00:16 <TheKosmonaut> Greys: depending on when the images came out, there are varying designs. The BFR is different from last year’s ITS, the BFR is like 50-60% smaller

00:51 <Greys> I refuse a big fucking rocket that's smaller than previous rockets

00:51 <Greys> Elon: go home, try again

00:52 <TheKosmonaut> It’s still the biggest rocket ever if it flies

00:57 <Greys> that's not now bullshit science works, it has to be the biggest rocket anybody tried to build

05:56 <TheKosmonaut> I don't understand what you're trying to say.

09:54 <N3X15> imagine loosing a wrench in the maze of pipes feeding those fucking engines

09:54 <N3X15> losing, too

10:23 <TheKosmonaut> N3X15: see, the N-1 program lol.

10:24 <TheKosmonaut> Plumbing too complicated for its own good

19:20 <Greys> ;wa radius of the earth

19:20 <kmath> Greys: Earth->average radius: 6371.008 km (kilometers)

19:26 <Greys> ;wa radius of the earth in meters

19:26 <kmath> Greys: convert Earth->average radius to meters: 6.371008×10^6 meters

19:26 <Greys> I hate scientific notation, it ruins all computers

19:27 <r4m0n> it's 6371008m, is it that hard to move the decimal point around? :-P

19:27 <Greys> sometimes

19:32 <Greys> here's the thing though; if you're not good at scientific notations, no computer is capable of helping you, because every fucking language refuses to not display large or small values normally

19:32 <Greys> -not

19:36 <Greys> I think I've discovered a hard limit in CATIA's concept of size

19:38 <Greys> https://i.imgur.com/GGEO4uq.png

19:45 <r4m0n> oh god

19:46 <r4m0n> you probably need to unlock the galactic engineering module for that

19:46 <Greys> I just neet atmospheric scale

19:50 <Greys> ;wa height of mount everest above sea level in meters

19:50 <kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

19:50 <Greys> ;wa height of mount everest in meters

19:50 <kmath> Greys: convert Mount Everest->elevation to meters: 8848 meters

19:54 <Greys> this is graphically unuseable

19:56 <Greys> https://i.imgur.com/b9RbD9A.png

19:56 <Greys> the H ray is dangent to the circle representing the earth's surface

19:56 <Greys> the lower horizontalish green line is that circle

19:58 <Greys> functionally this operates correctly, but apparently the render chain can't handle accurate arcs of this size at this zoom

19:58 <Greys> so I can't display the range of necessary values

20:24 <Greys> this might work in inkscape, but it's going to be the holy handgrenade of pains in the ass

20:25 <Greys> oh... and I won't be able to derrive information from it, fuck

20:28 <Greys> amazingly, "SketchFlat", that nobody ever has heard of, seems to be willing to make this happen

20:29 <Greys> it's a 2D parametric vector graphics suite, but with all the consideration for users taken out

20:29 <Greys> ;wa altitude of detroit

20:29 <kmath> Greys: Detroit, Michigan->elevation: 183 meters

20:36 <Greys> and then... nope

20:36 <Greys> it's maybe three magnetudes more accurate than catia, but it's still wrong

21:14 <Greys> ;wa angle of an arch with length 100km

21:14 <kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

21:15 <Greys> nope, that's not enough

21:15 <Greys> ;wa angle of an arch with length 100km and radius 6371km

21:15 <kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

21:36 <Greys> so, assuming a fair degree of inaccuracy, the highest clouds, when they are 15 degrees above the horizon, are 50km away

21:38 <Greys> at 5 degrees they're like 130km away, at like 2 degrees they're about 300km out

21:38 <Greys> that's in land distance not straight line distance

21:39 <Greys> at 5 degrees, the ISS is above a point which is just under 700km away

22:23 <Greys> ;wa altitude of germany

22:24 <kmath> Greys: Germany->highest elevation: 2963 meters (world rank: 70th)

22:24 <Greys> ;wa average altitude of germany

22:24 <kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

22:24 <Greys> ;wa altitude of lipstadd, germany

22:24 <kmath> Greys: Lippstadt, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany->elevation: 76 meters