UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|anbo|egg> (stabbity emoji in general, but the use of VS-16 is correct)
<whitequark> SnoopJeDi: nope
<whitequark> and nope
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<Ellied> the more I work on this counter board, the simpler the design gets
<Ellied> which is cool because I'm figuring out the best way to do it, but also means that I can't talk about it on electronics channels anymore because people feel more confident in splaining me how to do it better. :/
<Ellied> (they could easily be right in theory, but in practice it's always "why are you trying to do it like that? Just use [method I tried half a year ago and found to be unviable]!")
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<SnoopJeDi> whitequark, fusion genes are pretty cool conceptually, although I only really know about NTRK mutations. One of your tweets made me think it'd be something of which you'd enjoy digging into the particulars.
<UmbralRaptor> general channel comment: Raptop == UmbralRaptor
<SnoopJeDi> the tl;dr of TRK is that the tyrosine receptor kinases coded for are a really important step in the cell signaling cascade, and particular gene fusions of NTRK (NTRK1, 2, 3 I believe) cause pathologies that lead to unique cancers
<UmbralRaptor> Ellied: you could use them as capacitors? >_>
<SnoopJeDi> not sure if it's been stuck into a paper yet, but I recall reading a conference presentation from I think March 2016 about entrectinib that showed *incredible* before-after brain scans showing cancer going from "This person has <6 months to live" to "We can't really detect cancer" in 6 months
<Ellied> that might get me charged with battery
<whitequark> SnoopJeDi: whoa
<whitequark> also I'm now reading that reciprocal translocations happen in 1/500 to 1/650 of births
<whitequark> that... is a LOT
<whitequark> how can we even assign genes to chromosomes if 1/500 times we're wrong?!
<SnoopJeDi> I'm not suuuper familiar with the genetic particulars, but I think it's understood as a localized thing
<SnoopJeDi> this primer seems to have the information from the talk I read whitequark: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/OncologicDrugsAdvisoryCommittee/UCM508677.pdf
<SnoopJeDi> I wanted to ask you since I know you're up-and-up on a lot of the biochemistry. I haven't really been doing due diligence on trying to keep up on entrectinib
<Ellied> also, there's no way I'm going to be able to follow the HAT spec if I'm going to finish this thing before the end of the summer
<SnoopJeDi> beyond just asking my dad how his clinical is going >_>
<Ellied> I'd have to figure out how to into EEPROMs
<SnoopJeDi> whitequark, also: you've seen that quantum dot "we took a film of replication" paper, right? The one where they saw replication starting/stopping frequently and proceeding at variable rates?
<SnoopJeDi> time for geneticists to get busy rewriting the BIOL 100 textbook again...
<whitequark> SnoopJeDi: yeah I've seen that one
<SnoopJeDi> [biology jealousy intensifies]
<Ellied> the RPi HAT standard basically reads like
<Ellied> 1. don't attach anything to ID_SC and ID_SD that isn't an EEPROM
<Ellied> 2. be extra sure not to attach anything to ID_SC and ID_SD that isn't an EEPROM
<whitequark> lo
<whitequark> l
<Ellied> FAQ: "Can I build an add-on board that doesn't follow the HAT spec?" "yes, as long as you don't attach anything to ID_SC and ID_SD that isn't an EEPROM"
* UmbralRaptor feels like https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/879821032990932992 is distantly related to why bofh's twitter avatar demonstrates the meissner effect.
<kmath> <bofh453> Accurate. Very distressingly still 100% accurate, at least w.r.t the Cuprates. https://t.co/TVqMr9FEBu
<SnoopJeDi> tired brain thought: "gmail" feels grammatically close to "gaol" despite a large Levenshtein distance
<SnoopJeDi> I guess because the phonemes are closer
<UmbralRaptor> That's silly, given the way email works. G+ would be closer semantically.
<UmbralRaptor> >_>
<SnoopJeDi> G+ recommended "mathematics" to me today
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<egg|anbo|egg> SnoopJeDi: G+ has some interesting math discussions on occasion (John Baez posts there often, Tao too)
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a cesium diprotodon/keyboard hybrid
* egg|anbo|egg pets the diprotodon
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<egg|anbo|egg> <egg|rain|egg>
<SnoopJeDi> egg|anbo|egg, I just got a kick out of the absurdity of thinking of it as "pssst hey kid, you wanna try some *mathematics*?"
<UmbralRaptor> !choose math|meth
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Your options are: math, meth. My choice: math
<UmbralRaptor> ;choose math|meth
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: meth
<UmbralRaptor> hm
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a diabolic pilcrow
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
* Qboid gives egg|anbo|egg an antisymmetric keyboard
<egg|anbo|egg> uh, how does that work eggsactly
<UmbralRaptor> Ask Qboid?
<kmath> <carobertemes> Family conversation yesterday: "So you have to pay to attend conferences? But the amount they pay you to give a talk covers that, right?" ?
<SnoopJeDi> ? indeed
<egg|anbo|egg> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1F643 UPSIDE-DOWN FACE (?)
<Iskierka> https://i.imgur.com/DZcWb4q.jpg @ UmbralRaptor
<UmbralRaptor> Can it head over to the arboretum instead of reading over my shoulder?
<Iskierka> maybe if you ask nicely?
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: oh btw I saw some dinosaurs
<UmbralRaptor> \o/
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: https://goo.gl/photos/yieCVRVBfdXPctH16
<UmbralRaptor> Semi-aquatic dinosaurs!
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<UmbralRaptor> "To have the best experience joining meetings, Java must be installed on your computer and enabled in your browser and the Java Control Panel. Install and enable Java, restart your browser if needed, and then join the meeting again."
* UmbralRaptor pours coffee on webex.
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn ferram4
* Qboid gives ferram4 an involution-like heptagon
<SnoopJeDi> so uh
<SnoopJeDi> word has gotten back to me that the physics happy hour crowd are abysmal tippers -_-
<SnoopJeDi> typically $1 or less regardless of total bill
<UmbralRaptor> ow
<SnoopJeDi> yea. very annoyed to have to send this email I'm drafting
<UmbralRaptor> (Admittedly, I'm one of the people who would see that it's in a bar, and skip. And probably drift that way if it's in spendier restaurants.)
<SnoopJeDi> skip? as in, not tip in bars, but tip in restaurants?
<SnoopJeDi> or the other way round?
<UmbralRaptor> skip as in, if it's in a bar, never show up.
<SnoopJeDi> oh. yes, I'd much rather people don't show up to happy hour if they're not going to tip
<SnoopJeDi> be a jerk on your own time, don't ruin the reputation of an entire departmental happy hour
<SnoopJeDi> well, "jerk" is erring too far to loaded language, but you catch my meaning
* egg|anbo|egg pokes america in the tips (though sub-dollar seems low even by european tip standards)
<SnoopJeDi> different countries are different indeed
<SnoopJeDi> but the angst over de facto wage subsidization are wildly misplaced: the only persons influenced by not tipping are the employee and the customer, the business could not care less
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: ah, not that. More of "These events seem focused on an unenjoyable activity (consuming alcohol) and using a lot of a limited resource (money)."
<SnoopJeDi> we have one fella who comes to almost every happy hour and doesn't drink, he seems to enjoy the company well enough
<SnoopJeDi> but I hear you loud and clear, heh
<Iskierka> if tip exists then that amount seems low, but I wouldn't expect to tip at all here usually
<SnoopJeDi> I revived the organized happy hour more in the interest of mental health than in the interest of booze
<SnoopJeDi> though I am quite partial to a good beer >_>
<Iskierka> the noodles place confused me as it did say service not included or something to the extent, which seems odd when they did have wait staff who presumably must be paid
<Iskierka> I guess they accept a slightly random income from each meal and then find a way to pay the staff from that?
<SnoopJeDi> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<egg|anbo|egg> SnoopJeDi: yeah, but even with tips that are not essentially wages (european-style), sub-dollar seems low if you're going to tip; what's the median bill on which does tips are applied?
<egg|anbo|egg> Iskierka: the paranormal distribution has lower variance
<SnoopJeDi> egg|anbo|egg, no idea, but nationwide data from Square suggest the bar average in the US is ~15%
<UmbralRaptor> egg|anbo|egg, Iskierka appropriately enough, the paranormal distribution is not a (single valued) function. :D
<SnoopJeDi> if it's a frequent watering hole for me, I leave 20% personally
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: wait, there's a specific distribution called the "paranormal distribution"?
<SnoopJeDi> probably explains why I can get a diet coke refilled without waiting long, heh.
<Iskierka> I could maybe understand sub-dollar if you were trying to round it to a whole number to pay, but then I'd think if you're just using it to be lazy why not round to 5 or so so that you have simpler currencies to carry
<Iskierka> which could occasionally be sub-dollar but not consistently
<SnoopJeDi> I guarantee these are not people paying with cash
<Iskierka> in which case rounding it may apply for some with minor OCD but is definitely not necessary
<SnoopJeDi> "minor OCD" heh
<SnoopJeDi> but yea, there are of course a lot of ways to frame it, but I don't think any of them get you out of "you're harming your own interests at best, being inconsiderate at worst"
<SnoopJeDi> cat.
<egg|anbo|egg> Iskierka: cat.
<egg|anbo|egg> CAT(k)
<egg|anbo|egg> ANBOcat gets all eggscited whenever we're eating saucisson/saucisses sèches before dinner
<UmbralRaptor> cat saucission0 saucission1 > anbocat
<SnoopJeDi> ahh I see the problem now. cosine and sine are *different* functions
* SnoopJeDi makes note
* UmbralRaptor guesses SnoopJeDi did something silly.
<SnoopJeDi> I zigged when I shoulda zagged
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<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: otoh, ANBOcat didn't seem interested in the andouillette
<egg|anbo|egg> [ context for those unaware of french food: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saucisson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouillette ]
<SnoopJeDi> TIL cajun andouille is distinct from french andouille
<egg|anbo|egg> SnoopJeDi: huh, it's not made from intestines/stomach?
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<egg|anbo|egg> !acr -add:AAAAA Association Amicale des Amateurs d'Andouillette Authentique
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a router
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn Iskierka
* Qboid gives Iskierka a Grothendieck ?
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
* Qboid gives egg|anbo|egg a submersion
<egg|anbo|egg> <UmbralRaptor> cat saucission0 saucission1 > anbocat << too many 'i's
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: and yes, we did give ANBOcat a slice :-p
<egg|anbo|egg> Arianespace stream in 20 min
<Sarbian> Can't look, I am putting cat on orbits
<Sarbian> Cats even
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: :D
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: poke me if you need help with the integrators
<egg|anbo|egg> otherwise I will poke you if you do it wrong :-p
<Sarbian> I won't do hi precision for some loading screen fun
<Sarbian> egg|anbo|egg: https://i.imgur.com/NOLs61p.png
<Sarbian> (I wrote that 30min ago)
<UmbralRaptor> pos += Time.FixedDeltaTime * vel + 0.5 * (force / Mass)**2 * Time.FixedDeltaTime;
<UmbralRaptor> vel += Time.FixedDeltaTime * force / Mass;
<UmbralRaptor> >_>
<SnoopJeDi> [instability intensifies]
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: I thought that parabolic thing was better, and could be applied to arbitrary RK methods?
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<egg|anbo|egg> AAAAA?
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg: [AAAAA] => Association Amicale des Amateurs d'Andouillette Authentique
<Sarbian> UmbralRaptor: I have more advanced integrators in MJ, but this is for a stupid animation :)
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, parabolic thing? Maybe I'm wrong but isn't what you wrote forward Euler?
<SnoopJeDi> my brain is not really all there today so I'm probably wrong
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi: A second order version, yeah.
<Sarbian> So when did Arianespace SpaceX stole the whole concept of 'edgy trance like' music in the stream ?
<UmbralRaptor> Compare with Sarbian's code snippet.
<UmbralRaptor> "parabolic thing" as in it approximates the cat's movement during the timestep as a parabola.
<UmbralRaptor> vs the 'linear' version linked.
<SnoopJeDi> oh I hadn't looked in the image
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: your word order is strange, but I get the point
<Sarbian> yeah, I inserted SpaceX 1 word early
<Sarbian> and even with that it s wrong...
<Sarbian> So when did Arianespace stole SpaceX concept of 'edgy trance like' music in the stream ?
<egg|anbo|egg> stream started
<Sarbian> I now know why Ariane is doomed. Even as a French I am annoyed by the English of its representative
<egg|anbo|egg> launch complex red
<egg|anbo|egg> back to green
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<Sarbian> No footage of the landing ;)
<egg|anbo|egg> :-p
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: hmm should I play some DF
<Iskierka> build a particle accelerator for nomal
<FluffyFoxeh> I love the SpaceX stream music
<FluffyFoxeh> wish I could find more like that
<Iskierka> isn't a lot of it kevin macleod?
<FluffyFoxeh> some of it is
<FluffyFoxeh> some others are other random stock music
<Sarbian> egg|anbo|egg: do you have a compute that can launch KSP around ?
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: uhm, I can try doing it on my laptop
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: don't have 1.3 here though, so it'll have to be 1.2.2
<Sarbian> It will do
<Sarbian> hum, no it won'ty. I forgot that there was some specific 1.3 changes :(
<egg|anbo|egg> blarg
<Sarbian> I managed to create a nice random starting state with 10 cats that have 0-4 CatMoon
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: nice (but if the central cat is pinned I will stab you with the output of !wpn :-p)
<Sarbian> It s not pinned anymore
<Sarbian> it get often throw of screen with some staring states
<egg|anbo|egg> clearly that's a problem with not handling stiff systems properly
<egg|anbo|egg> (or maybe not using the conservation effects of a symplectic integrator)
<Sarbian> I only have a 100 mass factor between a body and it s 'parent'
<Sarbian> and some orbit are retrograde
<egg|anbo|egg> that's not necessarily too big a problem (and retrograde orbits should improve things fwiw)
<egg|anbo|egg> maybe you want to draw things in the frame centred on the bigger nyancat if some states make one smaller one fly away fast
<egg|anbo|egg> but then again it's nice to stay in the barycentric frame and see the central nyancat wobble
<egg|anbo|egg> maybe just stay in the barycentric frame of the bound cats and ignore those who have clearly escaped (for some definition of clearly escape)
<Sarbian> I just locked the main one and it make the whole thing last longer. I ll consider a barycentric view
<Sarbian> It ejected of of the moon and I now have some HalleyCat ;)
<Sarbian> err, one of
<egg|anbo|egg> Sarbian: nooooo don't lock cats!!! :'(
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: kozai cats
<UmbralRaptor> eggcentric cats
<egg|anbo|egg> eggsactly
* egg|anbo|egg pokes UmbralRaptor with kozi
<egg|anbo|egg> s/zi/zai
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg meant to say: /me pokes UmbralRaptor with kozai
<UmbralRaptor> !choose call google about phone problems|visit AT&T store about different phone problems|kozai
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Your options are: call google about phone problems, visit AT&T store about different phone problems, kozai. My choice: kozai
* UmbralRaptor glares at Qboid
* egg|anbo|egg pets Qboid
<egg|anbo|egg> !choose zzz|not zzz
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg: Your options are: zzz, not zzz. My choice: zzz
* egg|anbo|egg zzz
<Sarbian> o/
<UmbralRaptor> \o
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