12:52 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ ⟪paculino⟫ Do you have that mod that aims to […] ⮪ "tutorial : how to transform your cpu into a thermonuclear warhead"

18:07 <queqiao-> ⟨twistedgiraffe⟩ ⟪paculino⟫ Do you have that mod that aims to […] ⮪ The closest mod I ever heard of is to randomly destroy one part of your spacecraft based on how many debris you have in space.

19:29 <raptop> hrm, principia can't really do this, right? https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.11870

19:33 <queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ "on timescales less than 5~Gyr" 🤣

19:33 <queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/sSQzZaFYCIVDfRltPaMXWfwT/IMG_20230623_203224.jpg

19:33 <queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Trapped

19:44 <queqiao-> ⟨_itsryan⟩ https://www.whompcomic.com/comic/just-sit-idly-die

19:48 <raptop> cat

21:37 <queqiao-> ⟨twistedgiraffe⟩ ⟪raptop⟫ hrm, principia can't really do this, […] ⮪ Principia can simulate the non-relativistic precession of Mercury. Can't see a reason why it can't simulate that if you have a _good_ computer 😏

22:01 <raptop> I'd have to double check on the compute requirements of those diffusion methods

23:02 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ I've installed principia but it breaks time acceleration

23:03 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ In that it tells me i can't time accelerate while the vessel is undergoing acceleration

23:04 <queqiao-> ⟨twistedgiraffe⟩ Are you... landed?

23:04 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ i'm above the karman line

23:05 <queqiao-> ⟨twistedgiraffe⟩ Hover over your craft in the map view and see the situation. It may be a KSP bug.

23:18 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Did anyone tried fast forward like billions of years with the principia solar system model to see if any catastrophic or crazy changes happen?

23:19 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Like idk, the moon just flying away xP

23:20 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Or like you said mercury hitting Venus or something xP

23:34 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/oyLxZURauresiSQPnTODXYEG/image.png

23:34 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ i can't go to the tracking center because it's a simulation

23:35 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ curiously, only happens if i decouple the first stage?

23:41 <queqiao-> ⟨clayel⟩ ⟪jfinizolas⟫ Did anyone tried fast forward like […] ⮪ i think even with better time warp warping forward a billion years would take atleast a real life year

23:42 <queqiao-> ⟨clayel⟩ although maybe you could just set your time to a billion years, but ksp would probably break by then

23:43 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ no I think principia needs you to step forward sequentially

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ You can probably do the same math off ksp to optimize it

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ And just integrate one quadrillion steps xP

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ...there seems to be a lot of, well, uninformed speculation going on here...

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ The first thing you'd probably run out of doing that is either memory or storage

23:44 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Indeed I have no idea what I’m talking about :V

23:45 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Do you need to store your previous steps?

23:45 <queqiao-> ⟨sleepysaf⟩ you can't just step forward ksp patched conics a billion years and then switch over because nothing will change over that billion years

23:45 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Why?

23:45 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ (Please observe Rule #5)

23:45 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ I have a genuine question

23:46 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ That’s all

23:47 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ The first thing you'd probably run out […] ⮪ But why would you need to story every single step you took? Isn’t all you need to know the recent state of the system?

23:47 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ I guess that’s down to how one integrates

23:48 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ In my brain I just think about a “linear integration system”

23:48 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ There is a large difference between 'what's theoretically possible' and 'what Principia, an integrator designed for a particular use-case, implements'.

23:48 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Uhumm

23:48 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ As far as KSP is concerned, the player needs to see the history of the vessel, so of course that is stored. If you might recall the formerly long-standing issue #2400, storage of the trajectory is in fact a very large .

23:49 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Yeah my question was going to a more theoretical side that didn’t think about ksp limitations

23:50 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ...and, hence, becomes irrelevant to #principia.

23:51 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ But shouldn’t the math be the same?

23:52 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Like Euler integration is the same anywhere

23:52 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Idfk guess I will shut up

23:54 <raptop> Yes, though you will get Newton, Dedlambre, Størmer, and Verlet leapfrogging around you

23:55 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ Like Euler integration is the same […] ⮪ That’s an example I know principia doesn’t use Euler integration

23:55 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ No need to “facepalm” me

23:55 <queqiao-> ⟨jfinizolas⟩ I’m just someone that has practically zero knowledge on numerical integration with questions

23:57 <raptop> Clearly there's a need for a channel with egg's ~~wrath~~ lecture notes on numeric integration

23:59 <queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ _egg is typing_