egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<UmbralRaptor> Extremely frustrating thing: often not catching what a person says the first time they say it.
<iximeow> agree
<UmbralRaptor> (This has been happening a lot for the past 24 hours. Well, a lot more than usual)
<bofh> It's *extremely* frustrating, agreed.
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: ah, en-GB and en-US not being intelligible? :-p
<UmbralRaptor> Mostly pronounciation and stress. It's a smol problem.
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<kmath> <whitequark> today I had a dream about a cryptоcurrency slash censorship-resistant hypertext system where the Byzantine fault to… https://t.co/kxudMaqw4B
<kmath> <AcademicsSay> footnote goals | via @tedgioia https://t.co/IWTIAXvWz3
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<egg|work|egg> okay wtf the open tab I have with the Thomas-whitequark logs keeps updating fine, opening a tab there gives me an internal server error
* egg|work|egg pokes Thomas
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<egg|work|egg> whitequark: this makes the wiring in ANBO look sane https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1013775749751459847
<kmath> <whitequark> me (stupid, from degenerate 2010s): "this apartment ought to have a GFCI, maybe i should install one" ⏎ builders (sma… https://t.co/qvGer4tl78
<egg|work|egg> whitequark: do you have dead wasps tho
<bofh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiway_switching#Carter_system so I just discovered this abomination
<bofh> and holy fuck I'm amazed electrical fires aren't *more* common in US buildings tbqh.
<egg|work|egg> oh great putting the entire bulb at the phase O_o
<bofh> Ahh yes, hot/hot, the best "off" configuration.
<egg|work|egg> bofh: today in things that confuse me in english terminology, the use of "hot" or "live" but virtually never "phase" to designate that potential
<egg|work|egg> bofh: unrelated extremely confusing thing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citron
<bofh> Usually you only refer to what the phase of a live wire is relative to neutral if there's more than one phase involved.
<kmath> <annapjudson> One of my favourite people from the Linear B tablets is Karpathia the Procrastinating Priestess (actual text: "Karp… https://t.co/3ncxk84GGB
<egg|work|egg> bofh: yeah in french even in a single-phase context you would refer to the live as "the phase"
<bofh> Huh, now that's somewhat unusual to my ears, go figure.
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark's electrical installation
* Qboid gives whitequark's electrical installation a smooth muon
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: seems whitequark does the same https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1013838443653292033
<kmath> <whitequark> on the left, three mystery wires in decaying cloth insulation go into the wall. on the right, it's phase, neutral a… https://t.co/5nxxeIW0g2
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: seems Russian does the same actually https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko
<egg|zzz|egg> distinct lack of dead wasps tho https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1013841924560744450
<kmath> <whitequark> since people required photographic proof, here it is, mystery junction box https://t.co/F7loN4Vhuv
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a phi 📠
<kmath> <whitequark> when I poked with a meter, it made an omnious crackling sound and the lights started to flicker so I'm gonna go out… https://t.co/6iUocf9fH2
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<kmath> <dperny> @whitequark "whitequark's wiring" - the greatest thread in the history of code enforcement complains, locked by a b… https://t.co/drIaBcroGn
<kmath> <whitequark> oh look the ceiling lamp wiring is also... like that https://t.co/fA3Mxh4UYp
<egg|zzz|egg> oh gods switched neutral
<kmath> <whitequark> I think at this point I need less an "electrician" and more an "exorcist". I'll call the local church
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<bofh> https://twitter.com/11rcombs/status/1013851262604009474 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<kmath> <11rcombs> @whitequark okay the only thing I'm coming up with is "that light is across neutral and earth, and the neutral isn'… https://t.co/cIMQ2YqqUV
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<SnoopJeDi> So apparently Broodwar allowed fairly arbitrary buffer overflows with triggers and modders made crazy things with it, and Blizzard decided to *emulate* that to support old maps >_>
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<UmbralRaptop> egg|zzz|egg, whitequark, Iskierka: on a scale of 1 to 4, how much of a fire hazard is this?
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<kmath> <Exo2Conf> Laetitia Delrez: ⏎ 'The SPECULOOS transit survey: hunting for red worlds' ⏎ #Exoplanets2 https://t.co/otp31aJhQH
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: are the various extendy bits mutually exclusive/
<egg|zzz|egg> s/\//?/
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg meant to say: UmbralRaptop: are the various extendy bits mutually exclusive?
<egg|zzz|egg> SPECULOOS?
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: [SPECULOOS] => Search for habitable Planets EClipsing ULtra-cOOl Stars
<UmbralRaptop> Huh, already there.
<UmbralRaptop> Also, apparently the name of a Belgian candy?
<pthag> kind of gingerbread
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a superconducting triangulated pointer
<kmath> <11rcombs> @whitequark from IRC, where we're discussing this and other electrical terrors: ⏎ ⏎ <taixzo> we also had a chandelier… https://t.co/qPGe0b2ZVe
<egg|zzz|egg> how
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<UmbralRaptop> Is the house a summoning grid?
<UmbralRaptop> BEBOP?
<UmbralRaptop> EXPRESS?
<UmbralRaptop> EXPRES?
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: [EXPRES] => EXtreme PREcision Spectrograph
<UmbralRaptop> ESPRESSO?
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: [ESPRESSO] => Echelle SPectrograph for Rocky Exoplanet and Stable Spectroscopic Observations
<kmath> <Exo2Conf> David Martin: ⏎ 'Binaries Escorted By Orbiting Planets' ⏎ #Exoplanets2 https://t.co/YwhkQQXk9i
<UmbralRaptop> Unrelated: I swear I understand en-IT and en-DE more easily than en-GB. (Unsure about en-FR)
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<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: which colour convention is this? https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1013882678737817601
<kmath> <whitequark> the old insulation (unidentifiable crumbling polymer under unidentifiable crumbling cloth braiding) was in an extre… https://t.co/95k954MRhT
<kmath> <whitequark> mystery of the hot G/Y conductor: solved ⏎ I will find the trash who has worked on wiring in this house, and I will s… https://t.co/qSKpMWFT99
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: en-FR is not spoken to be understood,
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: much like fr-FR,
<UmbralRaptop> egg|zzz|egg: I thought that was fr-QC?
<egg|zzz|egg> well, yes
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: whitequark: cursed tables https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_(%C3%A9lectricit%C3%A9)#Code_couleur_utilis%C3%A9_pour_les_fils_%C3%A9lectriques https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4#%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring#United_Kingdom_2
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<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: I'm not sure what whitequark's heatshrink is though, is that two neutrals and one phase?
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: suggestion: engrave an explanation of the colour convention in cuneiform on the walls,
<kmath> <0xABD> @whitequark 20 years ago my family moved to a place which had ~6m of wiring across the corridor walls made of ~50-7… https://t.co/dlIJIia7aX
<kmath> <whitequark> @0xABD AAAAAAAAAA
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: blarg I can't seem to find a transcription in IPA of those vancouver plaza words
<kmath> <PhysicistLisa> Know your plastics https://t.co/ygcvlcwcPg
<kmath> <whitequark> also the decaying aluminium wire was load-bearing: the junction box was "fixed" to the wall with a single screw (na… https://t.co/NsCGJORZ4v
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanist_phonetic_notation stabbity lack of use of the IPA in america stabbity stab)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: "Not indebted to 𒀭𒌓.
<egg|zzz|egg> "
<bofh> oh man you just discovered NAPA notation? my condolences, it's absolutely awful.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah and that article linked downthread from the thing you retweeted doesn't give the IPA
<egg|zzz|egg> and I am extremely not feeling like wading through that table to transcribe from that crap to IPA
<bofh> Likewise.
<UmbralRaptop> !u 𒀭𒌓.
<Qboid> U+1202D CUNEIFORM SIGN AN (𒀭)
<Qboid> U+12313 CUNEIFORM SIGN UD (𒌓)
<Qboid> U+002E FULL STOP (.)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: wading through the tables is not enough... "and ⟨ṛ⟩ may be either retroflex or uvular"
<bofh> THANK.
<bofh> UmbralRaptop: Shamash [AN.UTU]
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: okay; ignore the NAPA shit, look for the languages themselves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squamish_language#Phonology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halkomelem#Phonology[13]
<egg|zzz|egg> (die Sprache an sich?)
<UmbralRaptop> danke
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: [ʃxʷtɬʼənəq xʷt͡ɬʼəʔˈənq]
<bofh> ugh, labialized velar fricatives? also thanks.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also, much more evidently twice the same word is close languages
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: and [ʃxʷtɬʼexən xʷt͡ɬʼaʔʃn] I think
<egg|zzz|egg> s/is c/in c/
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg meant to say: bofh: also, much more evidently twice the same word in close languages
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: hm, this says there are initial glottal stops, just mostly unwritten http://www.urkesh.org/EL2/Buccellati_1997_Akkadian_and_Amorite_Phonology.pdf
<bofh> YEP, those are almost certainly a thing.
<bofh> also FINALLY!!!
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark and коте
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