egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<UmbralRaptop> hah
<kmath> <✔mbeisen> I have long argued we should let scientists post preprints but peer review all press releases. https://t.co/mH04cEILfq
<bofh> UmbralRaptop: I mean I agree.
<SnoopJeDi> signed.
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<UmbralRaptop> SnoopJeDi: Joe seriously should one take these sorts of proposals? https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25171/an-assessment-of-us-based-electron-ion-collider-science
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, Joe?
<SnoopJeDi> But yea, that was released today alongside a very dull webinar.
<SnoopJeDi> It's not a very interesting review :|
* UmbralRaptop hochos their phone. s/Joe/How/
<SnoopJeDi> Ahh
<SnoopJeDi> You should take EIC very seriously, it was one of the enumerated priorities of NSAC's LRP in 2015
<SnoopJeDi> buuuuut, DOE is being very tight-fisted with actually ponying up money for any R&D work (in contradiction to finding #6)
<Qboid> [#6] title: Quantities tests | Unit tested physical quantities.... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/6
<SnoopJeDi> eRHIC's conceptual design was supposed to be done at the end of last month :/
<SnoopJeDi> no word on that, although I see they've unveiled a very nice website to promote the project
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.1701 is the community whitepaper calling for the construction of such a machine (and the science portion of the review is largely parroting that)
<SnoopJeDi> very digestible executive summary but the tl;dr is "we dunno all that much about the nucleus"
* UmbralRaptop approves of the pun in the title.
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, I suspect the US won't have the political will and the Chinese will build one
<SnoopJeDi> but CERN has their eye on it as well with the LHeC concept as well
<SnoopJeDi> seems incredibly unlikely though, they'd have a nightmare pulling off polarized hadrons, I think.
<SnoopJeDi> but to wit: we've had the plug semi-officially pulled on our trickle-down funding from JLab
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<kmath> <rygorous> @bofh453 @eggleroy The Wallace tree lays on its back, its partial products baking in the hot datapath, toggling its… https://t.co/xGCdEhf1Ca
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<maxalt> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<maxalt> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<maxalt> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<Cory> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<Cory> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<Cory> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<rej> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<Swant> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<Swant> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<Swant> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<ihavoc> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<ihavoc> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<ihavoc> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
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<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn bofh, whitequark, et al.
* Qboid gives bofh, whitequark, et al. a bismuth fusor
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<bofh> Bienvenue à Helsinki-Vantaa
<kmath> <✔esa> 🎥 Replay of today's #Ariane5 #VA244 launch, carrying 4 new #Galileo satellites into orbit. Join us for live coverag… https://t.co/9t1BYQfISr
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<peaches> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<peaches> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<peaches> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<peaches> Voice your opinions at https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#freenode
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<patate> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<patate> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<patate> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
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<APlayer> Oh, it's still happening
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<APlayer> egg, bofh, UmbralRaptor ^
<APlayer> Someone kickban this one please
<SnoopJeDi> "IRC investigative journalists" lol
<APlayer> +r is what?
<SnoopJeDi> registered only
<APlayer> Not bad
<APlayer> The spammer is still in the channel, AFAIK, though
<UmbralRaptop> not showing on the user list
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<SnoopJeDi> whoa, did they get DC'd in some way that...doesn't show up?
<APlayer> Huh
<SnoopJeDi> my client is also still tab-completing them, which is bizarre
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<APlayer> That's interesting
<APlayer> What if you try to kick them anyway?
<APlayer> Does it work?
<APlayer> Because I don't see a join message either, for some reason I assumed they were here before I was, and this was not the first message
<SnoopJeDi> nah, tried already
<APlayer> Huh
<UmbralRaptop> same
<kmath> <✔planet4589> Mars Express, which has been orbiting Mars since late 2003, has found evidence for a large body of liquid water und… https://t.co/te9ko52Out
<SnoopJeDi> WOW, the CNN article on it links directly to the article in Science
<SnoopJeDi> WHAT YEAR IS IT
<APlayer> "On Earth, similar ‘subglacial’ lakes are home to microbial life.". On Earth, everything is home to microbial life, though
<kmath> <astrokiwi> Outer Solar System exploration: a compelling and unified dual-mission Decadal Strategy for exploring Uranus, Neptun… https://t.co/EU5XNE42Ze
* awang hochos Abaqus's Python
<\mSg> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<awang> Being forced to use Python 2.6 is more painful than initially expected :(
<APlayer> Wait, what's that?
<awang> What's what?
<APlayer> <\mSg> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered [...]
<awang> Also, since when were backslashes allowed in IRC nicks?
<APlayer> That's not supposed to be a HTML tag, that's a copied user name in brackets
<awang> Yeah, I know
<awang> Still, when were backslashes allowed in nicks?
<awang> Or have they always been allowed and I've just been clueless?
<APlayer> Should I notify some IRCOp
<APlayer> ?*
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<SnoopJeDi> awang, always allowed afaik
<awang> "freenodegate" appears to be either a hit piece or the next big scandal, depending on your personal levels of cynicism
<awang> SnoopJeDi: TIL
<SnoopJeDi> yea smells like a hit piece
<APlayer> I'm bothered by the fact that the user is neither in the channel, nor joined the channel, nor left the channel
<APlayer> But they sent a message
<SnoopJeDi> hmmm
<snoopsith> doot doot
<SnoopJeDi> sorry for the notice, wondered if maybe esper did something weird with that?
<snoopsith> another doot
<snoopsith> oh, lmao
<APlayer> Uh
<SnoopJeDi> channel mode +n will block messages from external users
<SnoopJeDi> but I can't apply it because of mode-lock, cc egg|anbo|egg
<APlayer> So they just sent a message while not in the channel? That is possible?
<SnoopJeDi> or UmbralRaptop I guess, maybe you have ACLs
<SnoopJeDi> APlayer, yea
<APlayer> I see
<bofh> wtf
<APlayer> Net alteration: "bofh sets mode -p on #kspacademia"
<SnoopJeDi> /mode #kspacademia +scampi
<bofh> what the actual fuck, so I have no idea what the current MLOCK is b/c there is no way to *view* a channel MLOCK, only one to *set* it.
<bofh> this is shitfuckawful design.
<bofh> Okay, so none of those seem mlocked
<SnoopJeDi> but n is o.O
<bofh> okay I bruteforced it, lol.
<SnoopJeDi> maybe it's locked by default so nobody could set -n, but that would kinda imply +n is default?
<SnoopJeDi> IRC: unsolveable
<bofh> like I changed the MLOCK to +n, it seems to have inexplicably been set to -n, since that's literally the only mode off https://esper.net/ircd.php#ircd-channelmodes that gave me an error when I set a bunch at once.
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: feel free to change/correct as needed^
<awang> What even just happened
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: you +red so my phone can't join
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<egg|phone|egg> Meow
<bofh> Oops, sorry (I saw that mode there so I just re-added it, but it seemed odd for it to be there to me, oops).
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop added it earlier before we knew what the heck was going on
<bofh> Ahh.
<bofh> on a complete tangent, it *is* sensible to thank Ἄργος Πανόπτης. when your keratoconjuctivitis starts rapidly going away instead of turning into another case of uveitis, right? :P
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<shenglong> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<shenglong> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<shenglong> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
<shenglong> Voice your opinions at https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#freenode
<APlayer> SnoopJeDi: I guess we need mode +r again
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<SnoopJeDi> APlayer, I would except that egg|phone|egg's phone isn't registered (and maybe other users)
<SnoopJeDi> this @ is just a fashion statement :P
<APlayer> What about whitelisting egg? Is that a thing?
<SnoopJeDi> doesn't look like there's an exemption for +r
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<egg|anbo|egg> bofh: no cos right now, except maybe some blocked by a tree
<UmbralRaptop> APlayer, e_14159, Sarbian, egg|anbo|egg, Thomas: a chance to yell at people about DST! https://ec.europa.eu/eusurvey/runner/2018-summertime-arrangements?surveylanguage=EN
<UmbralRaptop> (via bofh)
<bofh> egg|anbo|egg: grr, damn. :(
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<e_14159> UmbralRaptop: They seem to have fixed the servers.
<e_14159> And of course it uses Google captchas.
<UmbralRaptop> uh
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<APlayer> Is it just me, or does the parker solar probe seem to be much rather a PR stunt than anything else?
<awang> APlayer: Why do you say that?
<APlayer> Because the fact that it gets so close to the sun gets advertised so enthusiastically, before the probe has even launched. As opposed to, say, Mars probes, where they clearly state that they either look for life, or are a step towards a manned mission, or similar
<APlayer> Usually, that is
<kmath> <bofh453> What the actual fuck. ⏎ ⏎ Download everything off of youtube, since it basically will fucking disappear without warnin… https://t.co/eBFmwOdpkw
<iximeow> wtf why
<awang> Most innocent explanation: Broken bots and overwhelmed staff
<awang> Less innocent explanation: Someone's messing with the takedown system and Youtube doesn't care enough to actually check if the videos should be taken down
<awang> Feel free to add more interesting guesses
<awang> APlayer: I mean, don't Mars missions also get heavily advertised before launch?
<awang> Like Curiosity was known to go look for signs of life
<awang> Although the hovercrane might have drowned out quite a bit
<bofh> like, if anything is a publicity stunt it's Mars 2020.
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<dp3> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
<dp3> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
<awang> pls
<dp3> Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate
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<iximeow> hum
<iximeow> bofh: you have op, ping
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<iximeow> woo
<awang> Can we autokick/ban on the first line or something?
<awang> Or we can wait for the network ban too
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<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9WohNvaA3qVXmk1TA
<egg|anboscope|egg> a bit late, so a bit dark, so long eggsposure, so blurrycow
<egg|anboscope|egg> should get better cowpics tomorrow
<iximeow> moo
<APlayer> Are you calibrating your telescopes on cows or something?
<UmbralRaptop> Cow or SCP?
<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: what's the difference,
<UmbralRaptop> Swiss Cow Powers
<UmbralRaptop> More seriously, the image looked like one of those blurry observations that some SCPs have.
<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: also moo https://photos.app.goo.gl/GRWuvbWytQQidMWm9
<UmbralRaptop> … and anaconda (modestly) failed me again.
<UmbralRaptop> !moo moon
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<bofh> rofl
<bofh> let me see if I can postprocess the cow into a nicer image.
<awang> egg|anboscope|egg: Why is the image rotated so much?
<UmbralRaptop> awang: what if field rotation, but too much.
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<bofh> egg|anboscope|egg: I improved the cow image somewhat, still trying to get the hang of various sharpening filters.
<bofh> rescaling levels improved things immensely, a bit of colour balance took care of the bulk of the rest, tho.
<bofh> now to see if I can hand-bayer-filter that church :P
<bofh> rofl someone asked me the difference between typhoons and monsoons and my response was "one's Swirling Ocean Death, the other Linear Ocean Death"
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<awang> UmbralRaptop: Field rotation?
<UmbralRaptop> bofh: accurate
<UmbralRaptop> awang: If an alt-az telescope is tracking something, the image will appear to rotate as the telescope moves.
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<egg|anboscope|egg> bofh: cosmos 1844 just flew closeish to m31
<UmbralRaptop> Big observatory scopes often have field derotators (this is not a problem for equatorial mounts)
<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: currently focusing on 8,5 s eggsposures >_>
* egg|anboscope|egg appears to have focused something
<egg|anboscope|egg> blarg, did the main scope decollimate itself from the finder
<kmath> <volatile_void> @FakeUnicode @xzqx wow you are like Undefined Behavior Twitter, but for Unicode
<bofh> egg|anboscope|egg: also ooh, nice, Целина-2 ELINT sat iirc.
<awang> alt-az?
<awang> Apparently I have a lot of telescope fun to lean
<awang> s/lean/learn
<Qboid> awang meant to say: Apparently I have a lot of telescope fun to learn
<UmbralRaptop> Not trying to be rude, but Wikipedia has good descriptions and some pics.
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<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: I may have accidentally produced a FITS file,
<UmbralRaptop> "accidentally"
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<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: I don't actually know what to do with FITS files >_>
<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: ... should I send you some FITS files,
<UmbralRaptop> egg|anboscope|egg: technically I can work with them, but iximeow probably has an image processing pipeline already set up.
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<egg|anboscope|egg> sadly i don't have the cow in FITS
<egg|anboscope|egg> UmbralRaptop: how cold should i set my CCD btw
<B787_300> egg|anboscope|egg: as cold as possible?
<UmbralRaptop> egg|anboscope|egg: In principle what B787_300 typed. In practice, -20 ℃?
<B787_300> yeah a -20 is pretty common