r4m0n changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Technical discussion ONLY (KSP related or not), for random shit-talking, join #shitshow (seriously)
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<Djohaal>
SilverFox, the patient is catatonic, exhibiting waxy flexibility
<SilverFox>
Catatonic is a state of being, rather than the diagnosis. an example is like uhh, Cerebral Palsy, Cystic Fibrosis, Cardiomyopathy, that kind of thing
<SilverFox>
waxy flexibility sounds like rickets
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<G-Mobile>
The patient is the color of doritos and their whole skin is powdery
<Djohaal>
G-Mobile, I'd call an exorcist
<SilverFox>
G-Mobile, patient is a dorito, solved.
<Greys>
somebody should make a slightly transparent skirt that looks like mosaic sensor
<Greys>
censor
<Greys>
SilverFox, nope, go more occam
<SilverFox>
which doritos?
<Greys>
arctic ranch
<SilverFox>
also powdery skin sounds like it's flaking off, like skin shedding
<Greys>
I'm too not awake for this
<Greys>
they're covered in doritos
<SilverFox>
don't waste my time with people covered in doritos
<Greys>
but they're acrtosa bliznitch flavored
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<Greys>
SilverFox, patient comes in complaining of haven eaten a live mouse whole
<Greys>
they are visibly intoxicated
<SilverFox>
first off, that isn't complaining, that's bragging and totally normal and rather impressive
<SilverFox>
give em high five send em home
<Greys>
they're suffering pain in their gut
<SilverFox>
probably from the mouse
<SilverFox>
pain will subside when the mouse dies
<SilverFox>
go the fuck home
<Greys>
mice can dig through concrete
<SilverFox>
yeah it's probably digging through his stomach
<SilverFox>
hand out a darwin aware
<SilverFox>
award*
<Greys>
how do you save him
<SilverFox>
no meds will fix it
<SilverFox>
he'd have to either 1) die, or 2) have surgery
<TheKosmonaut>
Greys: is your patient you or rokker (Doritos)
<Greys>
I haven't had doritos since middleschool
<SilverFox>
yay for useless information
<TheKosmonaut>
SilverFox: do you get lots of kids with noro incanada?
<SilverFox>
noro?
<Greys>
noro incanada or norovirus in canada
<TheKosmonaut>
“Norovirus”
<Greys>
noro incanada sounds like a fun disease
<SilverFox>
shit's contagious wow
<SilverFox>
about 300-400 outbreaks are reported every year in canada
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<TheKosmonaut>
SilverFox: I call it shittybaby virus
<TheKosmonaut>
Because people don’t properly clean their kids hands
<SilverFox>
well yup, it's contact spreading
<TheKosmonaut>
This is why I don’t let my kid fucking play with gross looking kids
<SilverFox>
a person infected would be put in isolation with contact precautions at least
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<Greys>
TheKosmonaut why are japanese people so good at drawing butts when they dont have any?
<TheKosmonaut>
Your sample of Japanese people is from where
<Greys>
japan
<TheKosmonaut>
Lol no.
<SilverFox>
Greys, have you forgot that other people exist?
<TheKosmonaut>
Your sample is from your media
<TheKosmonaut>
Which is like me saying “why do all Americans love guns and flags so much?” Because I watch duck dynasty
<SilverFox>
it's not like their only source of image is from japan, there exists other media
<Greys>
eh.... I think that'd be a fairly legitimate question actually
<Greys>
liking guns and liking flags is not a small thing in america
<SilverFox>
holy fuck
<Greys>
we've had deadly riots and shit over liking guns and flags
<TheKosmonaut>
That’s got nothing to do with it. In fact, that there are riots and opposition reinforces my point, which was that while your racist assumption about Japanese bodies is completely devoid of a factual basis, my fake assertion that all Americans love guns and flags isn’t factual either
<SilverFox>
get rekt racist american
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<G-Mobile>
Comcast is injecting javascript into all unsecure pages
<G-Mobile>
Why isnt moving to https whenever possible a browser feature, why isnt it industry standard that insecure pages contain a metadata tag designating how to get to the secure version?
<G-Mobile>
Google is already biasing search ranks against insecure pages, proliferation of the little lock symbol is pretty good, and the secure page doesn't need to contain that tag so the miniscule increase in bandwidth would be self diminishing
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<ve2dmn>
G-Mobile: It takes less time and people don't notice the difference
<ve2dmn>
Also, people are cheap. My boss prefer that I spend 40+h making sure letsencrypt works with our Ansible-based setup rather then paying 250 CAD for a *.domain.com cert
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<Greys>
you sure you need a *.domain.com cert?
<ve2dmn>
Greys: I don't want to buy 250 certs
<Greys>
but even then, I would argue that there exist websites where it's unnecessary and prohibitively expensive; but there's loads of websites out there that operate in HTTP and HTTPS, where there's no good reason to ever be on the HTTP version except that by chance you've arrived at it
<Greys>
imgur is like that, by default it's not secure, but it can be
<Greys>
why don't the browsers figure it out automatically and make sure you're never on HTTP when you could be on HTTPS
<ve2dmn>
"It takes less time and people don't notice the difference"
<Greys>
it's the server's obligation to provide the best experience, and it's the client's obligation to assume the server has failed, then try to recover
<Greys>
the people don't matter, peoples are lazy fucks
<Greys>
I'm going to yes; however at work I use safari, and safari can't support their functionality; it's in the faq
<Greys>
we build cars that are better at making people survive crashes because people are too lazy to not bring vehicles into contact at high velocity
<ve2dmn>
The insentive to do a better job is currently not there
<Greys>
.... yep
<Greys>
that's why firefox and chrome are insufferable and getting worse
<Greys>
you have captured this better than I've ever seen
<ve2dmn>
Well, I like to think in terms of social psychology, economic insentive or behavioral economics.
<ve2dmn>
(even if it's not my field)
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<ve2dmn>
Sometimes it's depressing
<Greys>
all this, and there are people who believe that in the future there will be an AI that will torture them then for not acting now to create the AI
<ve2dmn>
It will most likely be the paperclip issue more then a true AI
<ve2dmn>
(true evil AI)
<Greys>
this isn't even that (* throws a potted plant), it's smart people popularity crack
<ve2dmn>
smart people, who's expertise isn't in AO
<ve2dmn>
AI*
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<Greys>
are you familiar with elibizer wudosky; or however you spell the cult leader's name, and roko's basallisk
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<ve2dmn>
Doesn't ring a bell
<Greys>
do you enjoy terrible things and terrible people
<ve2dmn>
no
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<Greys>
mmkay, so dear cult leader is a self proclaimed AI researcher who "invented" a bunch of "bullshit" like the turing test except bad and the practical concern that AI research cannot be made safe; he started a website, less wrong, where he convinces other supposedly smart people that he is smart, and thereby they are smart for thinking he is smart
<Greys>
that's the short version
<Greys>
one of the cultists then posted on the website at one point that they had thought the thought that an AI may someday exist which will torture them in the future for their actions now because the AI knowing that they in the past thought about teh AI existing and torturing them would know that the threat of future torture will steer past action
<Greys>
this, is roko's basallisk
<Greys>
it makes no god damn sense and is considered an unspeakable horror among the cultists because ebblewonker deleted the post rapidly, thus declaring "dear cult leader thinks this is true"
<ve2dmn>
Why would that AI even concern itself with what we think?
<Greys>
because we could have created it sooner
<ve2dmn>
If that Super-AI is capable of toture, it probably has no moral simply killing everyone once it has no uses for them
<Greys>
I'm incapable of defending the logic; it would be wrong to call it flawed for there exists no part of it which is not flaw; it is a perfectly formed crystal of simply wrong
<ve2dmn>
It would also probably find it MUCH easier to manipulate us into killing ourselves (since he is technically immortal and can wait out a civilization collapse)