#kspacademia on 2018-07-03 — irc logs at esper.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:59 <bofh> https://twitter.com/Newpa_Hasai/status/1013900511911784448 #lifegoals

00:59 <kmath> <Newpa_Hasai> @iximeow Three sixes of highly effective dæmons.

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04:22 <SilverFox> so quick question, there must be a formula for calculating the distance between two fixed points with known distance between them, given a set curve in the line connecting, how long is that curved line, like | vs ) where both points are equidistant, only thing changing is the curve angle

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06:18 <UmbralRaptop> Something something contour integrals? But this sounds like something that a picture would clear up.

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07:51 <UmbralRaptop> !acr -add:HADES Harps-n red Dwarf Exoplanet Survey

07:51 <Qboid> UmbralRaptop: I already know an explanation for HADES! (Update it with !acr -update:HADES Harps-n red Dwarf Exoplanet Survey)

07:51 <UmbralRaptop> HADES?

07:51 <Qboid> UmbralRaptop: [HADES] => HARPS-N Red Dwarf Exoplanet Survey

07:52 <UmbralRaptop> Travel makes me an involuntary morning person. =\

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08:28 <UmbralRaptor> "You make puny things like the earth."

08:29 <UmbralRaptor> "Giant planet giant impact phase" o_O

08:29 UmbralRaptor is now known as ExoRaptor

08:30 <egg|zzz|egg> ExoRaptor: Ꙩ_ꙩ

08:30 <ExoRaptor> Eggsactly

08:31 <egg|zzz|egg> EggsoRaptor

08:31 <ExoRaptor> Trying to figure out why giant planets are in weird places.

08:32 <ExoRaptor> Also, detection limits mean we could be missing lots of distant and/or small gas giants.

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10:02 <egg|zzz|egg> ExoRaptor: smol giants

10:04 <ExoRaptor> For their porpoises, Jupiter is smol. Need ~2 M_♃

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11:59 <egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptop; O_o

12:01 <UmbralRaptop> Other weirdness: most rocky planets seen so far are probably failed/evaporated minineptunes, with formation somewhat different from actual terrestrial planets!

12:09 <egg|work|egg> O_o

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12:15 <UmbralRaptop> O_o https://twitter.com/KevinHeng1/status/1014063289859559424

12:15 <kmath> <KevinHeng1> Just to reiterate: Exoplanets III to VI are set. Heidelberg (2020), Vegas (2022), Amsterdam (2024), Porto (2026). L… https://t.co/jXyUnonJvq

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12:38 <UmbralRaptop> I'm not sure 500 houses is going to be useful unless Cambridge is way smaller than I thought. https://photos.app.goo.gl/82xw77oqtEnucMhu9

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13:09 <egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptop

13:09 * Qboid gives UmbralRaptop a flying lung

13:09 <egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh

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13:09 <egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark

13:09 * Qboid gives whitequark a license

13:21 <UmbralRaptop> The license is for electrical installation.

13:33 <UmbralRaptop> I swear, someone just cited Sunyaev.

13:45 <SilverFox> did someone answer my question?

13:54 <UmbralRaptop> @UmbralRaptop> Something something contour integrals? But this sounds like something that a picture would clear up.

14:08 <SilverFox> you want a pic from me?

14:10 <UmbralRaptop> uh. Not that kind.

14:12 <UmbralRaptop> But, yes. The question wasn't entirely clear.

14:14 <bofh> https://twitter.com/Eleanor_Robson/status/1014125185459507200

14:14 <kmath> <Eleanor_Robson> A vital but little-known research resource for all cuneiformists, with search interface in English and German 👇. Bo… https://t.co/sLRlz5BP8J

14:16 <SilverFox> you have 2 points, 10m apart, right, the minimum length of a line between these points is 10m, but if you have any curve to that line, the length is longer

14:16 <egg|work|egg> bofh: nice

14:16 <SilverFox> how do I calculate that length given a degree curve?

14:18 <SilverFox> we know the line will always connect the two points, so there must be a set relationship

14:51 <egg|work|egg> !meow bofh

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15:52 <bofh> https://twitter.com/WAWilsonIV/status/1014169647103475712 this is incredible

15:52 <kmath> <WAWilsonIV> Welp, using adversarial examples to force neural networks to do free computation for you is definitely the most cyb… https://t.co/NCojKdrAcb

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16:19 <UmbralRaptop> SilverFox: https://photos.app.goo.gl/q3VW7g7vAUH9FKF9A I think. Grab a calculus textbook, and look for some distance integral.

16:20 <SnoopJeDi> tired: shooting delivery drones out of the sky

16:20 <SilverFox> my eyes just glazed over

16:20 <SnoopJeDi> wired: reprogramming delivery drones to complete your Fallout NV cosplay

16:21 <bofh> inspired: reprogramming US government drones to ship your drugs into the USA for you

16:24 <UmbralRaptop> SilverFox: it's totally a common problem in Calc I or II.

16:24 <UmbralRaptop> (… Type II Calculus?)

16:26 <SnoopJeDi> bofh, mired: reprogramming the US government

16:26 <SnoopJeDi> alternatively, quagmired:

16:36 <UmbralRaptop> SnoopJeDi: lolsob

16:36 <UmbralRaptop> … a presenter used Gerg/s/cm² for mostly legitimate reasons.

16:43 <SnoopJeDi> space \o/

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16:54 <bofh> UmbralRaptop: LOL

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16:58 <iximeow> .. Gerg?

16:59 <UmbralRaptop> gigaerg

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17:09 <iximeow> huh, i've never herd of "erg" as a unit

17:09 <SnoopJeDi> it's really common in astrophysics

17:09 <SnoopJeDi> (AFAICT)

17:11 <APlayer> Not some measure of radiation?

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17:30 <SnoopJeDi> APlayer, 'radiation' is a fairly vague descriptor

17:34 <APlayer> Ionizing radiation

17:38 <UmbralRaptop> erg = dyne * cm

17:38 <UmbralRaptop> = 1e-7 J

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17:55 <SnoopJeDi> So my advisor thinks ITER could die within a year. Not sure how to interpret that prediction.

17:56 <SnoopJeDi> But apparently they have produced 400+ tons of conductor which is a fairly ‼fun‼ fact

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18:12 <egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh

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18:12 <egg> !wpn u

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18:13 <egg> um

18:13 <egg> s/u/*raptor/

18:13 <Qboid> egg meant to say: *raptorm

18:13 <egg> yes

19:05 <SilverFox> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36590312_1196761557133461_7491657634177613824_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=858a44f0c58d34276386e2dcd2747ba7&oe=5BE73D23

19:05 <SilverFox> have meme

19:09 <egg> !pet bofh

19:09 <Qboid> (1,2): error CS1660: Cannot convert `lambda expression' to non-delegate type `object'

19:09 <Qboid> System.Func`1[System.String]

19:09 <Qboid> (1,2): error CS0103: The name `bofhtime' does not exist in the current context

19:09 * Qboid pets bofh

19:24 <bofh> I like how I type in 't' into my address bar and the first result is "List of trigonometric identites" AND THAT'S ALSO EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED

19:28 <egg> :D

19:52 <egg> bofh: which one were you looking for

19:55 <bofh> cos(atan(x)) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+x^2}}

20:50 <egg> cat. https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/987379428610093056

20:50 <kmath> <whitequark> @volatile_void https://t.co/X6dwVf1Ob7

20:55 <bofh> !meow egg

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20:55 <bofh> today's terrible/awesome idea: symphonic metal, but with lyrics in Akkadian

20:55 <bofh> (I'm actually *really* surprised this doesn't exist already).

20:56 <egg> !meow bofh

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21:00 <Ellied> !u

21:00 <Qboid> What code point do you want me to look up?

21:00 <Ellied> !u 📅📆🗓

21:00 <Qboid> U+1F4C5 CALENDAR (📅)

21:00 <Qboid> U+1F4C6 TEAR-OFF CALENDAR (📆)

21:00 <Qboid> U+1F5D3 SPIRAL CALENDAR PAD (🗓)

21:02 <egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ

21:02 <Ellied> all of those show July 17th on my phone

21:03 <Ellied> on my laptop the first two have no text, but the third has just the number 1

21:04 <Ellied> actually the first two might at larger sizes, lemme make the font stupidly large

21:04 <Ellied> yeah no, just squiggles

21:09 * Ellied is trying out Unifont as a terminal font

21:10 <Ellied> another exciting episode of "is this chromatic abberation in my eyeballs or subpixels"

21:14 <egg> Ellied: ah, following FakeUnicode's suggestions?

21:14 <Ellied> aye

21:14 <egg> Ellied: clearly you need a terminal with OpenType support and font fallback, anything less is not suited to displaying text,

21:14 <Ellied> does indeed provide good Unicode coverage

21:14 <Ellied> well yeah but I like me a bitmap font for my terminal anyway

21:15 <Ellied> I just switched from Terminus so there's basically no difference aside from nicer bold

21:18 <egg> Ellied: but how will you display arabic on your terminal

21:20 <Ellied> uh, I think it'll work fine because I'm using unifont as my primary terminal font?

21:35 <egg> Ellied: no I mean it's a language that *requires* ligatures

21:36 <egg> s/language/script/

21:36 <Qboid> egg meant to say: Ellied: no I mean it's a script that *requires* ligatures

21:37 <egg> shaping is fun

21:37 <egg> Ellied: https://w3c.github.io/alreq/#h_joining

21:40 <egg> https://w3c.github.io/alreq/#h_styling_individual_letters

21:40 <egg> (plenty of scripts have nontrivial shaping, *gestures at India*)

21:45 <bofh> I thought only alef-lam was mandatory, the remainder of the ligatures in Arabic were, in theory, discretionary (in practise, it'll be hard as fuck to read w/o them)

21:47 <egg> bofh: so the ligatures, yes, only that one is requried; the joining is *not* optional though

21:47 <egg> (it's not a ligature, it's cursive joining, the letters are distinct but joined and shaped differently)

21:48 <egg> https://w3c.github.io/alreq/#h_joining_rules

21:51 <bofh> Ahh. Right, I remember now.

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22:32 * bofh stares at Voyager 2 CRS plot

22:40 <egg|z|egg> bofh: ?

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22:46 <egg> !wpn UmbralRaptop

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22:47 <egg|zzz|egg> !seen whitequark

22:48 <Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I haven't seen the user whitequark yet.

22:48 <egg|zzz|egg> !meow whitequark

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22:48 * UmbralRaptop really needs to get better at being human.

22:48 <UmbralRaptop> !wpn egg

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22:54 <UmbralRaptop> Also, it's hard to get eggcited about a world cup game for obvious reasons.

22:58 <egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: not enough dinosaurs?

22:59 <UmbralRaptop> Something like that.

23:00 <UmbralRaptop> More of "What do you do?" *describes research* "what do you do for fun/hobby/etc?" uh…

23:04 <UmbralRaptop> Relatedly, using tonight's drink voucher to get a coke.

23:04 <iximeow> "can i get one coke?"

23:04 <iximeow> 'rum and coke? sure thing boss'

23:04 <iximeow> "hold the rum please"

23:06 <egg|zzz|egg> animals are making strange noises outside

23:07 <UmbralRaptop> RT'd by a different Canadian scientist named "Peter" https://twitter.com/exoZafar/status/1014114113188843520

23:07 <kmath> <exoZafar> Also, as I’m laying here in my stuffy Caltech dorm, I find it odd that science is being withheld due to the money i… https://t.co/D29jWUvtNs

23:08 <UmbralRaptop> iximeow: hah. Also, I'm in Britland, so there's beer everywhere.

23:09 <UmbralRaptop> At least "pub" also seems to imply decent food.

23:11 <egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: how do you know it's a different one

23:13 <UmbralRaptop> I've met Peter Gao, an definitely was not a block of YBCO.

23:14 <UmbralRaptop> s/an/and he/

23:14 <Qboid> UmbralRaptop meant to say: I've met Peter Gao, and he definitely was not a block of YBCO.

23:16 <UmbralRaptop> (Also, see the pronoun in the above line)

23:23 <egg|z|egg> UmbralRaptop: maybe that was actually a block of YBCO wearing a disguise,

23:25 <UmbralRaptop> Hm

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23:57 <bofh> UmbralRaptop: https://twitter.com/LucaPlanets/status/1013707975058485248

23:57 <kmath> <LucaPlanets> The orbit adjust burns of @NASA_TESS were 10 times more precise than expected! It was so good that the spacecraft h… https://t.co/v6XLOWcwPV

23:59 <UmbralRaptop> Yay