egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg> (the microphone somehow didn't pick up the beginning of the first smol, but I say smol again so that's fine)
<egg> whitequark: how silly is my pronunciation of smoltcp
<egg> [smɔltesepe] :-p
<egg> bofh: ^ words
<whitequark> egg: i have no idea what's the proper one
<whitequark> lol corn smut
<egg> PosterRaptor: your small almost sounds like [smɒːl]?
<egg> whitequark: so, uh, it's english, there's no proper one but you can probably get the three english dialects to fight with five american ones while the australians laugh
<egg> s/the th/th/
<Qboid> egg meant to say: whitequark: so, uh, it's english, there's no proper one but you can probably get three english dialects to fight with five american ones while the australians laugh
<egg> whitequark: [o] for small might be british? cc Iskierka
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<egg> Iskierka: still wondering about how to pronunce small vs. smol
<egg> see PosterRaptor's pronunciation and mine in the backlog
<Iskierka> idk IPA ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<egg> Iskierka: there are recordings
<Iskierka> Raptor's make sense
<egg> are mine silly?
<Iskierka> while small is definitely a different pronunciation I was totally unphased by it in context of accent
<egg> Iskierka: but the fun result of that is that my smol's vowel resembles that of PosterRaptor's small, and vice-versa :-p
<Iskierka> I think I like your smol better though
<egg> yay :-p
<egg> it does have a very silly short vowel length
<Iskierka> smol is a smol word, must have smol vowel
<egg> eggsactly
<egg> !wpn Iskierka, PosterRaptor, and whitequark
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<PosterRaptor> Hrm
<PosterRaptor> Admittedly my pronounciation makes smol smaller than small.
<PosterRaptor> I feel like we need a whitequark or aplayer for additional comparisons.
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<kmath> <bofh453> @dekisu I keep reading **kwargentina as a PIE reconstruction like **kʷargentina, lol.
<bofh> I think exactly two people follow me that'd get that joke, lol.
<bofh> (one of them is egg|zzz|egg)
<egg|phone|egg> **kʷargs
<bofh> is that a valid C++ identifier, actually? I'm curious.
<PosterRaptor> Please don't crash my Python codes with a bad Argentina.
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<iximeow> bofh: what does PIE mean in that context? because it doesn't mean what i think it means
<PosterRaptor> !acr -add:PIE Proto Indo-European
<Qboid> PosterRaptor: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<bofh> iximeow: Proto-Indo-European
<egg|phone|egg> Python-Indo-European **kʷargs: Compare German quer, old Norse vargr, Intel QWORD
<bofh> ROFL
<iximeow> !acr -add:PIE Position Independent Executable
<Qboid> iximeow: I already know an explanation for PIE! (Update it with !acr -update:PIE Position Independent Executable)
<iximeow> >:(
<PosterRaptor> egg|phone|egg: A∀A∀A∀A∀A∀A∀
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<kmath> <iglvzx> Yawn. https://t.co/dSzJnSd2gl
<iximeow> cat
<kmath> <3PSboyd> The most piteous of meows. https://t.co/f5nRNI5gJ7
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an extensive repeater
<bofh> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a long goto
<egg|zzz|egg> is that a goto involving a long pointer
<bofh> presumably
<egg|zzz|egg> sakeru gumi ad but with PSTR and LPSTR
<bofh> ...I am so annoyed that made sense to me :P
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also I should definitely call my kwargs kʷargs
* egg|zzz|egg wonders whether he can sneak that into the codebase at work >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/1002744424634281984 but now it no longer says cat! :-/
<kmath> <FioraAeterna> the endless struggle to put as much information into a tiny twitter bio as humanly possible ⏎ ⏎ while also trying to p… https://t.co/GPD7XaC1CV
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: aaaaa hittite has akkadograms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittite_cuneiform
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: so, I looked for demcmc on github to see if I can find what implementations actually do
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: the first result is https://github.com/jasonfrowe/Kepler
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: Fortran 52.5% Jupyter Notebook 44.8%
<e14159> egg|zzz|egg: I am not surprised.
<egg|zzz|egg> proper fixed-form fortran too
<egg|zzz|egg> and github's syntax highlighter doesn't handle fixed-form correctly
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: e14159: ah but there's also a repo entirely in Julia https://github.com/nwtuchow/TTVMCMC
<egg|zzz|egg> # WARNING: Does not get correct results! (Why?)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: e14159: https://github.com/ericagol/TTVFaster Julia Python C IDL, the C looks like FORTRAN
<egg|zzz|egg> help I am drowning in academic code
<e14159> You spelled "disaster" wrong.
<egg|zzz|egg> e14159: what, the C looks like disaster? yes it does, but in a FORTRANish way
<egg|zzz|egg> academic FORTRAN but the line continuations were replaced by obscenely long lines
<e14159> double f_j_k_i(double alpha,int j,int k, int i,double kappa_o_m, double beta_o_m,double *a00,double *a01, double *a10, double *a20, double *a02,double *a11);
<e14159> At least python looks sane-ish.
<egg|zzz|egg> e14159: yes, no types, giant function signatures, looks like FORTRAN to me :-p
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: Hittite Cuneiform is the second-worst writing system I know of, after Tangut.
<bofh> e14159: typical Fortran, yeah :P
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: how bad is Tangut? I don't really know anything about it
<egg|zzz|egg> iirc there's a dictionary that was published recently but it's in russian?
<egg|zzz|egg> or maybe i'm confused
<kmath> <BabelStone> Gerard Clauson's Skeleton Tangut (Hsi Hsia) Dictionary only £15.88 (74% off) on https://t.co/tVzMtFMYvx today… https://t.co/jUIm1pyevg
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: how does it compare to say Chữ Nôm
<egg|zzz|egg> ah ok "there are few recognizable indications of sound and meaning in the constituent parts of a character"
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: but I mean that's not bad for a common dish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%E1%BB%AF_N%C3%B4m#/media/File:Nom_Character_V04-5055.svg
<egg|zzz|egg> 20 strokes
<bofh> I mean not every Chinese dish is biángbiáng noodles :P
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah but phở is common
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: okay I think I'm going to have to try running that fortrany C
<kmath> <hikari_no_yume> a question for the ages https://t.co/xiZH9uOq6l
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<egg|zzz|egg> ah no it doesn't even do what i need
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a backwards-compatible Аэрофлот capital
* egg|zzz|egg stabs optimization
<egg|zzz|egg> how am i going to get trappist-1
* egg|zzz|egg meows at TRAPPIST-1
<bofh> looks like you got TRAPPIST-1 if you ignore the existence of 1d, lol
<egg|zzz|egg> >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> <_<
<UmbralRaptor> Please do not destroy planets in the habitable zone.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: phl is now translating a DEМCMC implementation from julian to C++
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: but it's just deмcmc, so we'll have to add the insane substep from that paper on top of it D:
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* UmbralRaptop blames TRAPPIST-1 for that.
<bofh> I mean, accurate, Keurig is awful.
<bofh> OH MAN RECENTLY I GOT TO TRY THE UTTER ABOMINATION THAT IS KEURIG TEA
<bofh> it's, like, hot water that someone waved some Camellia sinensis leaves at for a minute
<bofh> and yet somehow comes with a really weird aftertaste? as if they managed to get the tannins out of the tea leaves but literally nothing else
<egg|zzz|egg> hm I guess there should be a bulletin C pretty soon?
<egg|zzz|egg> not yet tho
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<UmbralRaptop> bofh: keurig seems to exist to demonstrate the quality and convenience of instant coffee with microwave heated water.
<bofh> ACCURATE
<bofh> PAINFULLY ACCURATE
<bofh> oh except it comes with more waste than instant coffee
<UmbralRaptop> (The keurig our school has is really slow, so a microwave would be about as fast. And brewing a pot within a factor of 5)
<bofh> rofl
<bofh> also I like how spellcheck gets really confused with words like "Nеscаfé"
<bofh> !u Nеscаfé
<Qboid> U+004E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N (N)
<Qboid> U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE (е)
<Qboid> U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S (s)
<Qboid> U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C (c)
<Qboid> U+0430 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER A (а)
<Qboid> U+0066 LATIN SMALL LETTER F (f)
<Qboid> U+00E9 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE (é)
<egg|zzz|egg> um.
<bofh> Should've made that c a cyrillic lowercase s, too.
<egg|zzz|egg> but, why not Νеsсаfе́
<egg|zzz|egg> !u Νеsсаfе́
<Qboid> U+039D GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU (Ν)
<Qboid> U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE (е)
<Qboid> U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S (s)
<Qboid> U+0441 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ES (с)
<Qboid> U+0430 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER A (а)
<Qboid> U+0066 LATIN SMALL LETTER F (f)
<Qboid> U+0435 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IE (е)
<Qboid> U+0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT (◌́)
<bofh> Oh neat that works.
<bofh> Specifically putting a combining acute onto a cyrillic ie.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: well, it has to work for stress marks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet#Diacritics
<bofh> oh right, I keep forgetting marking word stress is a thing in dictionaries
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark, коте, and the котяchrome kitten
* Qboid gives whitequark, коте, and the котяchrome kitten a pronominal octahedron
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn the grey kitten
* Qboid gives the grey kitten a bzip'd bolter
<egg|zzz|egg> will it fetch the bolter
<bofh> better question: will it bunzip the bolter after fetching it?
<bofh> https:/twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408
<kmath> <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<kmath> <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<bofh> wait how did that first link WORK?!?
<UmbralRaptop> Link parsing as magic?
<bofh> except that's a malformed URI, lol.
<UmbralRaptop> The bot might be doing standards violating things.
<egg|zzz|egg> probably it doesn't parse the protocol
<egg|zzz|egg> twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408
<kmath> <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<egg|zzz|egg> ftp://twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408
<kmath> <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<UmbralRaptop> Also, as an astronomer, I feel extremely called out.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: what, by ftp? :-p
<UmbralRaptop> Uh.
<egg|zzz|egg> ftp://twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408.dvi
<kmath> <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<UmbralRaptop> Yes, let's go with that.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah it doesn't parse URIs
<UmbralRaptop> gopher://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408.dvi
<kmath> https://twitter.com/AndrewNCassidy/status/1002946932837265408 <AndrewNCassidy> @bofh453 @Gok @stephentyrone @avalkyrie A dating site for fans of antiquated units of measurement, OKCubit
<bofh> LOL
<UmbralRaptop> That's a lot for a 25 cm OTA.
* UmbralRaptop is not sold on the advantages of an RCT over an SCT, especially for amateur purposes.
<egg|zzz|egg> oh also that's a 25, probably too big
<UmbralRaptop> IIRC, you can carry a 25 cm SCT (including mount) with 2 people.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: it's more about the mount
<UmbralRaptop> oh, right. There's that oversized mount. >_>;;
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: well it's not that oversized, going beyond 200 mm might be a bit much
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: I'm worried about dew collector plates in normandy, so a cat would preferably be some sort of field мак...
<kmath> <MemesSurreal> You are dead https://t.co/QWaqNX0Kkz
* UmbralRaptop wonders about dew shield and heater tradeoffs vs an RCT.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: does the VC200L sound reasonable to you
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptop
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptop a zeta tesselation
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an INTERCAL PDF
<UmbralRaptop> uh
<kmath> <✔nkjemisin> Meanwhile Ozzy is all, "Draw me like one of your French girls." https://t.co/iVbtozvMOF
* UmbralRaptop is confused by the spider in the image.
<UmbralRaptop> !acr -add:ASAS-SN All-Sky Automated Survey for Supernovae
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: I added the explanation for this acronym.
* UmbralRaptop is also confused by the SCT being more expensive than the RCT.
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: which spider?
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: oh on the VC200L? it's a cat without a dew collector http://www.ianmorison.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/HRM1.jpg
<UmbralRaptop> On the VC200L.
<UmbralRaptop> Hrm. Internal lenses.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: flat field apparently, which the RC doesn't have without an additional corrector
<UmbralRaptop> You can always add another optical element to chase down higher order errors.
<egg|zzz|egg> does 1,4-Dichloroelizabethylene Dehydrogenase ping ellied
<egg|zzz|egg> wait why isn't ellied here D:
<egg|zzz|egg> !seen ellied
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I last saw Ellied on [25.05.2018 17:22:18] in #kspacademia saying: "oh damn, new csb video. I'll have to watch that when I'm not on train wifi."
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: yeah, this is sixth order
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: afaict it's not bad http://www.scopereviews.com/page1u.html#2, not sure how to compare it with e.g. a similarly sized RC
<egg|zzz|egg> the RC might have more obstruction tho
<egg|zzz|egg> !pet UmbralRaptop
* Qboid pets UmbralRaptop
* UmbralRaptop is rather unsure then.
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptop
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptop a faithful FPGA
<UmbralRaptop> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a bosonic integrand/inexplicable popup that didn't used to be there and doesn't do what it used to hybrid
<UmbralRaptop> (Also, zzz at 19:52?)
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptop: ah no i forgot to dezzz
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<UmbralRaptop> Why does this site not allow ) (*I^$#@!~`,. =\ or spaces in passwords?
<UmbralRaptop> also, |
<egg> UmbralRaptop: do they use your password as an identifier,
<UmbralRaptop> Not that I can tell.
<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg> millipede!
<kmath> <ThePatanoiac> A wild cube can shed its corners to escape from predators. Replacements will grow from its surviving edges.
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<egg> bofh: https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/1002980798096723968 not to be confused with котяchrome
<kmath> <bofh453> Kodachrome K14 Girl :D https://t.co/qmDBb4Ra0i
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<bofh> egg: well yes.
<bofh> egg: also man, the K14 process is such a pain in the arse to develop (inexplicably, I've done it myself, by hand, many years ago).
<egg> !pet whitequark, котю, and the котяchrome kitten
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<egg> whitequark: any new catpics?
<whitequark> nope
<egg> whitequark: any catnews?
<egg> извескотя
<egg> !wpn whitequark
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<kmath> <bofh453> m⃗εσω https://t.co/4xuwSF7qjt
<egg> UmbralRaptop: hm, the two low-angle shots of the grey kitten can be blink-compared https://twitter.com/parport0/status/1000960636728299520
<kmath> <parport0> возьмите кота! мск. три месяца коту. https://t.co/t4DjzLGuvq
<UmbralRaptop> gray kitten egghibits significant activity, but I am unable to determine orbital elements from these observations.
<egg> bofh: UmbralRaptop: that paper on the nature of the TRAPPIST-1 eggsoplanets has impressively bad notation
<egg> bofh: UmbralRaptop: there's a b0 that they define to y1 and mention nowhere else
<egg> there's just a line that says b_0 = y_1.
<egg> there should be a linter for unused definitions in papers >_>
<UmbralRaptop> There really should.
<bofh> THERE *REALLY* SHPULD
<bofh> SHOULD*
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<awang> I'd imagine someone could hack together an unused-definition linter for latex papers
<awang> Assuming one of the definition package things are used
<egg> bofh: how the hell do they count only 14 additional TTV computations for a sequential 3-point adjustment of 2 parameters on 7 planets tho
<bofh> egg: that sounds... implausible?
<bofh> like that's an oddly low number
<egg> bofh: well I would expect 2 * 21
<egg> stabbity
<egg> bofh: blarg our MCMC doesn't appear to work
<egg> help i cannot into optimization
<egg> bofh: hm my TTV computation might be bad
<egg> we compute the errors between observed transits and the nearest model transits
<egg> rather than observed transits and "corresponding" model transits for some well-chosen epoch in the model
<egg> bofh: that sounds like one of those metrics with lots of horrible discontinuities, right?
<bofh> Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah I think it might have bad discontinuities now that you mention it.
<bofh> YES IT VERY WELL COULD
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<egg> this one is hard to get if you don't know the flintstones :-p https://twitter.com/theshums/status/1002779615197216769
<kmath> <theshums> “hey, we should put some music on the front of our menu” ⏎ “okay, what should I use?” ⏎ “eh, whatever’s probably fine” https://t.co/6EcSOzep2p
* egg had never heard that theme
<iximeow> excited to turn my telescope into a 20000mm pile of junk
<egg> iximeow: ?
<egg> bofh: also what do you think about those "smol" recordings from yesterday
<iximeow> egg: my SCT is still a bit misaligned and my hope at this point is pointing it at jupiter or other bright thing at very high magnification to work out remaining issues
<iximeow> i also appear to have an issue that results in the handset freezing from time to time, vaguely reproducible, attributed to power issues online but... definitely not in this case
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<iximeow> issue #3: even when aligned and working "correctly" there's a very slight drift w.r.t whatever i'm trying to look at (this will make operating it at ~20000mm focal length very tricky...)
<Qboid> [#3] title: Porting geometry to c++ | | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/3
<egg> thuboid
<iximeow> !wpn Qboid
* Qboid gives Qboid a monopolar pulse generator
<egg> UmbralRaptop: theropod is a good dog https://twitter.com/roysmeding/status/1003054470534778880
<kmath> <roysmeding> good dog https://t.co/L9gNeCm8fk
<UmbralRaptop> “We would have no reason to expect 1-eV sterile neutrinos,” said Matthew Buckley, a particle physicist at Rutgers University. “Not that this has stopped the universe from adding new particles in the past.”
* iximeow eyebrow
<UmbralRaptop> egg: corvid!
<bofh> UmbralRaptop: LOL
<UmbralRaptop> iximeow: I'm convinced that he's subtweeting muons.
<iximeow> UmbralRaptop: i must be missing some context
<UmbralRaptop> also, "The muon was so unexpected that, regarding its discovery, Nobel laureate Isidor Isaac Rabi famously quipped, “Who ordered that?”"
<iximeow> lmao
<bofh> see also https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/1001854678550892557 (comic is from abstrusegoose)
<kmath> <bofh453> https://t.co/L8xY98563B
<bofh> so I found some old music from when I was in early undergrad and it has id3v2 tags in ShiftJIS and I feel like I need to repent to some deity right now
<UmbralRaptop> This is the sort of thing that summons @fakeunicode.
<bofh> UmbralRaptop: I just posted on twitter, let's see if it does.
<UmbralRaptop> hm
<bofh> also damn for 320mp3 this is *really* good, I think this was using that custom LAME hack I wrote (entirely psymodel tweaks/modifications) before I switched to HE-AACv1
<bofh> like I'm not used to 320mp3 being this listenable, should try & see if I still have that code somewhere