UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
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<UmbralRaptop> !choose try to figure out why Jekyll seems to have a new version that breaks everything | this is too much effort for a slightly grim joke blog post
<galois> UmbralRaptop: Your options: try to figure out why Jekyll seems to have a new version that breaks everything , this is too much effort for a slightly grim joke blog post . My choice: try to figure out why Jekyll seems to have a new version that breaks everything
<UmbralRaptop> simple static sites
* UmbralRaptop wonders if github can be made to serve handwritten html, since the only post-2000 features I might need are PNGs and some Unicode characters
<whitequark> sure
<whitequark> github pages
<whitequark> support that
<whitequark> you need to add .nojekyll or something
<UmbralRaptop> ooh
* egg|cell|egg meows at whitequark
<kmath> <angusferraro> There is a scale model of the solar system along the Taunton and Bridgwater canal. I live close to Neptune and toda… https://t.co/ysWEib0KZR
<kmath> <stephentyrone> @marc_b_reynolds The real numbers are an illusion of the illuminati, but I’m fairly comfortable with saying e exists.
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<UmbralRaptop> egg: ice giant jogging path?
<SilverFox> whitequark, where would be the best place to go about adding an ascii module?
<whitequark> ascii module?
<SilverFox> for the breadboard computer that is, and I'm curious how fonts will work out
<whitequark> a font?
<whitequark> it's usually a ROM
<SilverFox> so an interpreter of sorts
<SilverFox> and everything of type char/string gets put through it?
<SilverFox> I'm thinking of starting out having the output be one of those 2 line LCD displays
<SilverFox> rather than go straight to a vga monitor
<whitequark> oh i see
<whitequark> that's more of a lookup table
<whitequark> you can make one with a 256x8 ROM
<SilverFox> but I'm confused
<SilverFox> whats the lookup table gonna accomplish
<SilverFox> I need to sit down and map this stuff out
<SilverFox> also why is the first 3rd of ascii just a bunch of random stuff?
<SilverFox> like why does ascii have a BELL?
<SilverFox> ..is that the bell from typewriters?
<whitequark> yes
<whitequark> it used to ring a literal bell
<egg|cell|egg> It pings my IRC client too
<whitequark> oh I mean
<whitequark> it used to ring a bell like a bell shaped piece of metal
<egg|cell|egg> !py '\u0007'
<galois> egg|cell|egg: \u0007
<egg|cell|egg> !py '\x07'
<galois> egg|cell|egg: 
<egg|cell|egg> Yeah
<egg|cell|egg> !py '\x07 🔔'
<galois> egg|cell|egg:  🔔
<egg|cell|egg> Um.
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* UmbralRaptop blames fiora, somehow https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.05224
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<SilverFox> whitequark, k but why would you need an ascii character specifically to ring a bell
<SilverFox> that doesn't exist
<SilverFox> computers dont have bells that ding near end of line
<SnoopJeDi> Not anymore
<SilverFox> are you telling me they did?
<galois> [WIKIPEDIA] Teletype Model 33#/media/File:ASR-33 backside.jpg | "The Teletype Model 33 is an electromechanical teleprinter designed for light-duty office. It is less rugged and less expensive than earlier Teletype machines. The Teletype Corporation introduced the Model 33 as a commercial product in 1963 after being originally designed for the US Navy. There are three..."
<SnoopJeDi> The bell is in the middle of the assembly
<SnoopJeDi> (IOW, yes)
<SnoopJeDi> I don't know the history of the development of ASCII, but its predecessors had BELL control codes too, AFAIK
<SilverFox> is there a revised ascii with the bullshit taken out of it?
<SilverFox> also why is extended ascii a thing
<UmbralRaptop> No, and localization is hard, respectively
<SilverFox> ascii goes to 127 why? why are we using half a byte and not the full byte?
<UmbralRaptop> Because saving a bit or something made sense in the 1960s
<UmbralRaptop> 127 characters was luxurious compared to baudot codes
<SnoopJeDi> That does seem to be what the Wikipedia article's main source is claiming (also WOW what an impressive-looking book)
<SilverFox> 7-bit vs 8-bit isn't that big of a difference though
<SilverFox> and 1 bit gives you twice the available characters
<SnoopJeDi> Which they didn't need
<SnoopJeDi> and 12.5% is nothing to sniff at
<SnoopJeDi> it looks like the committee considered that for systems that sent a full byte, the 8th bit could be used for a parity check
<SilverFox> a parity bit? like if the bit wasn't a 1 or 0 they know the message has been tampered with?>
<galois> [WIKIPEDIA] Parity bit | "A parity bit, or check bit, is a bit added to a string of binary code to ensure that the total number of 1-bits in the string is even or odd. Parity bits are used as the simplest form of error detecting code.There are two variants of parity bits: even parity bit and odd parity bit.In the case of even..."
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<_whitenotifier-31f> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Je82t
<_whitenotifier-31f> [Principia] eggrobin 12bd3bc - Remove stray conjunction.
<egg> !py '\x07'
<galois> egg: 
<egg> !py '\x07'
<galois> egg: 
<egg> yup, pings my IRC client
<egg> have some pings
<SnoopJeDi> egg, huh, your client plays a bell when rendering it? Neat.
* UmbralRaptop 🔪 things
<UmbralRaptop> SnoopJeDi: I decided to take my joke seriously https://pdn4kd.github.io/space/travel,/silliness/2019/10/14/celestial_bombing.html
<SnoopJeDi> YESSSS
<UmbralRaptop> Incidentally, I didn't realize how many Soviet orbiters we don't know the fates of.
<UmbralRaptop> Like, they probably hit the lunar surface *somewhere* in the past 50 years…
<SnoopJeDi> I love it
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: > May have exploded before impact
<egg> <<< airburst!
<UmbralRaptor> heh
<egg> UmbralRaptor: > By mass, most life on earth is (land) planets
<egg> I think that's a typo?
<egg> or do you mean the mass of scale models of the solar systems
<UmbralRaptor> ?
<UmbralRaptor> egg: airport layover suggestion: IAD so you can visit Udvar
<UmbralRaptor> et
* UmbralRaptor 🔪 📱
<UmbralRaptor> Maybe plurality instead of majority?
<UmbralRaptor> Nah, from that paper, life on earth contains ~550 gigatonnes of carbon, and ~450 gigatonnes is in plants
<UmbralRaptor> oh
<UmbralRaptor> planets vs plants
<UmbralRaptor> >_<
<kmath> <R_P_one> Well, my sub layout lecture went well enough; spinny bit at the back, shooty bits at the front, pingy bits all arou… https://t.co/ht61CgsXFM
<SilverFox> whitequark, does the IRC protocol require a timestamp?
<SilverFox> if so, would that mean I need an RTC module before I can program up IRC stuff?
<whitequark> does not
<SilverFox> I wonder how hard an RTC module would be
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a nuclear fork
<SilverFox> do you reckon it would be relatively difficult?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj fast
<galois> Added adj 'fast'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj slow
<galois> Added adj 'slow'
<egg> !wpn
* galois gives egg a pick
<egg> !wpn -add:adj trotskyist
<galois> Added adj 'trotskyist'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn tank
<galois> Entry already exists!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn panzer
<galois> Added wpn 'panzer'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn panzerfaust
<galois> Added wpn 'panzerfaust'
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn scheme
<galois> Added wpn 'scheme'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn panzerschreck
<galois> Added wpn 'panzerschreck'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn bazooka
<galois> Added wpn 'bazooka'
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn space
<galois> Added wpn 'space'
<UmbralRaptor> <_< >_>
<egg> !wpn -add:adj projective
<galois> Added adj 'projective'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn projectile
<galois> Added wpn 'projectile'
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn variety
<galois> Added wpn 'variety'
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn manifold
<galois> Added wpn 'manifold'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj differentiable
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj smooth
<galois> Added adj 'smooth'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj connected
<galois> Entry already exists!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj rough
<galois> Added adj 'rough'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj continuous
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj regular
<galois> Added adj 'regular'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj polished
<galois> Added adj 'polished'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj blunt
<galois> Added adj 'blunt'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj sharp
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn ultrafilter
<galois> Added wpn 'ultrafilter'
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj stabby
<galois> Added adj 'stabby'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj compact
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj quasi-compact
<galois> Added adj 'quasi-compact'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj semiregular
<galois> Added adj 'semiregular'
<egg> !wpn -add:adj variable
<galois> Added adj 'variable'
<egg> !wpn -add:wpn star
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg> !wpn -add:adj quasiregular
<galois> Added adj 'quasiregular'
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* galois gives UmbralRaptor a convolutional eggscuse
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a recursive chemical conifer
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
* galois gives egg a Poinsot theoretical kinase
<egg> !wpn mofh
* galois gives mofh a safe thulium pastie with an oxide attachment