r4m0n changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Technical discussion ONLY (KSP related or not), for random shit-talking, join #shitshow (seriously)
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<SilverFox>
I wonder how possible it is to simulate a PCIe x1 lane with a raspi or arduino or something
<SilverFox>
like, obviously not 4k gaming 120hz
<SilverFox>
but, does it work, period
<r4m0n>
I believe the minimum link speed for PCIe 1.0 is probably something like 2 orders of magnitude higher than the max GPIO speed of the RasPi
<SilverFox>
right, but why is there a minimum speed?
<r4m0n>
it can probably bitbang USB 1.0 low speed, but that's about it
<SilverFox>
What about jury-rigging a PCIe to USB 2.0 thing?
<r4m0n>
there ARE USB-PCIe adapters AFAIK
<SilverFox>
I don't think I've found one
<SilverFox>
I've looked before
<SilverFox>
the USB cables that are attached to the mining risers are apparently not properly implemented, since it's supposed to go from riser to PCIe card or some shit
<SilverFox>
found this for the same price as a raspi 3+
<SilverFox>
2GB of LPDDR3 ram at 1600Mhz and a USB 3.0 hub
<SilverFox>
although it consumes 15W
<r4m0n>
I have one of their "notebooks". came with a bad keyboard, though :-/
<SilverFox>
rip
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<Orum>
I don't know what's worse, specifications that are written in such legalese as to make them completely incomprehensible, or those that are so vague you have to guess at the behavior of various implementations
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<SilverFox>
there is a leak for the GTX 1180
<SilverFox>
I'm excited to see how well it performs
<r4m0n>
there was a "leak" on april's fool, is this new?
<SilverFox>
fair
<SilverFox>
didnt realize the date on it
<r4m0n>
the paper specs say something like 50% increase on the 1080
<r4m0n>
and that's over the 1080, the 1080 Ti is of course closer
<SilverFox>
right, and the titan closer than that
<r4m0n>
yes, I'm reading the data from there
<r4m0n>
think I'll wait for the 1180 Ti before ditching my 980 Ti
<SilverFox>
Im curious to see how my 1060 will stack up
<SilverFox>
my 1060 of course still does rather well, but upgrades for my VR experience are always welcome, since I'm nudging lower end
<r4m0n>
a 1060 6GB is about as good as my 980 Ti
<SilverFox>
ya sure?
<SilverFox>
thought 970 was equivalent
<SilverFox>
except for the extra 2.5GB of VRAM
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<r4m0n>
it outperforms it a bit on ETH mining, overclocked. mostly dure to memory speed
<r4m0n>
overall, they are pretty close
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<SilverFox>
interesting
<r4m0n>
I run the 980 Ti as my main GPU and passthrough a 1060 to a W10 VM
<SilverFox>
However, I want to get some good peripherals before I really upgrade components, since I'm at this awkward point in my component specs where I could upgrade, but the money to upgrade is prohibitive
<SilverFox>
your machine runs two GPUS?
<r4m0n>
big machine XD
<SilverFox>
nice
<SilverFox>
I prefer smaller ones
<r4m0n>
Ryzen 1800X, 4GHz OC, 64GB RAM
<SilverFox>
I like having ballin shit in like, the formfactor of a xbox one
<r4m0n>
built it about 1 year ago
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<SilverFox>
my pc right now is a cube
<SilverFox>
looking to get one of those SFX mini things, whatever they're called
<r4m0n>
anyway, I'd hold onto the 1060 for a while more, unless you start to really feel the pressure. mine can handle VR decently enough even on a VM
<SilverFox>
yeah, like I said, mine is just fine for gaming and VR work, I'd prefer a 1070 but meh
<SilverFox>
I'm at the awkward stage where I could upgrade, but the upgrades aren't particularly worth the money right now
<r4m0n>
the 1060 has more OC headroom, if you aren't overclocking it, I'd recommend giving it a try
<r4m0n>
should perform pretty close to a stock 1070
<SilverFox>
I am, but it's also a mini 1060
<SilverFox>
and it def reaches thermal throttle during VR
<r4m0n>
yeah, it can get quite hot
<SilverFox>
I smell smelly things when I get close to the case
<SilverFox>
although that's probably the cables, since cable management is shit in such a tight space
<r4m0n>
if you don't have particularly good airflow, it WILL cook your whole machine. those little cards are great heating elements
<SilverFox>
indeed
<SilverFox>
although that side of the cube is fine
<SilverFox>
the 1180 is rumored to have a larger die size, which kinda sucks for my hopes of a mini
<SilverFox>
and the 8-16GB of VRAM number throws me off
<r4m0n>
just 1/3 larger, it shouldn't change the card size considerably
<SilverFox>
i wonder if there's a 1080ti mini
<SilverFox>
nope not really, but the lowest price 1080ti is 1,243$
<SilverFox>
~wa 1243$ to USD (nocache)
<FoxBot9000>
SilverFox: convert C$1243 (Canadian dollars) to US dollars: $974.07 (US dollars)
<SilverFox>
although, I wonder what GPU pricing on amazon is like, if it's any better than newegg
<r4m0n>
can go either way I think
<SilverFox>
4mm is not a lot of playroom for airflow
<SilverFox>
~wa 975USD to CAD (nocache)
<FoxBot9000>
SilverFox: convert $975 (US dollars) to Canadian dollars: C$1244.18 (Canadian dollars)
<SilverFox>
same price, though idk if amazon charges taxes or not
<SilverFox>
actually, I could prime it for 1,089.99
<SilverFox>
and it can't be shipped to canada, so rip
<SilverFox>
the thing with the 1060 though is you can't really change the voltages to it, which sucks for me cause I like undervolting to save on power consumption
<r4m0n>
you can change the power limit, though
<SilverFox>
yeahh
<SilverFox>
also newegg sells an 8GB vram variant of a 1060
<r4m0n>
that's an odd one
<SilverFox>
indeed
<SilverFox>
dunno if it's legit or what
<r4m0n>
it's out of the main specs, but it should be doable with a custom board
<SilverFox>
amazon doesn't charge me taxes based on my province, but newegg does, so certain things are better from amazon.com than newegg, but amazon.com has import duties
<SilverFox>
amazon.com gives me a 1060 6GB mini from EVGA for 361.10, compared to the grand total of 476.84$ for a zotac mini
<SilverFox>
~wa 361.10USD to CAD (nocache)
<SilverFox>
??
<SilverFox>
;wa 361.10USD to CAD
<kmath>
SilverFox: convert $361.10 (US dollars) to Canadian dollars: C$460.79 (Canadian dollars)
<SilverFox>
so I save 10$ from going through amazon compared to newegg