egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<kmath> <johncarlosbaez> The exceptional Jordan algebra, built from octonions, was discovered in research on foundations of quantum mechanic… https://t.co/tm5xZQPPcd
<kmath> <jhtripleu> my name is catte, ⏎ the prynters pet. ⏎ i give my aid ⏎ when type is sette. ⏎ i ynk my paw ⏎ and wyth a look ⏎ at prynter man,… https://t.co/K7rJKJYwgO
<UmbralRaptor> I thought this was a real place at CERN? https://twitter.com/jgerity/status/1012143374860681217
<kmath> <jgerity> @scanlime Friend of mine once pitched a geek-chic bar named ħ and I'm still unsettled about it
<SnoopJeDi> ooh is it?
<SnoopJeDi> I've only been to the museum portion of the campus because the website liiiieeed about tour hours
<SnoopJeDi> No big loss though, traveling across Switzerland was fun, and the exhibits are neat. The hands-on Rutherford experiment is the one I remember best
<UmbralRaptor> As in a Geiger counter and a source of alphas?
<SnoopJeDi> I think they had a digital readout but yea basically
<SnoopJeDi> It was very sandboxed, the patron could only manipulate the axle to rotate the foil
<UmbralRaptor> ah
<UmbralRaptor> hah
<SnoopJeDi> huh, 1 is a weird way to write λf.λx.fx
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* UmbralRaptor suspected that those proofs were correct once you got to some alternate set of numbers.
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn -add:wpn woodpecker
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Weapon added!
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<kmath> <diodelass> ME [at a party, slightly drunk]: okay. get up youtube, I got a drinking game we gotta play ⏎ FRIENDS: oh no, your gam… https://t.co/DqU9tRjmSy
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<egg|zzz|egg> !seen bofh
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I last saw bofh on [28.06.2018 00:36:06] in #kspacademia saying: "https://twitter.com/johncarlosbaez/status/1011995985642319873 whoa holy crap"
<kmath> <johncarlosbaez> The exceptional Jordan algebra, built from octonions, was discovered in research on foundations of quantum mechanic… https://t.co/tm5xZQPPcd
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<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4: #1865
<Qboid> [#1865] title: Reunification of the egg and ferram4 sector | This is a follow-up of the work done in [Chasles](https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Change-Log#chasles) on #1413,... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/principia/issues/1865
<bofh> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a cathode ray black singularity
<kmath> <dtsbourg> Re-discovering buildings that aren't around anymore, like the Palais du Trocadéro in Paris which became the Palais… https://t.co/oYTPkAzV42
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: is there a way to compute h so that t.value + (t.error + h) = t_final, where t.value + t.error = t.value (all operations rounded to nearest ties even) https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/1867/files
<Qboid> [#1867] title: Make sure that the integrator complies with last_step_is_exact | Even if funky rounding would cause small over/undershoot.... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/1867
<bofh> uuuuuuuuuuugh.
<bofh> a few moments, this looks tricky.
<awang> Clamed proof to the Lindelöf hypothesis
* egg|zzz|egg stabs \"
<kmath> <whitequark> at this point im kind of curious just how far can i cool this apartment in the summer ⏎ can i do 10°C? 4°C? going low… https://t.co/wyFGm7gdY9
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: wouldn't the cats complain?
<bofh> RIP my notifications
<bofh> OTOH I had a thread go viral that's like, interesting stuff I like and not a stupid joke, so I'm still happy.
<bofh> awang: huh. I'm skeptical tho.
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* awang 🔪 logl
<awang> Um
<awang> !u 🔪
<Qboid> U+1F52A HOCHO (🔪)
<awang> Huh
<awang> Apparently I need a new font
<awang> Or a new terminal
<iximeow> i also see tofu
<iximeow> :(
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<UmbralRaptor> GNU unifont!
<UmbralRaptor> Should we tell the kitty the bad news about aerospace? https://twitter.com/profanegeometry/status/1012266525359628288
<kmath> <profanegeometry> consistent measurement systems are for aerospace engineers and people who don't need to fuck up literally everythin… https://t.co/h851VNOsst
<UmbralRaptor> *sad trombone* https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.10141
<awang> UmbralRaptor: :(
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<UmbralRaptor> Note to self: June 30 is a Saturday, not a Friday.
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: I mean "a galaxy lacking dark matter" seemed like a very weird claim to make in the first place, so I'm not surprised it could be resolved this way.
<UmbralRaptor> Yeah.
<UmbralRaptor> Revenants: now even more annoying!
<SnoopJeDi> oh man is Doom2016 Revenant doot a new one for you bofh? You have the wealth of a productive 2 years of memery to enjoy :D
<kmath> YouTube - Doot - E1M1 [Knee-Deep in the Doot]
<bofh> NICE.
<SnoopJeDi> also SonicClang's version of E1M1 for Classic Doom 3 was great >_>
<SnoopJeDi> all of his tracks were but that one was the most popular for obvious reasons
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<APlayer> Uh, I've got to make a presentation on resonance at school, and wondering about one thing... This graph shows an oscillation's amplitude versus the ratio of its natural frequency and the excitation frequency, for different damping factors: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Mplwp_resonance_Dmany.svg/600px-Mplwp_resonance_Dmany.svg.png
<APlayer> Shouldn't it have peaks where the excitation frequency is a whole number multiple of the natural frequency?
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<SnoopJeDi> 13:31 < terribot> Anyone play tennis and have a toaster and an oscope?
<SnoopJeDi> bless Markov chains for giving me that sentence
<SnoopJeDi> APlayer, nope. Did you look at the equation attached to that image? It explains arithmetically the origin of a single peak: (1-η) has only one zero
<SnoopJeDi> Thinking about pushing a person on a swing always helps me when I'm trying to reason about driven oscillators. ω/ω0=1 means I push (AND pull, since it's *sinusoidal*) at the 'right' times, but ω/ω0=2 is loosely two pushes and pulls per swing cycle, and that 'muddies' the system and limits the response (energy or swing height, if you like) I can achieve
<APlayer> Uh, I mean it the other way. Push once every second swing cylce
<APlayer> cycle*
<SnoopJeDi> well it's a *continuous* force, so the analogy is a bit broken
<SnoopJeDi> You have to imagine you're always pushing or pulling which is very unlike an actual swing >_>
<APlayer> Ah, it assumes a sinusoidal excitation signal
<APlayer> Got it
<SnoopJeDi> Right, that plot is showing a very specific excitation, but one that is very useful in general
<SnoopJeDi> Plots of RF cavity Q look a lot like that, for example
<SnoopJeDi> because we treat that as a *bunch* of driven oscillators at a whole spectrum of frequencies (hooray superposition!)
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<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a mad meganeuropsis
* egg wonders whether котя will eat it
<UmbralRaptor> Careful, it might eat one of the kittens.
<APlayer> SnoopJeDi: Okay, thank you very much, that settles things a bit
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<SnoopJeDi> APlayer, laser mode-locking is a *little* bit related to this but probably outside the realm of your presentation. Your intuition is right enough for the general problem, you can construct systems with multiple response peaks (see also optical combs)
<egg> !seen whitequark's cats
<Qboid> egg: Value cannot be null.
<APlayer> Hehehe
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<egg|phone|egg> !wpn
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<egg|phone|egg> Meow
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<iximeow> !meow egg|phone|egg
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<bofh> !meow iximeow
* Qboid meows at iximeow
<bofh> !meow egg|phone|egg
* Qboid meows at egg|phone|egg
<iximeow> ixi!meow
<kmath> <CatnGeek> @AndrewJacksonZA @bofh453 @phrawzty And my parents in law are living in the first window on the left. Twitter at it… https://t.co/3PevhFN7vU
<bofh> sometimes, rarely, twitter is actually awesome.
<iximeow> !! that is very cool
<SnoopJeDi> d-did that person just dox their parents
<bofh> I... guess? I doubt it'll cause anything to happen.
<SnoopJeDi> Oh yea almost certainly not
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<bofh> also parents in law, which is a bit different :P
<SnoopJeDi> I primed myself for concern, I'm reading eevee's patreon post atm, I hadn't realized she curtailed her net habits because of stalking :(
<bofh> Ahh. OH that explains a lot, depressingly :/
<SnoopJeDi> yea, I had wondered, but didn't poke her feed
<SnoopJeDi> Mentioned her in another channel (Löve came up) and someone pointed it out
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<bofh> I'm just kind of staring at that thread btw. "Here's a 1914 colour photo of a street in Paris." "Here's a photo of that *exact* spot in Paris from 30 minutes ago today, and it's honestly barely changed." "Oh hi I have relatives that live on that street."
<bofh> Like that's amazing.
<APlayer> I've just had to type "maximal amplitude" and it feels like this redundant term is redundant. But in fact, I think I have to word it this way
<SnoopJeDi> "But mark well, when thou receivest good, so equally art bound to return good threefold."
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<UmbralRaptop> *boing*
* APlayer gives UmbralRaptop internet
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:wpn internet
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Weapon added!
* APlayer gives SnoopJeDi intranet
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:wpn intranet
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Weapon added!
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:wpn Metal Gear
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Weapon added!
<SnoopJeDi> (I considered "weapon to surpass Metal Gear" but that's a bit much)
<APlayer> What is "Metal Gear" in this context?
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<APlayer> That backfired
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<SnoopJeDi> APlayer, Metal Gear is a game series loosely about a walking nuclear railgun tank thingy that is something like 30 years old now, and known for being a bit ridiculous.
<APlayer> Oh
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<SnoopJeDi> But also with Very Strong Opinions™ about nuclear weapons and war/global politics in general.
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<SnoopJeDi> It's probably a dead series now, though. The creative mind behind it (Hideo Kojima) left Konami.
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<bofh> how bad of an idea would it be to put a small amount of radium paint in a ring you wear?
<APlayer> I guess it would generally be a worse idea than not applying radium paint
<bofh> well, yes, but is its specific activity high enough to measurably affect, say, osteosarcoma risk?
<bofh> "In the early history of the study of radioactivity, the different natural isotopes of radium were given different names. In this scheme, 223Ra was named actinium X (AcX), 224Ra thorium X (ThX), 226Ra radium (Ra), and 228Ra mesothorium 1 (MsTh1)." tag yourself I'm Mesothorium 1.
<APlayer> Not sure, and as much as I'd like to find out, it's really late. I'm afraid I need to leave :-(
<APlayer> Bye, and I'd appreciate a ping in the future if you find out!
<bofh> Will do!
<SnoopJeDi> bofh, have you considered tritium btw?
<UmbralRaptor> ^
<SnoopJeDi> not tenable for completely arbitrary geometry, but pretty good at light!
<SnoopJeDi> and mayyyybe you can find small discs or something suitable?
<bofh> SnoopJeDi: problem is it's liquid and so containing it is a lot harder in a small space
<SnoopJeDi> yea :/
<bofh> also christ, 5.85ct is a larger gemstone than I was expecting.
<bofh> (since, like, otherwise it'd be perfect)
<bofh> I should find out what specific activity I need to get Ce+3:YAG to scintillate, apparently you don't need much.
<SnoopJeDi> ooh did you receive it?
<bofh> Yep!
<SnoopJeDi> :D
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<UmbralRaptor> ooh
<kmath> <✔Alex_Parker> Floppiness mitigated in subsequent flights by judicious application of paper clips and a lanyard. https://t.co/GFRPoyxLYy
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<awang> Hmmm
<awang> Apparently VS 2017 15.8 fixes std::aligned_storage
<awang> And refuses to compile anything using std::aligned_storage unless some macro is defined
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<SnoopJeDi> TIL the word wissenschaft. Stumbled onto a thesis about GA optimization of LHC magnets
<kmath> <3liza> its time to address those three little words every girl wants to hear: ⏎ ⏎ load bearing drywall
<SnoopJeDi> that is a good thread
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: aaaaaaaaa
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: I think the load-bearing plumbing scares me the most, honestly.
<UmbralRaptor> Why would anyone intentionally do that outside of "1.25x is a sufficiently large safety margin" aerospace?
<UmbralRaptor> (Do balloon tanks count as load bearing plumbing?)
<kmath> <amirzulkifle> Just remember your soulmate out there is doing the same stupid awkward thing you’re doing right now https://t.co/Tt9uc29VhD
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: UHM
<bofh> also I have no idea
<kmath> <mattieuMattieu> @stephentyrone @johnregehr @whitequark @FioraAeterna My house had a load-bearing sewer pipe - 6" cast iron, so I gu… https://t.co/g7zWKP9rDT
<mlbaker> bofh: I just woke up to a realization
<bofh> mlbaker: oh?
<mlbaker> there needs to be an anime about Noam Chomsky
<bofh> oh of course there does
<bofh> ...actually why *isn't* there one already?
<bofh> also why the hell am I suddenly reminded of Jormungand?
<mlbaker> yeah, i opened google and i was like "this surely exists, i mean, japan"
<mlbaker> was disappointed :(
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: no, seriously about that 1.25x. That's the structural factor that NASA requires to crew-rate a launcher.
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: I'm not questioning that at all, I know it is.
<bofh> 22:41:04 <@UmbralRaptor> (Do balloon tanks count as load bearing plumbing?)
<bofh> This was what got my comment^ :P
<UmbralRaptor> ah
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<egg> !wpn bofh, mlbaker, UmbralRaptor, whitequark, et al.
* Qboid gives bofh, mlbaker, UmbralRaptor, whitequark, et al. an oxidizing cheque
<egg> !wpn -add:adj load-bearing
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<mlbaker> !wpn -add:adj bear-loading
<Qboid> mlbaker: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn boss
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg && mlbaker
* Qboid gives egg && mlbaker a Riemann string
<egg> !meow mlbaker
* Qboid meows at mlbaker
<mlbaker> !meow Qboid
* Qboid meows at Qboid
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:wpn excess
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Weapon already added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj excessive
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj intensive
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective already added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -add:adj insufficient
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn stats
* Qboid gives stats a Markov hull
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn stat
* Qboid gives stat a moral alias with a plasma attachment
<UmbralRaptor> grr
<SnoopJeDi> I think it's -stats
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn -stats
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor: Total weapons: 1089. Total adjectives: 1241. Total possible combinations: 7313223010995.
<mlbaker> how on earth are there so many combinations? |AxB| = |A| |B|, no?
<SnoopJeDi> mlbaker, it's not just <adj> <wpn> but I don't really know how it works.
<UmbralRaptor> ^
<UmbralRaptor> eg: * Qboid gives stat a moral alias with a plasma attachment
<UmbralRaptor> 2 wpns, 1 adj
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, isn't that 1 wpnj 2 adj? Moral and plasma?
<egg> nah plasma is a wpn
<UmbralRaptor> Nah, that's plasma as a weapon. Compare:
<egg> !wpn mlbaker
* Qboid gives mlbaker a Sagan
<UmbralRaptor> * Qboid gives whitequark a tantalum amphibious pin
<UmbralRaptor> <@UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|work|egg
<UmbralRaptor> * Qboid gives egg|work|egg a chi boron paint with a magma attachment
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Hamilton 🔫
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a phfor 𝗖𝗔𝗧𝗚𝗜𝗥𝗟
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a keen endpoint
<UmbralRaptor> This also demonstrates adj adj wpn
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a catenoid
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Markov pharmacy
<egg> hmm
<UmbralRaptor> !choose catenoid|catgirl