UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
<UmbralRaptor> hah
<SnoopJeDi> so apparently LHC is enough to think about probing γγ → W⁺W⁻
<X> 16:44:02 <SnoopJeDi> γγ → X would be two photons creating [something]
<X> Creating me.
<SnoopJeDi> X, found you!
<X> I am the something!
<UmbralRaptor> X boson confirmed!
X is now known as X_boson
<X_boson> Wut?
<SnoopJeDi> ah and that design report claims there are some anomalous events that have "large missing E_T and no other tracks, but without detecting the photons"
<SnoopJeDi> at sqrt(s) = 7 TeV, mind
<SnoopJeDi> so yea, looks like LHC is enough to make it happen, although it's not a dominant channel
<whitequark> huh
<whitequark> !wpn egg
* galois gives egg a boron germanium coilgun
<whitequark> !wpn
* galois gives whitequark a thulium Christoffel rifle
<X_boson> Isn’t the LHC 7 TeV one way though?
<SnoopJeDi> and it seems like to the extent that CTPPS is interested in γγ they'd be doing precision spectrometry on the protons to detect recoil
<SnoopJeDi> X_boson, sqrt(s) is CoM energy, and that report was published in 2014, so it's talking about Run I
<egg|cell|egg> Meow
<SnoopJeDi> but yes the design top energy is 14 TeV CoM
* UmbralRaptor pets egg
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* galois gives UmbralRaptor a proactinium ballistic tardigrade
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark an iron cetacean
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, don't you go firing that tardigrade at the Moon, now
<UmbralRaptor> Soon to be a rustacean
<SnoopJeDi> ha!
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<kmath> <PubicZirconium> https://t.co/My4SP4mKnv
<B787_300> UmbralRaptor: i hope not
<X_boson> I hate Ohio
<B787_300> X_boson: why
<X_boson> Unless some ridiculously hot person who falls in love with me comes from there.
<X_boson> Ohio is awful
<X_boson> Lots of hills
<X_boson> No superior climate aspects
<X_boson> No superior cities.
<X_boson> Bad sports teams
<X_boson> Lots of random industry but not like good industry like Pennsylvania
<X_boson> Mostly just dislike the two lane highways and hills that got me car sick though.
<B787_300> X_boson: but the NMUSAF
<B787_300> and Cedar Point
<X_boson> I have a plane museum in Seattle.
<B787_300> not as good as the NMUSAF
<X_boson> And I don’t have to go to Seattle to see it
<B787_300> where else can you walk though planes that carried Presidents
<X_boson> There are webcams
<X_boson> I can walk through the concord
<X_boson> Which I assume carried a lot of rich people and presidents.
* UmbralRaptor wants to say Pima air museum?
<X_boson> Pima cotton!?
<B787_300> I dont Pima has walt though Air Force Ones
<UmbralRaptor> hrm
<B787_300> also in a couple years NMUSAF will get one of the VC 25s
<SilverFox> what if gravity is just space pressure
<UmbralRaptor> Something something Friedmann equation something Λ
<SilverFox> what if friction doesn't exist and its just a bunch of really small hands tryna clap
<SnoopJeDi> you're not supposed to drink the bong water, mate
<egg|cell|egg> W Hobbicie J.R.R. Tolkiena drugie śniadanie było jednym z sześciu posiłków, które dobrze odżywiony hobbit zjadał w ciągu dnia.
<SnoopJeDi> galois must be intimidated by non-English Wikipedia entries
<SilverFox> >"second" "petit jeuner"
<SilverFox> seems like frenchies are the ones needing to lay off the weed
<SnoopJeDi> "frenchies?" :|
<SilverFox> SnoopJeDi, you can't buy an unused mirror
<SilverFox> math is just spicy numbers
<UmbralRaptor> !8 will IAU resolution 2015 B3 solve my problems?
<galois> UmbralRaptor: no
<SilverFox> oof
<UmbralRaptor> ah, I also need B2
<UmbralRaptor> Also, it was slightly surprising to see an E. E. Mamajek as the lead author
<UmbralRaptor> Bolometers measure bolos, and barometers measure baros. change my mind
<SilverFox> what is a bolo
<SilverFox> 🅱olo
<B787_300> UmbralRaptor: what are those resolutions?
<UmbralRaptor> two weighted balls on a string that you can use as a throwing weapon. see eg: the ewoks in RotJ. Alternatively, a series of overpowered robotic tanks in a SF series by Ken Lamar
<SilverFox> isnt that an ebola
<whitequark> SilverFox: are you drunk or high or something
<SilverFox> why not both?
<UmbralRaptor> B787_300: various constants. B2 is 0 points for bolometric magnitudes (and makes the sun +4.74). B3 has a bunch of masses, radii, the solar constant, etc
<UmbralRaptor> (earth, sun, Jupiter… _
<B787_300> ah
<UmbralRaptor> s/_/)/
<galois> UmbralRaptor meant to say: (earth, sun, Jupiter… )
<UmbralRaptor> …Ken Laumer? Anyway, the stories by other authors in the same universe (eg: S M Stirling, David Webber, etc) are better
<SilverFox> imagine spending your career working on a field just to be the et al
* UmbralRaptor eyes 100+ LHC PhDs
<SilverFox> UmbralRaptor, what field are you in again?
<UmbralRaptor> Astronomy, specifically eggsoplanets
<SilverFox> neato
<UmbralRaptor> Mainly trying better simulations of radial velocity surveys, with a goal of making specific telescope and star suggestions. (Also if Earthfinder should be built)
<SilverFox> should it be built?
<UmbralRaptor> I'm probably doing something wrong with my calcs, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<UmbralRaptor> Related is how HabEx (assuming it gets selected) should do its survey. Do we want to target systems that are likely to have (interesting) planets, or avoid possible systematic biases?
<SilverFox> make the interns do the boring ones
<UmbralRaptor> (Though either way, we're going to be lucky if there are 50 stars in a 2 year primary mission)
* UmbralRaptor meows at iximeow's cat
<SilverFox> 50 stars housing possible earths, or just in general?
<UmbralRaptor> in general
<UmbralRaptor> If we know that they have possible <strike>venii</strike> earths, we're more likely to find life, etc
<UmbralRaptor> mofh: would I be a bad person if I replied to https://twitter.com/headfallsoff/status/1182447311378624512 with "COCKFOSTERS"
<kmath> <headfallsoff> my therapist: british town names aren't real. they cannot hurt you ⏎ ⏎ british town names: https://t.co/Vg4xQvuTOo
<SnoopJeDi> Is it weird that I hope we find not life, but atmospheres with signs of overindustrialization?
<UmbralRaptor> I do not like what that implies about the fermi paradox
<SnoopJeDi> Nor do I, but I find it plausible, and it would be a darned convenient thing to discover
<UmbralRaptor> Fair
<whitequark> bold of you to imply there's such a thing as too much industry
* whitequark offers to convert her body to grey good
<whitequark> *goo
<UmbralRaptor> Humans, pink goo, close enough
<SnoopJeDi> whitequark, my first choice was "post ecological collapse" but that felt weird because I want that to have a hyphen but it doesn't fit.
<SnoopJeDi> But I suppose you just summarized accelerationism, heh.
<iximeow> UmbralRaptor: she meows back
<iximeow> in fact i came home to a very offended 'meow' with the 'why did you leave??' implication
<UmbralRaptor> hah
<UmbralRaptor>
* UmbralRaptor 🔪 things
<UmbralRaptor> (the stars are wrong)
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<egg|work|egg> whitequark: !!!! godbolt has Ada now?!
<whitequark> huh
<egg|work|egg> oh wow and it's 2012, fancy
* egg|work|egg only ever used 95 and knows a bit about 2005
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<mofh> UmbralRaptor: no, please do :P
<UmbralRaptor> which thing, firing tardigrades at the moon?
<mofh> cockfosters :p
<mofh> but also my hot take is why not fire tardigrades at the moon, it's not like it's not obviously dead.
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<SnoopJeDi> mofh, planetary science counterpoint: life generally considered harmful
<UmbralRaptop> !wpn SnoopJeDi
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<SnoopJeDi> !wpn UmbralRaptop
* galois gives UmbralRaptop a citation
<SnoopJeDi> WOW
<UmbralRaptop> Yay, I've been cited!
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<kmath> <licia_verde> TRGB... toujours la France! https://t.co/kYUNwVUTd4
<SnoopJeDi> so uh, the person under that guillotine collaborates with one of my friends here...
<mofh> SnoopJeDi: on satellites suspected of harbouring or having once harboured life, sure.
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<SnoopJeDi> mofh, no I mean like introducing new life could harm non-life considerations
<SnoopJeDi> biological weathering processes and such (in the high-fantasy world where the life uh...takes root I guess)
<SnoopJeDi> I'm just being a contrarian though :)
<SnoopJeDi> And besides, we are at war with the Moon
<mofh> I thought the War of the Worlds was with Mars,,,,,
<SnoopJeDi> them too
<SnoopJeDi> I guess we're probably at war with Jupiter and Saturn, too
<SnoopJeDi> and Mercury for sure
<SnoopJeDi> Venus I think we're only at the "tampering" stage?
<SnoopJeDi> or maybe not, I don't know if we've slammed anything into it
<mofh> (speaking of which, have you ever heard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrbz0wiT28&fmt=18 ?)
<kmath> YouTube - Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds - Full Album
<SnoopJeDi> nope!
<SnoopJeDi> that sounds lovely though
<SnoopJeDi> mofh, for quite a long time, I was in the habit of putting on the Mercury Theatre radio broadcast every night as I drifted off to sleep
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: a table of celestial bodies and which countries have bombed them would be a fun blog post
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, you could corner the Space Warfare Journalism market!
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<kmath> <✔AP_Planner> Tomorrow: #WorldEggDay (11 Oct)
<UmbralRaptor> !logs
<UmbralRaptor> .logs
<egg> mofh: hmm
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, galois has a log (and so do I) but I don't have them hosted or anything. If you're looking for something particular, I can grep it for you
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: I, er, found wq's via ddg
<egg> !g "the only thing there is to life is triangles"
<egg> ;g "the only thing there is to life is triangles"
<egg> huh
<egg> !wpn
* galois gives egg a diamond
<egg> !wpn
* galois gives egg a deinonychus
* egg pokes mofh with the deinonychus
<egg> !wpn
* galois gives egg a mole