mean of the osculating inclinations at the ascending nodes, or from the mean of the maximum latitudes (or from something else)
<egg|laptop|egg> I guess latitude range is the more tangible thing
<B787_300> ...
<B787_300> i think the max lattitude would be more intuitive for most people
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: yeah, and when you're directly picking an inclination for its own sake it's probably the thing you care about (if you pick an inclination because of its effect on ω' then you should really be watching ω', not i)
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* UmbralRaptor approves of iximeow photographing flocculant spirals
<iximeow> :D
<iximeow> UmbralRaptor: did you see i figured out why images seem to be wobbly?
<kmath> <iximeow> fan on vs fan off https://t.co/gWEm5ziMCO
<iximeow> "fan off" for values of off meaning "blocked by a piece of metal i shoved through the heat sink because the camera has no way to turn off the fan"
<UmbralRaptor> yes, also aaaaaaa
<UmbralRaptor> Also, for some reason I couldn't find the moons
<iximeow> they're not great pictures
<egg|laptop|egg> iximeow: is the wobbly one sharper or is that an illusion due to the wobbliness
<iximeow> that's just seeing
<egg|laptop|egg> iximeow: Nice, how many stacks https://twitter.com/iximeow/status/1122571362558595073
<kmath> <iximeow> m63 - i've done this one a few times but this is definitely best so far https://t.co/JL6BvrrzVZ
<egg|laptop|egg> cat is snoring
<iximeow> egg|laptop|egg: 11x60sec
<egg|laptop|egg> nice
<egg|laptop|egg> (well, no, you would need 9 more seconds for that to be nice, but)
<iximeow> i wonder what would be an appropriate target for 69x420sec...
<egg|laptop|egg> I've never managed to get decent images beyond 10 s, probably because my polar alignment was shit
<egg|laptop|egg> 420 seems pushing it in that respect though
<egg|laptop|egg> 420 × 69 s might be easier
<iximeow> i've gotten polar alignment down decently lately - all the images are unguided
<iximeow> after i replace the fan that's probably next, since stars will finally stop being so dang blobby
<egg|laptop|egg> never tried guiding
<egg|laptop|egg> (only have 1 CCD so it would be manual guiding, I would eggspect that to make the image very noisy because of eggs bumping into things)
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<UmbralRaptor> Note to self: upgrade egg's optics in the K band
<kmath> <✔Alex_Parker> It’s so windy that I just saw a duck hover.
<egg|cell|egg> UmbralRaptor: also clouds
<UmbralRaptor> Okay, also the radio K band
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<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: hm https://hastebin.com/isezehufow.cs
<egg|laptop|egg> mofh: do you know where to find the JAXA version of IS-QZSS (linked here but not archived https://web.archive.org/web/20170529102617/http://qz-vision.jaxa.jp:80/USE/is-qzss/index_e.html)
<egg|laptop|egg> there's http://qzss.go.jp/en/technical/ps-is-qzss/ps-is-qzss.html but I don't think it's the JAXA documents
<egg|laptop|egg> !choose sleep|sun-synchronous orbit
<egg|laptop|egg> ;choose sleep|sun-synchronous orbit
<kmath> egg|laptop|egg: sun-synchronous orbit
<egg|laptop|egg> stabbity choose sleep|sun-synchronous orbit
<UmbralRaptor> Sleep in a sun-synchronous orbit
<egg|laptop|egg> which mean solar time of ascending node,