17:37 <Talvid> Afternoon all

17:40 <xShadowx> trolling propaganda is not allowed, and its clearly morning :P

17:41 <Talvid> (I'll ask if someone knows of a way, i'd love a response) Looking to learn how to configure nodes

17:41 <Talvid> haha... in your timezone maybe...

17:43 <Talvid> Figured out CFG,s making the models, and of course getting them in game... just one having one hell of an issue getting the connection nodes done.

19:10 <xShadowx> if you mean the attach nodes for parts to connect, its node_stack_whatiwanttonamemynode = X,Y,Z,rotX,royY,rotZ,size use the mk1 podin squad folder as an example, generally nodes are in the cdnter and just change by height, so 0,1,0 or 0,-1,0 for ex, decimals is allowed ofc, then set rotation as nodes act like magnets sort, N connects to S kinda thing, N wont connect to N

19:12 <xShadowx> size dont have to state, itll default to i think 1, but you can do 0-3, bigger nodes hold stronger :)

21:39 <Talvid> evening, anyone home?

21:49 <xShadowx> Talvid: nope

21:49 <xShadowx> oh you left before my reply ;3

21:50 <xShadowx> if you mean the attach nodes for parts to connect, its node_stack_whatiwanttonamemynode = X,Y,Z,rotX,royY,rotZ,size use the mk1 podin squad folder as an example, generally nodes are in the cdnter and just change by height, so 0,1,0 or 0,-1,0 for ex, decimals is allowed ofc, then set rotation as nodes act like magnets sort, N connects to S kinda thing, N wont connect to N

21:50 <xShadowx> size dont have to state, itll default to i think 1, but you can do 0-3, bigger nodes hold stronger :)

21:52 <i_rinix> xShadowx, are you on Freenode?

21:54 <xShadowx> nupe

21:54 <xShadowx> this be where the ksp devs go, no need to be anywhere else :)

21:54 <xShadowx> rather ksp modding devs, but ya

21:56 <Talvid> yeah sorry, i switched to a IRC client and forgot how to join another chan

21:57 <Talvid> i get the the XYZ idea, but what is the unit? is it based on the 1.25/2.5... or a % of the part

21:57 <xShadowx> /join #kspistheonlychanthatmatters ;3

21:58 <xShadowx> the former, its coords not %

21:58 <Talvid> It's been years since i've used IRC lol

21:59 <Talvid> ok, sounds better then a % of the part... now if i can figure out why every part is 10000% sized within 3ds max

21:59 <xShadowx> and rotation is vectors, -1 to 1

21:59 <xShadowx> size 0-3

22:00 <xShadowx> wish they didnt hardcode 3 as the limit

22:00 <xShadowx> also wish it was decimal not integer ;\

22:00 <i_rinix> xShadowx, yeah, but espernet is so snowflakey.

22:01 <xShadowx> i_rinix: never had a problem with it, only people i seen with a problem were people who got banned from a channel lol

22:03 <Talvid> another silly question, when exporting parts, i can only get the game to recognize a png texture... would much rather use dds, any sugestions?

22:03 <Talvid> (rather new at this)

22:04 <xShadowx> no clue, thats someone-else and, my model editing / exporting was using blender + mu script

22:05 <Talvid> so you don't use Unity?

22:05 <xShadowx> i do, but not for that

22:07 <xShadowx> and from what i remember game just loads texture of name.* searching dds, jpg, png, i think still tga, so if it works fine by png, converting to dds should prolly work

22:07 <xShadowx> without changing model

22:08 <Talvid> I'll have to try

22:08 <xShadowx> theres a dds conerter floating around somewhere for ksp - but id keep the png as dev copy, convert/test a dds for final release

22:08 <i_rinix> Anyone know how to hook into B9 texture changer?

22:09 <xShadowx> 'hook into'? to add more texture choices or ? (never used it)

22:15 <Talvid> have not used B9 texture changer before.. but i have messed around with ... i think its fuel switch's version

22:15 <i_rinix> to use it in a seperate mod to offer texture choices for your parts.

22:15 <Talvid> its finiky though

22:48 <Talvid> is there a way to add a line break in the description of a part?

23:19 <taniwha> Talvid: re attach nodes, my blender .mu exporter can handle them for you

23:19 <taniwha> (you model them into your model, provide a suitable .cfg.in file, and when you export, a .cfg with the attach nodes inserted is generated)

23:20 <Talvid> Is this different from the one i picked up form some forum post or is it different

23:20 <taniwha> io_object_mu

23:20 <taniwha> https://github.com/taniwha/io_object_mu

23:20 <Talvid> NODE

23:20 <Talvid> {

23:20 <Talvid> transform = node_bottom

23:20 <Talvid> size = 1

23:20 <Talvid> name = node_stack_bottom

23:20 <Talvid> method = FIXED_JOINT

23:20 <Talvid> }

23:21 <Talvid> does it do it like that or normal

23:21 <taniwha> normal

23:22 <taniwha> could make it do that style, though

23:22 <taniwha> I'd entirely forgotten such existed

23:23 <Talvid> I learn best by seeing how others have done things, so i've looked at loads and loads of cfg files lol

23:23 <taniwha> yeah :)

23:24 <Talvid> (happened to be fixing up some parts I "made" using other mods models) i do not plan on distributing any non-original parts of course

23:24 <Talvid> lol thats if i even distribute what i'm trying to make on my own lol.

23:26 <taniwha> yup, can definite make it generate NODE{}s

23:30 <taniwha> definitely

23:30 <taniwha> good grief, I can't type of late

23:31 <Talvid> blender isn't one of those programs i've had much experience with, I'm a 3ds Max guy

23:38 <Talvid> ok... i feel like a real nub for asking but how do i "generate NODE{}s"

23:41 <taniwha> in blender? create an empty and name it something starting with node_

23:42 <taniwha> then in the empty data panel, you'll get an option for setting the size

23:43 <taniwha> I really need to do a tutorial for my exporter

23:44 <Talvid> a video one would be great! lol. have trouble learning though reading...

23:44 <Talvid> I've taught myself a lot because I really can not learn though 50 pages of text

23:45 <Talvid> (fatal flaw)

23:45 <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/node-dev.png

23:45 <taniwha> just added the method/rigid and rigid(?!?) fields

23:46 <taniwha> (one is supposed to be crossfeed)

23:46 <taniwha> ah, just named incorrectly

23:47 <taniwha> Talvid: note that in blender z determines the orientation of the node

23:48 <taniwha> er, I think

23:48 <taniwha> yes

23:48 <Talvid> but once i have it on the model (still trying to find the "Attach Node" part) how do i translate that into the node info in the cfg?

23:48 <Talvid> oh.. its dinner time bbl

23:49 <taniwha> heh, I need to have breakfast :)