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<whitequark>
Ellied: oh, did you quit twitter?
<Ellied>
whitequark: we did
<Ellied>
not much to say, really. we miss a lot of folks from there, especially you, but the relief on our mental health when we left was enormous
<mofh>
Ellied: my guess? human trying to scare you off, possibly by imitating a wolf/large dog
<Ellied>
makes sense
<Ellied>
wonder how they made that sound, though...
<mofh>
what *is* this factory of, or rather what was it?
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<mofh>
presumably just practise, an eternity ago my parents would drag me camping and i'd proceed to chat with the park rangers any chance i'd get, and some of them had an uncanny ability to pull off extremely inhuman animal calls to a degree i wasn't expecting to be possible.
<whitequark>
Ellied: it's understandable.
<whitequark>
each time i look at mastodon it looks kind of more and more a disaster to me, in terms of mental health, so...
<whitequark>
i don't know.
<whitequark>
maybe i just hate change, maybe there's something to it
<Ellied>
our trick is to just stick to the shadows as much as possible
<Ellied>
join a small instance - or better yet, self-host a single-user instance of your own - and make some friends, hang out with them, and never look at the federated timeline
<Ellied>
getting involved in Masto Dev Politics would destroy us very fast
<Ellied>
mofh: re: factory; we haven't a clue. that catalog on the table in the "workshop" room might have told us, but it was damaged and we were focusing on not disturbing anything
<Ellied>
the front door just says "<Name> Industrial Process Systems" or something similarly vague
<Ellied>
we can run by again tomorrow and just look from the street to get the specific name
<mofh>
Ellied: so something like a catalog on the table is perfectly okay to disturb in such a place, imho
<mofh>
Ellied: and yeah, if it's not too much trouble, feel free to grab the specific name when you have a chance, i'm curious
<whitequark>
Ellied: the way i use twitter is i write something that reaches 100k people, and maybe one of them will be my friend someday
<whitequark>
so... that'd be the direct opposite of it
<whitequark>
mhm
<whitequark>
maybe mastodon just isn't for me
<Ellied>
we dunno. befriending folks has, for us, always taken the form of meeting friends-of-friends-of-friends, which is easy to do over here
<whitequark>
the way i met bofh was ... looking for outliers in people who liked my tweets
<whitequark>
i still do that
<Ellied>
friendship by broadcast never worked for us
<whitequark>
i see
<Ellied>
furthermore, there is little that we can comfortably broadcast to 100,000 people that would be particularly conducive to making friends, honestly
<Ellied>
and we would also tend to make enemies
<whitequark>
mmm.
<Ellied>
one of the last straws for us on twitter was having dreadful people show up in our mentions to call us a "man in a dress pretending to be a woman" (as if we have ever actually worn a dress, but we digress) which, who the hell has time for that
<Ellied>
if we broadcast our existence to 1e5 people and .1% of them are angry enough about who we are to tell us so, then we've already got more people than we can reasonably sit there and block one at a time without going mad
<Ellied>
maybe we really just have fundamentally different relationships with online communities here
<Ellied>
mofh: we were not even really concerned if disturbing it was okay or not, we were just... trying to minimize our presence, we guess.
<Ellied>
didn't help, or anything, we have all the stealth of a knight in a suit of plate armor
<mofh>
i mean from the looks of it there don't seem to be any signs in your pics alerting of a private rent-a-cop firm monitoring the place, and the police would almost certainly be visible in some way (generally squad car parked outside somewhere) if they were there, and it seems to be private and not gov't property, so there isn't really anything worse than a tresspassing charge you're at risk of, and even
<mofh>
that's not likely.
<Ellied>
right
<Ellied>
being a white twentysomething with a clear motive in a college town? we expected to get off with a warning
<Ellied>
our main fear was attracting the attention of anyone or anything hiding out in the building
<mofh>
i mean in my (limited) experience doing urbex here, all you generally run into are random homeless people; i guess you found an outlier, heh.
<Ellied>
we're trying to come up with a picture of who we ran into. someone frequenting the place walks up to the entrance, sees our only-hidden-from-the-road bike on the ground, doesn't mess with it, but suspects that they have company. enters the place really quietly, hears us trampling around in the next room and sees our light.
<mofh>
egg|cell|egg: i think i actually a have a nicely general way to at least *bound* Ляпунов eggsponents now, with a pretty tight bound generally (basically, in terms of Krylov subspace recurrence coefficients
* mofh
continues staring at this paper
<Ellied>
walks up to the doorway, slowly, probably apprehensive. makes the snarling-barking-coughing noise. watches our light go out, hears us stop moving. waits. makes the sound a couple more times. our light comes back on, we jam all our shit in our backpack, and start wrenching open the overhead door. satisfied, they wait for us to leave.
<mofh>
also today in "things that made me giggle": labelling the "strange metal" phase of a Cuprate phase diagram as the '""normal"" phase' (yes, in double scare quotes).
<Ellied>
seems plausible enough.
<Ellied>
ah yes, "strange "normal"" metal
<mofh>
(it is very not normal, like, eggsperiment suggests that there are *no* eleggtronic quasiparticles in this state, and we have basically no clue what the actual fuck or how the actual fuck that's even a thing that makes sense)
<Ellied>
wow
<Ellied>
anyway, we're beginning to suspect that urbex might be better done via drone...
<mofh>
(like it's the thing at high temperatures past optimum doping, dope closer to optimum and you get pseudogap instead, dope even further away from optimum and you get a bog-standard fermi liquid instead)
<mofh>
like i think you had a very unusual run-in, but also drone would actually be interesting to see
<mofh>
especially since those can easily get in, say, high-off-the-ground cracked/broken windows that would be a pain for a human to reach, assuming they even can fit thru in the first place.
<Ellied>
yeah, for sure
<Ellied>
our mother is quite sure that we almost died, keeps saying we need self-defense lessons
<mofh>
honestly if that went to confrontation tbh pepper-spray-and-run is likely the best course of outcome (assuming you have some pepper spray on you, ofc).
<Ellied>
we don't, we'll mark that down as preparation mistake #46
<mofh>
(amusingly, it's not urbex that led to me carrying some around, but rather managing to get groped once and catcalled a few times last year. i'm honestly still *confused* about that, like why me, but might as well have some around just in case)
<mofh>
(plus if i ever run out of hot sauce, i have a backup,)
<Ellied>
pffff
<Ellied>
what we're most confused about still is just where this person came from
<Ellied>
there was *no one* out walking when we biked through
<mofh>
honestly, prolly someone using the place as their living quarters, most likely.
<Ellied>
there aren't many directions of approach, really. going off the EXIF timestamps of our photos, we spent less than 3 minutes inside prior to the encounter, and we feel like we would have seen someone 3 minutes away on foot
<Ellied>
maybe they had a car... but if they did, it wasn't parked nearby
<Ellied>
we searched every nook and cranny as we passed, and don't really think they could have been in the building the whole time and had us pass right by
<Ellied>
we wanted to set up a "trap" at the entrance - some obstruction that would be noisy to move - that would tip us off to company behind us. but we didn't have what we needed to make that.
<Ellied>
basically, what we learned today is that it's very hard to be sure you're alone
<whitequark>
Ellied: oh. that's disgusting.
<whitequark>
and very understandable.
<mofh>
04:35:37 <@Ellied> we searched every nook and cranny as we passed, and don't really think they could have been in the building the whole time and had us pass right by
<mofh>
why not? if they were being quiet and crouched low/on the ground, i can easily see them going unnoticed
<mlbaker>
if it was actually a human , i have to wonder what would have happened if you just went around the corner
<mlbaker>
seems odd to make all sorts of weird noises rather than just "GET OUT"
<mlbaker>
mofh: what are you doing with lyapunov exponents?
<mofh>
mlbaker: measuring entanglement phase transitions in quantum systems, it just so happens the formalism you get when you try to assign a sensible analogue of the von Neumann/Rényi entropy to this problem gives you essentially Ляпунов eggsponents
<mofh>
mlbaker: oh man so last night I was wondering if it's possible to simplify 2F1(a,b,a+b,-1) (or 2F1(a,a,a+b,1/2)) into something reasonably tractable and the answer... seems to be likely nope, 2F1 is just too vile for that to be enough of a special case to simplify.
<mofh>
(oh, for bonus fun, a is a positive integer... if it were negative that would be trivial, but positive *still* doesn't help us at all here with this combo of parameters).
* egg
meows at mofh, whitequark, et al.
<egg>
<whitequark> the way i met bofh was ... looking for outliers in people who liked my tweets << iirc you met me (and this channel) because some combination of principia + thomas having issues with your IRC logger
<kmath>
<whitequark> @eddyb_r @FrozenFire @DJSnM have you seen my 4000-word KSP rant yet? basically, Lagrange points are out, sun-synchronous orbits...
<egg>
whitequark: did you ever write down that rant btw, it sounds fun
<whitequark>
it can be replaced with two words, "principia is awesome"
<whitequark>
yes
<whitequark>
that one
<egg>
whitequark: <3
* egg
purrs
<whitequark>
like it's literally everything i want from ksp
<whitequark>
except
* egg
has questions about the wordcount algorithm
<whitequark>
i never actually played with principia ;_;
<whitequark>
the wordcount was memey
<egg>
whitequark: well, principia + FAR I suppose
<egg>
ferram4 is the aerodynamicist
<whitequark>
oh yeah
<egg>
"lack of conics would not kill just time warp, it'll also kill trajectory planner and absolutely any notion of a stable orbit" << it's odd how before Principia became the rebuttal to that, this meme had become a thing
<egg>
esp. the timewarp aspect is weird
<egg>
any notion of a stable orbit is ultimately at the mercy of the solar system administrator of course, orbiting the real-life moon is Fun
<whitequark>
stable orbits are still a problem right?
<egg>
whitequark: like, for comparison, the JPL Development Ephemeris 102 goes from the year 200 to the year 2800, and was computed with nine days of Univac time
<egg>
whitequark: that's timewarp 100 000 right there, on a Univac
<whitequark>
oh
<whitequark>
nice
<egg>
now there's some cheating here: they only do planets, not moons (we have no concept of the moon-planet hierarchy so we just compute the force of Callisto on Venus without any fancy simplification), but we cheat in the other direction by not being on a Univac
<egg>
whitequark: stable orbits are interesting
<egg>
the short answer is it depends on what you want from your orbit, and it depends on how fancy your gravity models are
<whitequark>
well
<egg>
until recently we had only J2 (oblateness, equatorial bulge)
<whitequark>
owo
<egg>
hah
<egg>
*notices the second degree zonal harmonic*
<egg>
whitequark: that has an effect on orbits that can be easily analytically described
<egg>
whitequark: basically, Ω and ω vary linearly with time (nodal and apsidal precession)
<whitequark>
precession is good, actually
<whitequark>
i *want* precession
<egg>
you can make ω' = 0 by using the молния (ултика?) inclination
<egg>
Ω' enables sun-synchronous orbits, as you know
<whitequark>
yeah
<whitequark>
soo hm
* whitequark
stares
<egg>
when you are interested to what happens with respect to the ground (synchronous or otherwise recurrent orbits), Ω' is just something that adds itself to the rotation of the earth
<egg>
so it doesn't make things trickier
<whitequark>
lemme actually you know
<whitequark>
run ksp with principia
<egg>
:D
<whitequark>
it's really a pity my laptop isn't ... reallly ... powerful enough for it
<egg>
whitequark: if you want to have J2 in stock you'll have to have a custom patch, I think I wrote one for you a while back, I'll try to dig it up
<whitequark>
1.7.0 is fine, right?
<egg>
not yet, we're on 1.6.1
<egg>
brb i should take a shower
<egg>
whitequark: now you can get annoying perturbations from two sources: one is third bodies, and the other is higher geopotential terms
<egg>
third bodies mainly affect high orbits (it's notable in GEO for instance)
<egg>
higher geopotential terms affect you more the "more synchronous" your orbit is
<egg>
so a semisynchronous orbit (ground track repeats after two orbits, going once aronud the earth) like GPS is way more perturbed than the orbits of Galileo and ГЛОНАСС
<whitequark>
hmm
<whitequark>
i mean, i like that
<whitequark>
the thing was more like
<egg>
Galileo and ГЛОНАСС do repeat, but it takes longer to get back to the same configuration: for ГЛОНАСС it's 17 orbits to go 16 times around the Earth
<egg>
s/16/8/
<galois>
egg meant to say: Galileo and ГЛОНАСС do repeat, but it takes longer to get back to the same configuration: for ГЛОНАСС it's 17 orbits to go 8 times around the Earth
<whitequark>
if you *want* something to stay in a stable orbit, ksp provides you no tools to do so currently
<egg>
For Galileo I think 17 orbits to go 10 times around
<whitequark>
because the orbiters don't run their scripts in time warp or while you're switched to another one
<egg>
whitequark: yeah, and with Principia it's the same unfortunately, so you can't really stay in GEO for instance
<whitequark>
:(
<egg>
but you can pick orbits that are less demanding
<egg>
I'm working on tooling to make it possible to better understand what kind of orbit you're on
<whitequark>
hmmm.
<whitequark>
oooooh
<egg>
right now you just have apsides and squiggles in map view
<egg>
because Principia pretends conics don't exist
<egg>
but really, in many cases, perturbed conics are a useful framework
<whitequark>
mhmm
<egg>
no telling you "this orbit repeats its ground track [2; +1; 8] (every 17 orbits, going 8 times around the Earth), its apsidal precession is blah, etc. would make it possible to pick a nice orbit"
<egg>
misplaced closing quotation marks here
<egg>
whitequark: that's how I ended up in the rabbit hole of the SP3 format, trying to get test data for that orbit analyser
<whitequark>
oooh
<egg>
whitequark: that's also why i bought that french book that talks about orbits
<egg>
which hopefully i will show to ANBOcat next week,
<whitequark>
12:44 <@egg> Last Line number = 8+2*(INT(NSAT/17.01)+1)+NCOMM+(NEPCS*(NSAT+1))+1 .
<whitequark>
WHAT
<egg>
ah yes you want the preceding paragraph too
<egg>
If no Velocity and Clock Rate-of-Change Records or Correlation Records are
<egg>
present, and the number of satellites (NSAT) is less than or equal to 85,
<egg>
and the number of comment lines is equal to the minimally required 4, and
<egg>
the number of epochs = NEPCS, then the last line number in the file can be
<egg>
computed as:
<egg>
Last Line number = 22+(NEPCS*(NSAT+1))+1 .
<whitequark>
nooo
<egg>
I have yet to see a file with Velocity and Clock Rate-of-Change Records or Correlation Records btw
<egg>
no nevermind
<egg>
Velocity and Clock Rate-of-Change I have seen
<egg>
not Correlation Reconds
<egg>
s,onds,ords,
<egg>
they sound useful but i have not seen any
* whitequark
stares at KSP launcher
<whitequark>
i feel like i'm not smart enough to figure out the mods system again ;_;
<whitequark>
i think mostly it's that it is really hot here
* UmbralRaptor
applies a peltier cooler to whitequark
<egg>
whitequark: the mods system is largely "drop things into gamedata"
<UmbralRaptor>
the launcher is b0rked, and should be avoided.
<egg>
there is a launcher?
<UmbralRaptor>
also what egg typed
<UmbralRaptor>
er, patcher?
* UmbralRaptor
checks
<egg>
whitequark: caveat: I don't play KSP very often (and when I do it often is RSS), because, well, a lot of that has turned into Principia development/reading about astrodynamics
<egg>
so i am not familiar esp. with recent developments
<egg>
(aka no idea what happened since 1.2.2, maybe 1.3.1)
<egg>
i think they changed the looks of a bunch of parts
<UmbralRaptor>
launcher.exe
<egg>
huh
<UmbralRaptor>
and yeah, lots if part looks, the making history expansion (including a mission builder), and stock ΔV readouts
<egg>
(let me guess, the stock Δv readouts fail if you use realfuels?)
<Ellied>
we feel like principia is a work of incredibly powerful magic and it's absolutely a wonder that it is anywhere remotely compatible with KSP
<egg>
by its design it tends to not be very compatible with other mods, in the sense that the stock APIs can't meaningfully be used to understand what principia is doing (and, with rare exceptions, absolutely cannot be used to tell principia what to do)
<egg>
rare exceptions including FAR, whose forces are interchanged via stock KSP and integrated by Principia
<egg>
but e.g. something like #2137 seems fundamentally infeasible
<Ellied>
we hope this isn't still using our horrific Python code
<egg>
so the last three wpns are a paraboloid with a sumerogram knife, a hieroglyphic knife, and a typographical dagger
<egg>
very stabby
<egg>
Ellied: no, it's using a differently horrific snake i think
<UmbralRaptor>
well, yes
<egg>
!wpn -meow
<galois>
ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 1) (file "/home/snoopjedi/.sopel/modules/wpn.py", line 43, in wpn)
<Ellied>
ah good
<egg>
see, snek
<Ellied>
mmmmmmmm
<Ellied>
!wpn
* galois
gives Ellied a lanthanum potato with a dinosaur attachment
<egg>
please detach UmbralRaptor from the potato
<Ellied>
ſtabby
<egg>
ſtabbity
<UmbralRaptor>
especially as I am not GlaDOS
<Ellied>
you are, however, more likely than not to be powered at least in part by chemical reactions involving potatos
<Ellied>
:potatothink:
<egg>
whitequark: orbit design has a lot of really fun stuff, but although you need something like principia in order to do it, you would also need a lot of other mods to have meaningful constraints
<egg>
whitequark: e.g. sun-synchronous orbits only make sense if you care about illumination angle
<egg>
and some recurrent orbits are designed to fly over specific spots
<egg>
(e.g. FormoSat-2 is phased so as to fly over Taiwan twice a day, in addition to being sun-synchronous)
<egg>
I think it might be one of the only sun-synchronous satellites that are phased over one day
<egg>
SPOT?
<galois>
SPOT: Satellite Pour l’Observation de la Terre
<egg>
gaaaaaah there is some plumbing whistling for some reason
<kmath>
<pcwalton> @whitequark I assumed you were referring to this kind of seal before loading the picture https://t.co/vk7ayVDWET
<UmbralRaptor>
"Today, we take the next step. I am announcing the creation of a Mason Sustainability Council, which will coordinate our actions to strengthen our environmental performance as a university as well as our educational and research programs in the areas of sustainability and environmental stewardship."
<UmbralRaptor>
Have you considered lobbying the city to expand bus service?
<galois>
[WIKIPEDIA] Six-bit character code#GOST 6-bit code | "A six-bit character code is a character encoding designed for use on computers with word lengths a multiple of 6. Six bits can only encode 64 distinct characters, so these codes generally include only the upper-case letters, the numerals, some punctuation characters, and sometimes control characters..."
<galois>
[WIKIPEDIA] GOST 10859 | "GOST 10859 (1964) is a standard of the Soviet Union which defined how to encode data on punched cards. This standard allowed a variable word size, depending on the type of data being encoded, but only uppercase characters.These include the non-ASCII ⏨ (U+23E8 ⏨ DECIMAL EXPONENT SYMBOL). It was used..."
<SnoopJeDi>
Rationale: watched Arrival with my gf last night
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #2137: Integration of Trajectories aerodynamic prediction mod - https://git.io/fjsz2
<egg>
whitequark: that "nine days of Univac time for 2600 years of ephemerides" thing is a fun perspective
<egg>
whitequark: sadly I can't find how much DEC Alpha time was spent on DE405
<egg>
that's a much shorter ephemeris though, 1600 to 2200 iirc
<egg>
"""Integrations prior to DE405 were performed on a Univac mainframe computer in double precision, with a 60-bit mantissa; DE405 was integrated on a VAX Alpha in quadruple precision. In all cases, the integration error has been significantly less than the estimated error resulting from the uncertainties in the adjustment of the initial conditions and constants to the observational data. These latter errors are discusse
<egg>
d later in Section 8.9."""
<egg>
but no computation time
<egg>
!acr -add:VAX Virtual Address eXtension
<galois>
Definition added!
<egg>
!acr -add:DEC Digital Equipment Corporation
<galois>
Definition added!
<UmbralRaptop>
60 bit mantissa?
<egg>
DEC floats \o/
<UmbralRaptop>
Aren't they normally only 53 bits in x86?
<kmath>
<whitequark> the shittiest, most badly done counterfeit clone of Schuko i have seen doesn't exhibit any of the safety problems e… https://t.co/8w7ECVGTEi
<egg>
(or CEE some/thing in general)
<egg>
!wpn whitequark
* galois
gives whitequark a magpie
<egg>
!wpn -add:wpn quark
<galois>
Added wpn 'quark'
<whitequark>
egg: they don't, mostly
<whitequark>
other than like, falling apart
<whitequark>
and shitty cable
<egg>
ah
<whitequark>
but that is a problem you can't possibly fix with plug design
<egg>
whitequark: there are a lot of pre-CEE french plugs (and sockets) at ANBO
<egg>
whitequark: they're thinner than schuko, so you can't plug earthed stuff in them unless you have a dodgy adapter (there are dodgy adapters), but you can plug Europlug
<UmbralRaptop>
!wpn -add:wpn hadron
<galois>
Added wpn 'hadron'
<whitequark>
egg: pic?
<egg>
whitequark: i don't think i have a pic at hand, ask me again tomorrow when i'm at ANBO
<egg>
whitequark: the plugs has two metal cylinders with a slit through them
<egg>
whitequark: the round clearance here is rarely present, it's often a more europlug-like flat format
<egg>
whitequark: and the socket fits that, fits europlug (which as you know is designed to fit in a lot of stuff) and does not fit CEE 7/7 plugs)
<whitequark>
egg: wtf
<whitequark>
thats
<whitequark>
a carbon copy of the soviet plug?!
<egg>
:D
<egg>
whitequark: is the soviet socket also smoler than CEE 7/7
<whitequark>
uh i think so
<whitequark>
it's not exactly compatible
<whitequark>
but super close
<egg>
might be similar to swiss things too
<egg>
swiss sockets also have holes to smol to fit the prongs of CEE 7/7
<egg>
whitequark: but it's something from the early 1970s in FR so it's hard to find proper documentation even
<egg>
not sure how it is in SU
<whitequark>
which republic was that
<egg>
whitequark: it's the 5th since 58
<whitequark>
thats a lot of republics
<egg>
whitequark: yeah it's also a bit weird how you count them
<egg>
whitequark: like, you have the Convention, the Directory, the Consulate, the Empire, the Restauration, the Empire for 100 days again, the Restauration, the July monarchy, the Second Republic, the Empire (that's the Second Empire), the Third Republic, <1939-1945>, the Fourth Republic, and then the Fifth Republic
<egg>
whitequark: where the Directory counts as the first one
<UmbralRaptop>
The Bourbons were the 0th empire, right?
<egg>
whitequark: the Consulate sort of prefigures the Empire so I guess that's why it's not counted, and the Convention is weird
<egg>
whitequark: ah nevermind
<whitequark>
egg: confusing
<egg>
whitequark: the first republic is both the directory and the consulate
<egg>
whitequark: no even the Convention too
<egg>
whitequark: so basically you have three constitutions that are lumped into 1 to get this numbering
<egg>
whitequark: but anyway it's fairly rare to refer to those three regimes as "the 1st republic" so you only start numbering them from the 2nd on :-p
<egg>
whitequark: and there's a sort of continuity between the consulate and the empire too, so it's extra-weird
<egg>
whitequark: the relevant constitutions are the constitutions of year I, of year III, of year VIII, and of year XII for the Empire
<egg>
an average of one constitution every four years,
<egg>
whitequark: also the constitution of year I never applied, because the convention decided that the government would remain revolutionary until peace
<egg>
and then everyone proceeded to shorten everyone for a couple of years,
<whitequark>
uhhh
<egg>
whitequark: oh yeah this makes 1917-1921 look straightforward tbh
<egg>
<whitequark> a carbon copy of the soviet plug?! <<< not sure if that's the case here, but there were a lot of technology eggschanges, see e.g. SÉCAM
<egg>
!wpn -add:adj SÉCAM
<galois>
Added adj 'SÉCAM'
<egg>
!wpn whitequark
* galois
gives whitequark a breaded lithium polygon
<kmath>
<sigfig> @bitemyapp not rly sure books and explosives storage go well right next to each other
<egg>
<egg> whitequark: it's the 5th since 58 <whitequark> thats a lot of republics << wait, this might have been ambiguous
<egg>
whitequark: the 5th started in 1958, and is still the current one
<whitequark>
ohhhhh
<whitequark>
yes
<whitequark>
i got confuse
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<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2141: Synchronize the prognostication when recording and replaying the journal - https://git.io/fj39e
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] pleroy edited pull request #2141: Synchronize the prognostication when recording and replaying the journal - https://git.io/fj39e
<_whitenotifier-3d18>
[Principia] RocketSquid commented on issue #2118: "Apocalypse has occurred" message never goes away - https://git.io/fjsVh
RadvelRaptor is now known as UmbralRaptor
* UmbralRaptor
stab stab stabbity stab stab
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: bats?
<UmbralRaptor>
yttib!
<UmbralRaptor>
Anyway, I probably got our horrible hack of an mcmc system running on another node
<egg>
yay
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: s/m/м/
<galois>
egg thinks UmbralRaptor meant to say: Anyway, I probably got our horrible hack of an мcmc system running on another node
<UmbralRaptor>
. o (I should run Principia on our cluster)
<egg>
:D yes
<egg>
!wpn whitequark
* galois
gives whitequark a nice cannon
<egg>
nice
<UmbralRaptor>
You: transit is good
<UmbralRaptor>
me: is taking a bus home because it's faster to do that, then drive to the restaurant and theater where I'll be hanging out with friends, then to swap buses and/or walk several miles