raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Gateaux. We currently target 1.8.1, 1.9.1, and 1.10.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-> [​experimentalshells?]. — (egg is not playing principia)
<discord-> e​gg. — Huh
<umbralraptop> 🥚
<discord-> e​gg. — Did that get unset?
<umbralraptop> (annoyingly, there is no robin emoji. Though I guess it would need a variation-selecter to choose what kind)
<discord-> e​gg. — it seems to be set from here
<discord-> e​gg. — maybe I’m not playing principia when I’m on my phone
<discord-> l​pg. — it's set from here
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<discord-> r​engress. — Hey quick question, so principia simulates sun synchronous orbits through precession right? I'm wondering if the effect stays over time when you switch away from the vessel
<discord-> r​engress. — because if you look here, I have an orbit that precesses right and it is over the day/night terminator
<discord-> r​engress. — But when I came back from playing another mission, it had significantly drifted away from that point?
<discord-> r​engress. — Is it an accumulation of errors/drift?
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2797: Adhere to the semantics of stop_token::stop_requested - https://git.io/JkypX
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/Jk9kL
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy 1036ffe - Adhere to the semantics of stop_token::stop_requested.
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy b28f6ec - Merge pull request #2797 from pleroy/DefaultedStopToken Adhere to the semantics of stop_token::stop_requested
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<discord-> D​amien. — @rengress show orbit in earth centered sun aligned
<discord-> D​amien. — That should sit on the terminator except for the North and South Pole area which will appear to oscillate because of the seasons
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] LivacoNew starred Principia - https://git.io/JkHzp
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<discord-> A​l2Me6. — SSO depends on Earth's geopotential model - it's not going to work on Kerbin.
<discord-> e​gg. — Yeah what we are seeing in @rengress’s screenshots isn’t the nodal precession of the orbit, it is the rotation of the planet ; that’s in KCKF assuming that this is Kerbin
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2783: Orthogonal decomposition - https://git.io/JkfGq
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 9 commits to master [+1/-0/±49] https://git.io/JkHim
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin bcbb78b - orthogonal decomposition
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin 581b537 - space
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin 18ba8fb - index the whole thing, not every other element
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #2603: Automated primary detection - https://git.io/Jf99i
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin reopened pull request #2603: Automated primary detection - https://git.io/Jf99i
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2603: Automated primary detection - https://git.io/Jf99i
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 13 commits to master [+47/-1/±215] https://git.io/JkHSR
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin 17aba3c - auto-detect the primary, albeit quite slowly
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin 1fb3d76 - make it faster and remove the unused parameter
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin 621c9f0 - blank line
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<discord-> D​amien. — Ah, didn't realise it was kerbin
<discord-> S​kylar. — Yeah, esp since this is RO discord xD
<discord-> D​amien. — This channel is a bit of a solar system agnostic zone but yeah it gets confusing sometimes
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #2798: Factor out the OrbitAnalyser::Analysis to OrbitAnalysis conversion - https://git.io/JkHjg
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<discord-> e​gg. — The eggzone
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<discord-> r​engress. — @egg You're the egg I come for
<discord-> r​engress. — @egg You're the egg I search for (edited)
<discord-> r​engress. — @egg You're the egg I reach for (edited)
<discord-> r​engress. — (made it less creepy lol)
<discord-> r​engress. — This is what it looks like after 10 days, it's not along the day/night divider anymore. Hence my question
<discord-> r​engress. — The other side
<discord-> r​engress. — (I made it KCI to make it less confusing)
<discord-> e​gg. — well yes, because it’s not precessing because Kerbin is spherical, and Kerbin still revolves around the Sun
<discord-> e​gg. — your orbit is not sun-synchronous, it just happened to be over the terminator at one point
<discord-> r​engress. — I thought it would precess accurately in stock?
<discord-> e​gg. — bring up the orbit analyser
<discord-> r​engress. — Here you go!
<discord-> e​gg. — What do you mean by « accurately » ? Kerbin is not the Earth, things are not going to behave as if it were ; in particular Kerbin is not oblate
<discord-> e​gg. — as the analyser tells you, your orbit does not precess (note the 0°.00 per Kerbin day for nodal precession)
<discord-> r​engress. — Yup, just saw that
<discord-> r​engress. — So is there a way to make it sun synchronous in stock
<discord-> e​gg. — nope, because Kerbin is not oblate
<discord-> r​engress. — thanks for teaching me btw
<discord-> e​gg. — you could patch things so Kerbin is oblate
<discord-> r​engress. — Right, because precession is due to the uneven summation of g across the orbit
<discord-> r​engress. — ooooooooooh
<discord-> e​gg. — there is an MM patch for that somewhere far in the backlog
<discord-> r​engress. — *nods*
<discord-> r​engress. — perhaps pinning it might be helpful? Because it has been asked for a grand total of 4 times with the word "oblate"
<discord-> r​engress. — Thank you so much tho, I appreciate the fact that you're patient enough to teach
<discord-> r​engress. — I mentioned you to a friend who runs a space company btw
<discord-> e​gg. — as @Damien puts it, every day is a school day here :-p
<discord-> r​engress. — lol you're a good teacher
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<discord-> F​abioKevin. — Hey, what was the button which showed the stock manuever node completion bar? Asking because I cannot find it in principia in my JNSQ save
<discord-> e​gg. — **Important notice**: there is a bug in Fáry which makes manoeuvres run away from you as time passes. As a workaround, set the history length to something long. https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/2154 (edited)
<discord-> F​abioKevin. — I just realized why. I'm an idiot
<discord-> B​utcher. — Meanwhile I left a spent lander in a low orbit, it lasted a day.