egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<UmbralRaptop>
Maybe.
<UmbralRaptop>
Anyway, pressure here seems to be 17 kPa lower than VA.
<iximeow>
egg: what rfc were you swindled into commenting on?
<kmath>
<UkiyaSeed> The Philippines' Department of Science and Technology (DOST) took the "Is this a pigeon?" meme by citing the source… https://t.co/Zu7NLRPCek
<kmath>
<eggleroy> @ManishEarth Done; apologies for the wall of text, it turns out I had some technical remarks about NFKC in addition… https://t.co/IvEPvkRIjj
<egg|trappist|egg>
whitequark: how bad of a rabbit hole did I jump into here
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<bofh>
egg|trappist|egg: oh cool, this is a fascinating rad
<bofh>
read*
<egg|trappist|egg>
Fascinating radian
<bofh>
fascinating ㎭
<egg|trappist|egg>
bofh: also citations of three different versions of ISO/IEC 8652 in a discussion about Rust
<egg|trappist|egg>
not even trying to troll :-p
<bofh>
rofl
<bofh>
incredible
<bofh>
"(dig up your favourite pile of astronomical FORTRAN or FORTRAN-like C for entertaining examples)" accurate
<kmath>
<eggleroy> @ManishEarth As a side note, I am endlessly amused by “the documents referenced by the note in section 1 of ISO/IEC… https://t.co/aBZa3KPZWH
<egg|trappist|egg>
ohai whitequark
<whitequark>
hi
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<SilverFox>
getting into the absolutes of the human body and how it functions is very bad, don't do it, I'm dying, send help
<whitequark>
SilverFox: are you that kinda weird transhumanist person on twitter
<SilverFox>
wut
<SilverFox>
I barely use twitter
<iximeow>
whitequark: you might have to be more specific, there's a lot of those
<SilverFox>
I'm just programming a simulation of the human body, at a basic level, for medical use, but there's so much shit with just the heart to consider and I need absolute values to work with because "it gets bigger and smaller" doesn't quite tell me enough
<SilverFox>
whitequark, no, keep trying though, maybe you'll get it eventually
<whitequark>
nah the thought just stuck in my head and I had to ask
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<UmbralRaptop>
Yay, SAF
<egg|trappist|egg>
whitequark: why are you not a cat on GitHub though
<kmath>
<astrogrant> .@NASA Technology Readiness Levels: ⏎ ⏎ TRL1: What if there were Unicorns ⏎ TRL2: We have drawn a Unicorn ⏎ TRL4: We have… https://t.co/Evc8uMN7JU
<kmath>
<eggleroy> @ManishEarth It goes without saying that this list is far from exhaustive, see the de article (w for в), the it one… https://t.co/XxOSdirGbm
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<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: also in that same book a bit below, you have the inequality of Bunhiacopski
<egg|zzz|egg>
(the first one, since they call the second Bunhiacopski)
* bofh
snickers
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: ah googling Bunhiacopski autocorrects, to Bunhiacopxki
<egg|zzz|egg>
which actually makes sense
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<bofh>
Wait, /px/? Is that how you write an /f/?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: no, that's how you write [ps]
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: final [f] is not a thing
<egg|zzz|egg>
(syllable-final that is)
<egg|zzz|egg>
so the closest approximant is [p]
<egg|zzz|egg>
[f] *is* a thing, written ph, but initially
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: I would put an acute accent on that o in Bunhiacopxki tbh, but perhaps it is omitted in transliteration to reduce silliness, or perhaps the tones are not as I think
<egg|zzz|egg>
"C2: The optional coda C2 is restricted to labial, coronal, and velar stops and nasals /p, t, k, m, n, ŋ/, which cannot cooccur with the offglides /j, w/.
<egg|zzz|egg>
"
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: technically the xki is malformed (double consonant), but okay that's not hard to pronounce
<kmath>
<eggleroy> @ManishEarth Other fun Vietnamese transliterations of names of mathematicians include: Cô-si for Cauchy, Bu-nhi-a-c… https://t.co/otcqwjTE1O
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: oh, so consonant clusters of length 3 aren't a thing in Vietnamese?
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: they're not a thing at length 2 even (counting ʈʂ and tʰ as single consonants)
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: xk is stretching it already
<egg|zzz|egg>
but is pronounceable enough that people apparently don't write xơ-ki
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: technically there is one search result for his name written that way, so
<egg|zzz|egg>
wait no it finds sờ-ki, fun
<bofh>
still tempted to refer to them as Cheb-dawg & now also B-dawg.
<bofh>
(what *is* "dawg" in Viet?)
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: dog is chớ (damn it do i need to set up a viet telex input method on my machines now), not sure what dawg would be :-p
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: but again, "Cheb" cannot be a thing because b is not one of p t k m n ŋ
<kmath>
<eggleroy> (T(s?j|[xšr])|(Ts?c|C)h|Č|Ç|C[sz]?)[eê]b[îiıyư](s[jz]|sch?|[sc]h|[šșşsx])[ëéeo](ff?|[vwp]) ⏎ ⏎ Consistency: there is a… https://t.co/aR9v3paUYM
<kmath>
<UkiyaSeed> The Philippines' Department of Science and Technology (DOST) took the "Is this a pigeon?" meme by citing the source… https://t.co/Zu7NLRPCek
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: it's useful, I now know how to cite it properly.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: wait, sch?|[sc]h simplifies to s?c?h? right >_<
<egg|zzz|egg>
wait no
<egg|zzz|egg>
right, c for ш isn't a thing
<egg|zzz|egg>
s is though
<bofh>
Yeah, c def. isn't.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: I mean you never know
<egg|zzz|egg>
but it's not in the lists I had seen
<egg|zzz|egg>
right s?c?h? allows c and h in addition to sch?|[sc]h
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<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: fwiw google translate's viet TTS is decent (I occasionally find it weird, but because of the northern accent more than the TTSness of it); this is a good rendition of the pronunciation of the transliterations https://translate.google.com/#vi/en/Bu-nhi-a-c%E1%BB%91p-xki%0AC%C3%B4-si%0ATr%C3%AA-b%C6%B0-s%C3%A9p
<bofh>
egg|zzz|egg: ooh, thanks.
<egg|zzz|egg>
bofh: the "s" is [ʂ] in the southern accent, [s] in the northern; the southern reading is more appropriate for Чебышёв
<egg|zzz|egg>
2MASS?
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg: [2MASS] => Two Micron All Sky Survey
<egg|zzz|egg>
!acr -add:2MASSW 2 Micron All-Sky Survey Working database
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<kmath>
<✔kevinschawinski> I just remembered that I have an undergrad degree in mathematics. It’s weird how after a while you just forget these things...
<bofh>
UmbralRaptop: I mean that *exact* scenario happens to me often.
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<bofh>
In my defense, shifting fields between undergrad and grad will do that to you.
<SnoopJeDi>
bofh, I mean same
<SnoopJeDi>
modulo the shift
<bofh>
Like I'll be like "why the hell do I know [obscure complicated math thing]" and then I remembered I snorted a lot of Operator Algebras/Harmonic Analysis on LCA Groups back in the day.
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark a scary pion which vaguely resembles a corvid
<kmath>
<cgranade> Your fave is problematic ≡ the Nash and Pareto optimal solutions for the unproblematic objective do not in general… https://t.co/gWDM9eCpJI
<kmath>
<✔HiRISE> We've never been confused about lightning on Jupiter. "Juno Solves 39-Year Old Mystery of Jupiter Lightning"… https://t.co/I9Cj3ud2hx
<egg|zzz|egg>
UmbralRaptop: in particular with "TRAPPIST-1e cannot accommodate a H2-dominated atmosphere at all", considering that that's the one gregox made the home planet
* Qboid
gives UmbralRaptop an unapologetic 555 timer with a com.sun.java.swing.plaf.nimbus.InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState attachment
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn bofh
* Qboid
gives bofh a corpuscule/package hybrid
<bofh>
!wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid
gives egg|zzz|egg a lugubrious geodesic
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* UmbralRaptop
drops an Eclipse on Qboid from 10 m up.
<UmbralRaptop>
(Which is heavier, the car by Mitsubishi, or the IDE?)
<bofh>
OH MY GODS com.sun.java.swing.plaf.nimbus.InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState IS A REAL JAVA SWING CLASS
* iximeow
squints
<bofh>
UmbralRaptop: the IDE
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn коте
* Qboid
gives коте a partially-ordered demon
<UmbralRaptop>
bofh: we like accuracy in our jokes.
<UmbralRaptop>
Okay, Owens 2016 says that extended H/He envelopes are possible.
<egg|zzz|egg>
but hey, the way I learned to code "doesn't seem like that much of a problem" so there's that,
* egg|zzz|egg
is not that much of a problem
<egg|zzz|egg>
what years is this
<UmbralRaptop>
5778
<UmbralRaptop>
The other Owens paper cited suggests that it's a possibility.
<egg|zzz|egg>
earth dog
<UmbralRaptop>
Earth dog?
<iximeow>
egg: fwiw i think his intended meaning might be different than your reading
<egg|zzz|egg>
iximeow: no I get the meaning, it's just the wording
<UmbralRaptop>
3.141 is an impressively silly approximation.
<iximeow>
hm
<iximeow>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg a central handle
<egg|zzz|egg>
iximeow: "not much of a problem" to face the increasingly far-fetched hypothetical consequences of adding a feature that has been there in other languages since early 2000s, whereas, since this was instrumental in me learning to program, I'd rather say that it's a problem if a language thinks the world breathes ASCII
<iximeow>
oh i entirely agree
<egg|zzz|egg>
!choose cite ERFA|that way madness lies
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg: Your options are: cite ERFA, that way madness lies. My choice: cite ERFA
<egg|zzz|egg>
okay
<egg|zzz|egg>
ERFA?
<Qboid>
egg|zzz|egg: [ERFA] => Essential Routines for Fundamental Astronomy
<UmbralRaptop>
bleah, 302 K out.
<bofh>
Yuck :(
<UmbralRaptop>
Upside: 8% humidity.
<UmbralRaptop>
Unsure: pressure is 80 kPa.
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