UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<UmbralRaptor>
Achievement unlocked: IM'd the technical support of a large corporation because I felt to shy to call. o_O
<egg|anbo|egg>
UmbralRaptor: this is YouTube though so I guess I'd hallucinate cats?
<Iskierka>
or parrots going "weeehhh!"
<UmbralRaptor>
Meowing parrots.
<egg|anbo|egg>
!wpn Majiir
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<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn -add:wpn spin
<Qboid>
UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
<egg|anbo|egg>
Majiir: also principia has a new release every new moon now
<egg|anbo|egg>
Majiir: and sarbian is making n-body nyancats
<Majiir>
I am the author of the world's most far-reaching Cat Facts via SMS system
<UmbralRaptor>
Majiir: wait, what?
<Majiir>
I work for a company that does emergency notification
<Majiir>
A few mergers later and we're the largest? one in the market now
<Majiir>
I wrote the system that sends SMS for one of the companies, and within a few weeks it'll be the SMS system for the combined companies
<Majiir>
I snuck a Cat Facts system past code review
<Majiir>
and we have all sorts of international SMS coverage that it turns out is rather hard to get, so there you have it: world's most widely available Cat Facts
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<egg|anbo|egg>
cats!
<egg|anbo|egg>
\o/
<UmbralRaptor>
So you can test your SMS system with cats!
<Majiir>
We did in fact do that
<Majiir>
We weren't sure if the legacy system was still receiving so I tested cat facts
<SnoopJeDi>
local library book club thingy re: climate was *okay*
<SnoopJeDi>
Not really sure what I was expecting
<UmbralRaptor>
Hrm. Can you explain?
<UmbralRaptor>
(Also, do you have an opinion about the Warm Regards podcast?)
* UmbralRaptor
isn't certain what books would be best at this point. The Madhouse Effect, or...?
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, NOAA/NSF program that gives a grant to a handful libraries (~50 I believe) in the US to host 3 readings/discussions
<SnoopJeDi>
We read "The Water Knife" and then had a 2 hour sitdown which was a mixture of broad discussion of climate change, with lots of focus on how it can drive local change/adaptation (there was some video about a guy who runs a 3D kelp/scallop/oyster farm)
<SnoopJeDi>
and then discussion of the book itself and that naturally segued into climate
* UmbralRaptor
has heard good things about that book.
<SnoopJeDi>
we had a climatologist from our local dept of atmospheric science, he made us (most attendees def not academics) aware of things like climate.gov
<SnoopJeDi>
stepped through one or two datasets using one of the explorer tools available there, to show Texas trends over the recorded history
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, you want a copy? I've got *two* now because I foolishly entered a little raffle at the event (I wanted the NASA conference swag bag :x) and got a hardcover
<UmbralRaptor>
!
<UmbralRaptor>
If it weren't for the whole moving in the next month or so, I'd totally say yes.
<UmbralRaptor>
Meh, it's just one book, and I'll be getting rid of a bunch anyway.
<SnoopJeDi>
ahh, new place or are you relocating for program?
<UmbralRaptor>
Relocating for program.
<SnoopJeDi>
(my brain is not good at keeping track of this sort of misc I'm afraid, I feel rotten about it)
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<SnoopJeDi>
oh and no I have not heard of Warm Regards
<UmbralRaptor>
They're a podcast trying to get into some things around climate change.
<SnoopJeDi>
I have the most awful typical-physicist perspective on it tbh. I know some radiative transfer, I know thermo, I've done stochastic *stuff*, so ofc I think I know everything I need to know
<SnoopJeDi>
Nevermind that I couldn't explain how a thunderstorm forms better than a 10 year old might (and quite a few 10 y/os would beat me!)
<UmbralRaptor>
Heh.
<SnoopJeDi>
the broad strokes of IPCC's projections aren't that hard to gloss over, though
<UmbralRaptor>
As far as biological feedback goes, have you ever seen stuff about daisyworld?
<SnoopJeDi>
doesn't ring a bell, no
<SnoopJeDi>
oh, neat
<UmbralRaptor>
Yeah, it's about the simplest possible model and it shows spiffy things.
<SnoopJeDi>
we were discussing overfishing a little because of the video we viewed, and I pointed out that "overfish" isn't even a fixed volume when you consider that climate can drive ecology (and *gulp* vice versa)
<Ellied>
whitequark: hey, my replacement laptop battery is in Hong Kong, can you grab it for me
<whitequark>
Ellied: where in hong kong
<Ellied>
I can't tell, Aliexpress just says "Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT"
<whitequark>
well HKIA handles between 20k and 35k parcels per *hour*
<whitequark>
that was in 2005 actually
<Ellied>
I'd easily believe that
<Ellied>
hmm, lithium is low-z, you probably wouldn't be able to find it with an x-ray fluorimeter
<hattivat>
only a language processing tool designed by a mathematician would infringe on the maxim of relation this hard by simply assuming a math-related implicature
<hattivat>
funny, nonetheless :)
<Iskierka>
it was quite exact
<hattivat>
only if you discard 2/3 of the question
<kmath>
<whitequark> do I know anyone speaking Polish? why is "iron" "żelazo", but "cast iron" is "żeliwo"? what's the etymology. it's weird!
<egg|anbo|egg>
though I think it got answered
<hattivat>
I think it's basically because cast iron isn't just literally cast iron, it's a specific kind of alloys
<hattivat>
so it's not particularly weird for it to have a separate name
<Iskierka>
my thought was żel- is probably the root for different kinds of iron and translators are considering colloquial "iron" to mean a slightly more specific kind?
<kmath>
<whitequark> twitter analytics rolling out useful new metrics https://t.co/5Aun2ueGPy
<egg|anbo|egg>
hattivat: in french it's "fonte" which is essentially "that which is obtained from melting" (and is congnate to the english fount or font)
<hattivat>
Iskierka: Żelazo is iron, as in the chemical element
<hattivat>
-iwo is a productive suffix in Polish, many nouns are made up using it
<egg|anbo|egg>
typically "fonte" means cast iron, and you can then be more specific and say "fonte d'aluminium" etc. for other metals
<hattivat>
like chłodziwo ("the cooling material", from chłód which means coldness)
<Iskierka>
and I guess it's normal to take off the end of other nouns when making compounds, unlike german?
<Iskierka>
(contrary to the name I don't speak any polish)
<hattivat>
there is also staliwo from stal (steel)
<hattivat>
and apparently also żelaziwo for some other alloy, although I've never heard that word before
<hattivat>
Iskierka: yes, it is
<hattivat>
if they are long enough for it to be clear what the stem of the word is
<egg|anbo|egg>
!wpn Iskierka
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<hattivat>
Iskierka: also, "contrary to my name I don't speak any Polish" - High five, contrary to my name I don't speak any Finnish :)
<hattivat>
egg|anbo|egg: what do you call iron, as in ironing iron?
<hattivat>
for us, it's żelazko
<hattivat>
so it's clearly related but not weirdly ambigous like in English
<Iskierka>
also not pronounced almost the same as ion so did you say it's a Li-ion or LiFe battery?
<egg|anbo|egg>
whitequark: wait, 55% of your audience is me? how does that work >_>
<whitequark>
egg|anbo|egg: the other kind of egg i suppose
<hattivat>
Iskierka: hahaha, thankfully no
<Iskierka>
alternatively egg spends way too much time on twitter
<hattivat>
although we do have our share of weird homophones
<hattivat>
like morze and może (both pronounced mozhe) - one means "the sea", the other "maybe"
<Iskierka>
I feel like you need to get somewhat particular to have a sentence that can confuse those
<hattivat>
so yeah, morze może is a popular pun during the holiday season
<hattivat>
Iskierka: true, but it does lend itself to puns, as exemplified above
<Iskierka>
I had thought of that. If it were english it would also work parsed both ways
<hattivat>
actually id does in Polish too
<hattivat>
because może is also one of the forms of the verb móc (to be able to)
<hattivat>
so yeah, you can parse it as "the sea can..."
<hattivat>
although the instincitive interpretation for most people is "perhaps the sea"
<egg|anbo|egg>
hattivat: for ironing you say "fer à repasser"
<egg|anbo|egg>
hattivat: which pretty much means "ironing iron" (except the verb for ironing has nothing to do with iron)
<hattivat>
egg|anbo|egg: yeah, the verb is also different in Polish, it's prasować, literally "to press", as in what a hydraulic press does
<hattivat>
so when you use an old-school mangle, that also "prasować"
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<Technicalfool>
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<kmath>
<KernCanCode> the real semantics of semantic versioning: major = a breaking change minor = a minor breaking change patch = a little-bitty breaking change
<egg|anbo|egg>
(and no version numbers :D)
<egg|anbo|egg>
(via @hikari_no_yume)
<egg|anbo|egg>
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<egg|anbo|egg>
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<hattivat>
!wpn egg|anbo|egg
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<kmath>
<allgebrah> the cheshire cat fades, leaves nothing but a grin, eyes, ears, fur - actually, everything's still there but still, the cat itself is gone