20:09 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> Hey, this is the first time I am trying Principia; I read the wiki a few times, downloaded the latest folder, and put it in Game Data. But I get the instant crash when I try to start a new save. I am on Windows and trying to find the log. Any suggestions?

20:10 <queqiao--> <k​uz​in​at​0r​> You should download the latest release, not the folder

20:11 <queqiao--> Reply to "k​uz​in​at​0r​: You should download the latest release, not the folder"

20:11 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> Isn't that Google Drive Folder "principia خوارزمی‎ for 1.12.5.zip"?

20:15 <raptop> sounds correct there. To ask a silly question, was it unzipped under GameData?

20:17 <queqiao--> Reply to "r​ap​to​p: sounds correct there. To ask a silly question, was it unzipped under GameData?"

20:17 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> It is like this. It's not zipped, but DoI needs to take x64 out into the Principia Main folder? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/480397772248580098/1351288331627135087/image.png?ex=67d9d4d3&is=67d88353&hm=45f719d312ba16fa837eda3ca72f55362692df2261bd77489dd46bc14a8421c7&

20:19 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> Also, does it have any dependencies?

20:23 <raptop> There are dependencies that you may need to also install, though those shouldn't cause a crash: https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Installing,-reporting-bugs,-and-frequently-asked-questions#Troubleshooting

20:26 <raptop> as setup, the folders look okay?

20:34 <queqiao--> <s​ic​he​lg​ai​ta​> A crash is weird/unexpected. Please read https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/blob/master/SUPPORT.md, it will tell you where you can find logs.

20:43 <queqiao--> Reply to "s​ic​he​lg​ai​ta​: A crash is weird/unexpected. Please read https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/bl...";

20:43 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> I can only find the player.log text document. It is interesting. Let me share it here. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/1351295002025918514/Player.log?ex=67d9db0a&is=67d8898a&hm=e717f12e8195fca88a5b37802216bbc7f4775756c4f2ca49090dcc8800e4044b&

20:52 <queqiao--> <s​ic​he​lg​ai​ta​> This doesn't look good: UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "C:\Windows\system32\KSP.lo... https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7e8f7151c3c248629c53e93a39bf76b0

20:53 <queqiao--> Reply to "s​ic​he​lg​ai​ta​: This doesn't look good: ``` UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "C:\Windows\s..."

20:53 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> Yep, that's what I thought interesting:)

20:53 <queqiao--> <s​ic​he​lg​ai​ta​> This doesn't look good: UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "C:\Windows\system32\KSP.lo... https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f23514dfdb9f42d7beb32106da0b8117

21:06 <queqiao--> Reply to "T​he​ A​po​ll​o: Yep, that's what I thought interesting:)"

21:06 <queqiao--> <e​gg​> How are you starting KSP? the working directory is system32, so you are not going to space today. Some badly configured shortcut perhaps?

21:20 <queqiao--> Reply to "e​gg​: How are you starting KSP? the working directory is system32, so you are not going to spac..."

21:20 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> That was it. Typically, I start it with a shortcut from my favorites, which was never an issue with regular RP-1. I just tried starting it from the main install folder, and everything is peachy. Thanks a lot.

21:21 <queqiao--> <e​gg​> Well, you need to fix the Start in: value in the properties of the shortcut.

21:22 <queqiao--> <e​gg​> Perhaps it did not cause RP-1 to crash, but it still meant you didn’t get a KSP.log, and I wouldn’t be surprised if other things were silently broken.

21:23 <queqiao--> <e​gg​> We break more loudly.

21:23 <queqiao--> Reply to "e​gg​: Perhaps it did not cause RP-1 to crash, but it still meant you didn’t get a KSP.log, and ..."

21:23 <queqiao--> <T​he​ A​po​ll​o> that is probably true. Totally forgot about changing the Start in: value

21:24 <raptop> 💭 Why is it called a working directory when we're playing games in it?

21:35 <queqiao--> Reply to "e​gg​: Perhaps it did not cause RP-1 to crash, but it still meant you didn’t get a KSP.log, and ..."

21:35 <queqiao--> <s​ii​ma​v> Yeah, I put in a bunch of effort so that RP-1 and the mods we maintain wouldn't break and someone else would have to deal with the stupid PDLauncher fallout.

23:30 <queqiao--> <e​zs​na​ck​> Any paper on hyperbolic RV that i can look at? :v