r4m0n changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Technical discussion ONLY (KSP related or not), for random shit-talking, join #shitshow (seriously)
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<SilverFox> so like, how hard is it to program optical recognition of a thing? like lets say finding those brake lights on the back of a car in front of you?
<SilverFox> Greys, no I didn't break foxbot's tell
<SilverFox> ~tell Greys this should still be working
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: Will do!~
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<SilverFox> I wonder how cheap I can get a 720p or 1080p webcam for doing image recognition on
<SilverFox> ~c 640 * 480
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 307200.0
<SilverFox> so 480p is 0.3MP
<SilverFox> ~c 1080 * 720
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 777600.0
<SilverFox> ~c 1280 * 720
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 921600.0
<SilverFox> almost 1MP
<SilverFox> ~c 1920 * 1080
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 2073600.0
<SilverFox> 2MP
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<SilverFox> ~wa 254" to m
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: convert 254 inches to meters: 6.452 meters
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<SilverFox> I need an arduino sensor that can sense up to like, 15-25m away that isn't going to get washed out by bright light
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<SilverFox> this apparently, but it's 120USD each, which sucks
<SilverFox> ~wa 120USD to CAD (nocache)
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: convert $120 (US dollars) to Canadian dollars: C$153.59 (Canadian dollars)
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<Greys> google should have alphago play the trolley problem
<FoxBot9000> Greys: Thu Dec 07 03:16:22 UTC 2017 <SilverFox>: this should still be working
<Greys> still doesn't work, guess it was always broken
<Greys> wait, I had a great idea for a flash game
<SilverFox> the fuck you mean it doesn't work
<Greys> every round you're presented with a graphic of the trolly Y with a trolley travelling down the line; it'll always go down the bottom track without intervention and different trolley graphics travel at different speeds; then what's stuck on each track varies and you have to decide to click or not click before the trolley passes the switch
<Greys> SilverFox, in PMs
<Greys> then the results of each round are collated on a server and used to build a relational heirarchy of what's worth saving over what
<Greys> everybody picks 1 baby over 11 people, but 12 people over 1 baby, so 1 baby = 11.5 people
<Greys> GlassYuri, make it
<Greys> html5 games are javascript right?
<GlassYuri> yeah
<Greys> were we talking about something a few days ago?
<GlassYuri> base64?
<Greys> guess not then
<GlassYuri> I asked about if you have an opinion on kabaneri of the iron fortress and got a non-answer
<Greys> are you aware of the sort of religions dictatorship this channel has become?
<GlassYuri> I cannot decipher meaning from that sentence which probably means "no"
<Greys> does javascript have some way to define curves and then animate a graphic along a curve
<Greys> kosmo will kill anyone who doesn't dislike that genre of media
<GlassYuri> most likely yes
<GlassYuri> with every wannabe web dev using javascript it is an unfortunate reality that you will find a javascript lib for everything regardless of how well suited js is for the task
<GlassYuri> yay 100% cpu, typing lags
<GlassYuri> Greys, hey who's at a bigger risk of being killed by kosomo here
<Truga> the only solution to the trolley problem is multitrack drifting
<GlassYuri> Truga, depending on the distance of the people to the switch, derailing might be a valid option
<Truga> true
<GlassYuri> althought that also depends on the number of people inside and the crashworthyness of the rolling stock
<Greys> how can you depict a cartoon train rolling over arbitrary sets of "peoploids" such as babies, old people, black people, millenials, different kinds of pets, wild animals, robot people ranging from R2D2 to Bicentential Man, and so on; without it being grotesque
<GlassYuri> Greys, incidentally kabaneri is an anime about running trains through zombie hordes
<Greys> the trolly problem relies on the trolley being unable to act on it's own
<Greys> either they can't see the problem, they're unable to stop fast enough, of there's some mechanical issue; whatever it is the trolley is a "force of nature" in the conundrum and the only actionable component is you either flipping the lever or not flipping the lever
<Greys> or*
<Greys> are you capable of derailing a trolley using only a manually poperated rail switch?
<GlassYuri> likely brake failure or, if in a place where basic work safety standards are unknown, human error
<Greys> operated*
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<GlassYuri> Greys, send the first axle or bogie in a different direction that the rear one
<Greys> should that be modelled in the game?
<GlassYuri> if you are willing to go those extra steps
<GlassYuri> but then why not also add an option to distract the people on the track from their impending death or so
<Greys> probably not at first; but it can't be a fix-all
<Greys> would derailing a trolley in that way likely result in harm to the passengers?
<Greys> you're too far from the people on the track, they're out of ear-shot; the trolley is going too fast for you to warn them in time
<GlassYuri> depends on speed, construction of the thing, whether it catches fire, position of the passengers in the train, dumb luck, if it rolls over or not, what you ate for breakfast
<GlassYuri> are we assuming an old style wooden car body electric train here?
<Greys> so if there's 15 people on the trolley and there's unknown probabilitythat derailing it might kill them all; 11 people of assorted race and gender on the lower track, and 1 female caucasion baby on the top rail; are you willing to derail it
<Greys> the actual trolley will vary from antiques to moderns to runaway train cars to actual full trains of various construction
<GlassYuri> if there is a chance that it rolls over, slides along sideways covering both branches and kills everyone, yes
<Greys> given that the people on both sections of track are too far you to contact, I think they're far enough to ignore that possibility
<TheKosmonaut> I wont kill people that like anime.
<Greys> but, you could kill everybody on the train by derailing it; and will kill whatever group you direct the train to
<TheKosmonaut> I just dislike the type of person that loves anime and manga to the point of it just being revolting
<TheKosmonaut> Just the same way I dislike people that watch sports entirely too much
<Greys> TheKosmonaut, you have stated that people who like anime should be killed, verbatim
<TheKosmonaut> K
<GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, I like anime to the point that the only time I watched anime this year was on a plane with nothing else to do
<TheKosmonaut> I am pretty sure I called it kawaiicaust
<TheKosmonaut> Which should be taken as seriously as it sounds
<TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: my like of such things has declined greatly since moving here.
<Greys> you're a dangerous violent person, everything you do has to be taken seriously; an no that was a different thing
<TheKosmonaut> Greys: yes. Im dangerous and violent
<TheKosmonaut> Indeed
<GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, also apparently there is a famous animation black kigyou near me
<TheKosmonaut> Just the other day, I beat a boy because he had a one piece style mugiwara boshi
<TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: ghibli?
<TheKosmonaut> lol
<GlassYuri> a-1
<GlassYuri> ghibli is in mitaka, right?
<TheKosmonaut> Think so
<Greys> I'm just trying to talk about a crowdsourced trolley problem heirarchical analysis
<TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: I have had this same cop ask for my zairyu like 3 times now
<GlassYuri> Greys, have you thought of the possibility that your results might become skewed by the fact that the only people playing past the initial curiosity will be psychopaths?
<TheKosmonaut> I straight up said he was harassing me in front of the police box
<GlassYuri> lol
<Greys> yep
<Greys> also bots
<Greys> bots are going to fuck this data up the ass; but it's a game, so if the results aren't useable, whatever
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<GlassYuri> anyone who writes a bot for that is definitely a psychopath
<TheKosmonaut> Probably likes anime too
<SilverFox> lul
<Greys> at this point you can't assume that the bots aren't writing themselves
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<GlassYuri> Greys, at this point you can't assume that machine learning doesn't lead to artificial psychopaths
<Greys> have you been dipping into the less wrong cultosphere?
<GlassYuri> well I have friends? they're all game illustration studends and speak mandaring so that I have no idea what they're saying though
<GlassYuri> *mandarin
<SilverFox> so fucking learn the shitty sounding language
<GlassYuri> I'm fucking trying but man
<SilverFox> you dont even need to read it
<GlassYuri> I mean okay having motivation issues doesn't count as trying but
<GlassYuri> it's fucking easier to read than listen though
<Greys> my other german weeaboo friend has gotten obcessed with obscure hypercomplex kanji
<SilverFox> has gotten what?
<GlassYuri> that looks like a fucking parody
<TheKosmonaut> Seems like an appropriate character for “rocky mountains”
<GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, hey btw how do I fucking verify my age on line so that I can add someone by id?
<Greys> also apparently there's like 30 kanji that IBM just fuckin invented in hte 70s
<TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: uh. I think you have to register on whatever provider’s site
<GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, well I have some mvno sim that a friend gave me once
<GlassYuri> Greys, that first kanji looks like it's just a normal one with strokes repeated ludicrously instead of being actually made out of lots of components
<TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: Usually when it tells you to verify you just follow whatever link they gave you
<GlassYuri> they give me two links both of which require some login info
<GlassYuri> I should probably ask the north korean spy who gave me the sim card
<GlassYuri> my RAM's full
<SilverFox> holy fuck dude what are you doing?
<GlassYuri> photogrammetry
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<Greys> ;wa ((72 inch circumfrence to radius) + .1735 inch) to circumfrence
<kmath> Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<Greys> 72.09; that seems like a perfect amount of tension
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<Greys> SilverFox, do you have a preferred clandestine cryptominer blocker thing
<Greys> ;wa diagonal of a 42.3mm square
<kmath> Greys: diagonalize->a×42.3 (mm (millimeter))^2: ((not diagonalizable)) 42.3 mm^2 (millimeters squared)
<SilverFox> you're gonna need to stop trying to sound smart there
<Greys> SilverFox, a shitload of websites now have javascript miners
<Greys> pick one
<Greys> a few weeks ago Linus said on the wan show it's like 30 thousand websites
<Greys> so do you have a thing that blocks them that you like
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<SilverFox> no
<ve2dmn> Which Linus?
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<SilverFox> LTT
<Greys> how many linuses are there?
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<SilverFox> more than one
<ve2dmn> ^
<Greys> there's LTT, there's the dick bung that invented ubuntu, there's the one on charlie brown
<Greys> pretty sure only one of those has a show
<SilverFox> oh look, more than one linus, I was right
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<Greys> the question wasn't is there more than one linus
<Greys> the question was how many linuses are there
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<SilverFox> and I answered it
<Greys> so you're wrong due to lack of specificity go touch your dick in private
<SilverFox> you're wrong of accusing me wrong because fuck you I'm right
<SilverFox> there is in fact, more than one linus
<Greys> you failed to provide a suitable answer to the question
<SilverFox> I provided a well suitable answer
<Greys> this is why shitshow died, you're a useless hunk of flesh colored garbage
<SilverFox> shitshow died because we were tired of your autism
<SilverFox> tbh
<Greys> you have never used that word correctly; and you work in the medical profession.
<Greys> you should be ashamed
<SilverFox> cool dude, keep trying
<Greys> I left explicitly because you decided that accusing me of "autism" was going to be the only way we interacted
<SilverFox> and you going on 40 minute tangeants about shit I already know but you think I don't because I got a thing semantically wrong was the only way we interacted, so fuck it
<SilverFox> really don't care
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<Greys> creeper tip: if you go to a sprint store, every display phone is live and has phone service, you can totally make calls from them as much as you want until they make you leave
<SilverFox> you could also then text from them eh?
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