UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: hp67 instructions!
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: you should go flying in GSB that way you can RTN
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<egg|df|egg> !wpn SnoopJeDi
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<SnoopJeDi> TIL Perceptron
<SnoopJeDi> e_14159, despite the "I'm not super interested in neural nets" point I claimed last week, I am now considering taking a crack at using one to try and animate some of these shots of Jupiter's pole >_>
<SnoopJeDi> is that Maru? looks a little like Maru
<UmbralRaptor> ^
<Iskierka> no idea. but quite possibly
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<Ellied> the grad students have been trying to use the new calibrated power meter as a detector for the spectrometer. "we can see the light when we look in; it should be plenty, right?"
<Ellied> turns out the amount of light the human eye can pick up is *really small*
<Ellied> that is the minimum amount
<SnoopJeDi> ~3 photons with proper darkness
<SnoopJeDi> which is shocking, but the wetware does an awful good job of the heuristics
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<Ellied> yeah there's a reason the thing came with a PMT
<Ellied> (a really shitty one with a dreadful proprietary control box, but a PMT nonetheless)
<e_14159> SnoopJeDi: :D
<e_14159> What would you want to use?
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<kmath_> <Bay12Games> @Untrustedlife https://t.co/klWinc3lrS
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<Ellied> ;mission
<kmath_> Ellied: You scram your antimatter reactor. Your Kerbonauts unionize, and decide to strand you on Eve.
<Iskierka> a case where both readings of unionize are understandable
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<SnoopJeDi> e_14159, not sure! I did a half-hearted search and ended up on http://web.mit.edu/vondrick/tinyvideo/, which is neat but a little too general of a problem I think (although one of the authors is from my alma mater!)
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<egg> cynodont!
<e_14159> SnoopJeDi: The second link looks almost photorealistic.
<SnoopJeDi> I haven't poked at the paper yet but yea it's pretty neato (especially the beach ones)
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<e_14159> SnoopJeDi: Of course, that would rely on something like jupiter's poles being in the training set
<SnoopJeDi> Yea, it'd be a pretty bold reach
<SnoopJeDi> My naive showerthought was "ahh vortices are vortices amirite"
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<UmbralRaptor> NASA dabbles in the occult to determine size/shape of 2014 MU69 https://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-horizons-deploys-global-team-for-rare-look-at-next-flyby-target/
<egg> has someone run our market-leading dog hallucination technology on the poles of jupiter yet
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<e_14159> egg: *our*. It's already too late; they assimilated you.
<egg> e_14159: now I hallucinate dogs all the time :-p
<egg> in that case it was a quote though:
<egg> !g "our market-leading dog hallucination technology"
<Qboid> egg: No results found for ""our market-leading dog hallucination technology""
<egg> ...
<egg> yes there are results you silly bot
<egg> there's one
<e_14159> Market-leading dog hallucination tech, but clearly not market-leading search engine tech :-)
<UmbralRaptor> Egg: that sounds like a way to summon Lovecraftian horrors.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: true
<egg> On the comments, I mentioned that one of the technologies Andreas had mentioned -- "The human Google doodle? The Hell of Eyes and Phantoms? The firework-launching self-driving car? The scientist with the head of a falcon? Our market-leading dog-hallucination technology? The same chicken sandwich, three times a week?" -- was real, and challenged the readers to guess which.
<egg> Today, I am glad to be able to publicly discuss our market-leading dog-hallucination technology.
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<egg> e_14159: eh, as long as the dogs are properly translated I'm fine
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<e_14159> egg: Btw, what's your programming organization technique?
<egg> e_14159: what do you mean?
<egg> also do you mean principia or Google
<egg> though tbh I guess with principia I've been following a googleish approach for a while so it's almost familiar :-p
<e_14159> s/programming organization/software development
<Qboid> e_14159 meant to say: egg: Btw, what's your software development technique?
<egg> e_14159: what do you mean by technique in this context
<e_14159> We're probably going to transition from unorganized chaos to scrum-like abominational chaos
<egg> what's scrum
<egg> do I want to know
<e_14159> I don't know.
<regex> You and your father implementing scrum for your two-person team?
<e_14159> Apparently it's a framework to organize software development.
<egg> regex: ?
<regex> are you guys going to have daily stand-ups?
<egg> regex: I'm not the one scrumming, e_14159 is apparently
<regex> maybe some retrospective meetings?
<e_14159> Of course, I kind of doubt it's very useful in an academic setting
<regex> Oh, my bad.
<egg> regex: with phl we just code review thoroughly
<e_14159> But well, as long as we get some sort of organization
<e_14159> I spent the last week documenting stuff and telling people to write stuff down :-/
<egg> (sometimes the tests aren't reviewed as thoroughly because lazy, but I try to at least make sure the general design of the test is sensible)
<e_14159> We had our code hugely distributed, i.e. most of it was on students' (sometimes personal) laptops
<egg> [talking about principia here]
<regex> Scrum isn't terrible
<egg> e_14159: still not sure whether you're asking about google or principia, and what specifically you're asking though
<regex> We use it here at work, it's pretty refreshing, actually.
<e_14159> egg: Google or principia, and essentially how to organize the process from an idea to implemented code in a team.
<egg> if the idea is complex, design doc (even in principia, though very informal, we sometimes end up having to do that)
<egg> to get an outline of what APIs we need, what algorithms we need, etc.
* e_14159 nods
<egg> (sometimes in principia that's just verbal, but the same idea: phl's downsampling work is projective plane (done), projection (done), occlusion by spheres (wip), the downsampling algorithm (paper looked at, will have to dig more))
<e_14159> regex: Did you have anybody with scrum-experience?
<egg> e_14159: then when it comes to code, review
<egg> thoroughly
<egg> nitpickily :-p
<regex> e_14159 we had one or two, and we consulted with an outside scrum master who had implemented it successfully for a local video game company
<egg> e_14159: and unit test all the things
<egg> e_14159: the reviewer should and does complain about untested things: https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/1417#pullrequestreview-41077944
<Qboid> [#1417] title: Uniform speed display | | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/1417
<egg> e_14159: and review everything from design to formatting nitpicks: #1388 has quite a few comments if you want eggsamples
<Qboid> [#1388] title: A better parser for units | Fix #1357. | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/1388
<egg> e_14159: or #1372 (that one is too big, but it's a bit of an odd piece of code anyway, combinatorial explosion of code paths)
<Qboid> [#1372] title: More elements | Fix #1339.... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/1372
<egg> e_14159: and at google you also have the distinction between approval and lgtm (you need owners approval, readability approval, and lgtm)
<egg> you can look that up probably
<e_14159> egg: And many, many commits
<e_14159> egg: Yup, saw that in the offical tf repo
<egg> do they have OWNERS files?
<e_14159> regex: Maybe we should do that. Instead we're not [s]crash and burning[/s] starting on tuesday, apparently.
<egg> though readability isn't in fancy files like that
<regex> Well, keep an open mind but, yeah, scrum isn't for the unexpected.
<regex> like any development framework you can fuck it up
<e_14159> Back in a few minutes
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<e_14159> regex: My slightly more differentiated opinion is that scrum appears to be a nice and interesting way of developing software, but that I'm unsure of whether it will help us because a) increments are difficult to define for us, b) I feel like I'm the only one actually organized, and c) we don't have any experience with it.
<regex> e_14159: yeah, you definitely need to have buy-in
<regex> it takes a team to make something like that work, but when it does work it's a pretty good framework, keeps things moving.
<regex> Also, on the increment thing, it's of note that the entire company here went to Scrum, marketing and all, but that IT (where I am now) doesn't use it because support simply cannot be incremented.
<regex> but when I was developing, it was pretty cool.
<e_14159> Honestly, I doubt we'll ever have a buy-in. Which means that I'll probably have to somehow try and organize stuff :-/
<regex> :(
<e_14159> But no use moping :-)
<e_14159> It's good to hear that you had good experiences with it; makes me a bit more hopeful.
<regex> Sure
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<egg> e_14159: also, I keep writing TODO(egg) instead of TODO(eggrobin) at work
<egg> (I'm eggrobin@)
<egg> the thing is the lint check that checks that you TODO someone that eggsists fails to fail, because someone has egg as an email alias
<egg> so I'm assigning TODOs to some random person :-p
<egg> I need to write an egglinter
<egg> (I write linters anyway, so why not)
<egg> bofh: you should nickserv
<bofh> oh not again
<bofh> done
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<bofh> LOL
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* UmbralRaptor uses scihub for research porpoises.
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<UmbralRaptor> (rayleigh scattering cross sections of N2 and O2)
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: also bought this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPreg-6D9c&t=0s
<kmath_> YouTube - Lego NASA Saturn V - Hands On Build & Review
<egg> (backordered as hell)
<egg> from that video, the techniques are really interesting
<UmbralRaptor> shiny.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: of course once I build it I should put it on my tech lead's desk, desk 39A :D
<UmbralRaptor> :D
<egg> UmbralRaptor: I moved some time ago, immediately noticed his desk number
<egg> UmbralRaptor: so this is the immediate conclusion
<egg> UmbralRaptor: my director and his admin are 37A and 37B, so I guess I should try building some Saturn Ibs too :-p
* UmbralRaptor still likes the thrown together from spare parts aspect of the Saturn I.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yeah the first stage is cute
<egg> UmbralRaptor: both I and Ib
<UmbralRaptor> Also, the RL10 spam for the I's 2nd stage.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: seems challenging to render in LEGO at this scale though
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<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
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<egg> is it five-choosable
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<kmath_> <scanlime> https://t.co/7yWbG5nvyl
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<UmbralRaptor> Tired cat?
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor and a cat: https://twitter.com/catpic11/status/869886682945814529
<kmath_> <catpic11> 悪巧みする2人組 https://t.co/fNTq8xSS1l
* UmbralRaptor Caw! Caw!
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<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: a vile force of darkness has arrived!
<UmbralRaptor> A stegasoar?
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: nono, just goblin invaders
<egg|df|egg> the stegosaur is still in the caverns probably, but I'm not done building the gate to welcome it
<kmath_> YouTube - Piper Short Movie
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: no trolls or beak dogs this time, just a sizeable contingent of goblins
<egg|df|egg> goblinite for the goblinite god!
<UmbralRaptor> Yay
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: a visiting hammerdwarf happened to come from the same direction as them, it didn't end well for the hammerdwarf
<UmbralRaptor> =\
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: more corpses to scare the invaders away though
<egg|df|egg> most of the time they leave the visiting scholars alone, so that's nice
<egg|df|egg> welp a goblin hammerman has decided to leave
<egg|df|egg> that's maybe not a great idea
<egg|df|egg> also the combat logs between goblin hammermen is confusing
<egg|df|egg> welp two more visitors decided to get out, but at least they are meeting the invaders within range of the archery tower
<egg|df|egg> still ill-advised.
<egg|df|egg> UmbralRaptor: beak dog bone bolts are stabbing though
<UmbralRaptor> Yay, stab.
<egg|df|egg> now the traps are stabbing
<egg|df|egg> uh so goblin blood they haven't reached the entrance bridge hall yet, and goblin is flowing down the stairs to the hall from all the stabbing by bolts outside
<egg|df|egg> (because of course flow mechanics apply to blood)
<egg|df|egg> oh hey a scholar is visiting