01:08 <hillexed> to be honest I thought isopropyl alcohol would be a lot more irritating than it is

02:13 <UmbralRaptor> Weird realization: at this moment there are 4 spacecraft missions dedicated to trying to understand asteroids. As in flying right now.

05:18 <tawny> nice

06:27 <egg|paris|egg> no, that would require 65 more,

06:32 <egg|phone|egg> INTEGRAL?

06:32 <Qboid> egg|phone|egg: [INTEGRAL] => INTErnational Gamma-Ray Astrophysics Laboratory

08:22 <bofh> https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/1017485668123996160

08:22 <kmath> <alicegoldfuss> I know so many talented people fleeing the US and taking their talent with them ⏎ ⏎ In 10 years, Europe will echo the… https://t.co/BeqHQTjozN

08:26 <egg|phone|egg> !wpn

08:26 <egg|phone|egg> !Wpn whitequark

13:46 <SilverFox> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36887362_492305534559519_7650846254791917568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7fa25b5e4c9b13228423da917d43df22&oe=5BDE8774

13:46 <SilverFox> have a meme

14:09 <SilverFox> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36940745_502598250176921_1659267757616660480_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8a9b22c4c6f67c8d63f0240c83ac2301&oe=5BD5B079

14:09 <SilverFox> another one

15:00 <e_14159_> UmbralRaptor: Oh?

15:02 <UmbralRaptor> e_14159_: well, they did just make a "did you assume my gender" joke…

15:03 <e_14159_> Is that a type of joke?

15:06 <UmbralRaptor> For the MAGA types, yes.

15:24 <UmbralRaptor> Anyway, I assume bofh et al are visiting covens today?

15:26 <e_14159_> UmbralRaptor: MAGA?

15:27 <e_14159> (Sometimes I feel as if I were speaking a different language)

15:27 <UmbralRaptor> e_14159: Make America Great Again. (One of Trump's slogans)

15:27 <UmbralRaptor> e_14159: en-US vs en-DE?

15:28 <e_14159> Well, I am aiming rather towards en-UK, but it's probably a mix of en-US, en-UK, en-DE, en-CS, and en-BS.

15:50 <UmbralRaptor> "We offer the following LaTeX templates as a courtesy. We are not LaTeX experts, and no one currently working in or affiliated with UDTS or DoIT created these templates. Furthermore, no one in UDTS or DoIT can manipulate the LaTeX code. If you choose to create your thesis or dissertation using LaTeX, we can check the final product, in its PDF form, but we cannot manipulate the code at all. You will need to find someone in

15:56 <e_14159> UmbralRaptor: You cut off after "someone in"

15:58 <UmbralRaptor> hm

15:59 <UmbralRaptor> You will need to find someone in your school/college/program to assist you with LaTeX, because we cannot."

16:06 <e_14159> But they are scientists, aren't they?

16:08 <UmbralRaptor> This is from the thesis guidelines page, so the people who wrote it might not be?

16:45 <awang> !wpn -add:adj bootleg

16:45 <Qboid> awang: Adjective added!

16:45 <awang> !wpn -add:wpn chicken

16:45 <Qboid> awang: Weapon already added!

16:45 <awang> !wpn -add:wpn cassowary

16:45 <Qboid> awang: Weapon added!

16:54 <UmbralRaptor> https://mastodon.social/@MicroSFF/100368403305912556

17:45 <SnoopJeDi> e_14159, oftentimes templates and the like will come from an administrative Office of Graduate Studies who are not "scientists" per se

18:30 <e_14159> SnoopJeDi: I shouldn't complain; we don't even have an official latex template

18:33 <SnoopJeDi> heh

20:08 <awang> egg|work|egg: How straightforward did you find using Intel IACA?

20:08 <awang> Also, have you looked at llvm-mca?

20:09 <awang> Or llvm-exegesis

20:27 <awang> Oh what the heck

20:27 <awang> Why does __builtin_parity on Clang produce 16 instructions

20:28 <awang> Is that actually optimal?

20:29 <awang> https://godbolt.org/g/Fye1VC

20:48 <SnoopJeDi> e_14159, ooph, this thread. https://twitter.com/SimonDeDeo/status/1017616703864307712

20:48 <kmath> <SimonDeDeo> OK: following, my thoughts on Google Brain and similar institutions. Disclaimer: this is my opinion, as someone who… https://t.co/6koj7Ymqq9

20:52 <e_14159> SnoopJeDi: USP of twitter: 130 characters per tweet.

20:52 <e_14159> Also, wat?

20:52 <SnoopJeDi> yea, threads are weird, but I enjoyed that one

20:56 <e_14159> I don't really get his point.

20:57 <SnoopJeDi> I guess it reduces to "corporate research isn't research?"

20:57 <SnoopJeDi> modern corporate research* anyway

20:58 <e_14159> He seems to dislike Brain etc for their resources (saying that it isn't science, which is an acceptable opinion to have - there's huge weaknesses in ML research today) but at the same time it rather looks like he's talking about DL in general

20:58 <SnoopJeDi> I don't know how I feel about his stance, but it was a provocative read

20:59 <SnoopJeDi> I'd say the gist of it is that ML in particular is a stick with which to whack upon any trees that might produce cashfruit?

20:59 <SnoopJeDi> industrial ML, that is

20:59 <SnoopJeDi> vs. "We had an idea and pursued it because it was interesting and *maybe* of value"

21:00 <e_14159> Maybe

21:00 <SnoopJeDi> but...just last week I was stoked about a Google Brain paper about reprogramming NNs, so...

21:00 <e_14159> Yet, honestly, saying that "after two weeks of work we were better than Google Brain intellectually" stinks a slight bit of arrogance.

21:01 <SnoopJeDi> agreed

23:58 <egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptor: today at ANBO: ANBOcat got in a fight with a grey cat that was presumably trying to get in bofh's room