#principia on 2020-12-31 — irc logs at esper.irclog.whitequark.org

2020-12-16 21:43 egg changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Гельфонд. We currently target 1.8.1, 1.9.1, and 1.10.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large

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03:38 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — first moon orbit with Principia!

03:38 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/794046759977746442/KSP_x64_0V69UHeLtE.jpg

03:59 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — first moon orbit with Principia! Ap is 165km as Pe is 20km (recreating the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission) (edited)

03:59 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/794046759977746442/KSP_x64_0V69UHeLtE.jpg

03:59 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — safe to say that im getting the hang of this mod

04:13 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — safe to say that im getting the hang of this mod, but i still have plenty to learn (edited)

04:42 <raptop> Including getting into a frozen orbit?

04:42 <raptop> (not a jab. It's possible and cool)

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05:36 <discord-> moar ssto. — in 1.9, deep atmospheric solar probes should be possible

05:37 <discord-> moar ssto. — then they squad patched that.

05:38 <discord-> moar ssto. — upper atmosperic probes just skimming the top of the atmo should be still possible though

05:41 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — so, my first moon orbiter just smashed into the moon

05:41 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — i guess the Pe was too low lmao

05:41 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — Mascons

05:42 <raptop> Hrm, what was the time frame for the crash?

05:44 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — oh jeez idk

05:44 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — i was off doing something else in the game

05:44 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — it was up for like 14 days or so

05:44 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — but the perigee was 20km so it was super low, basically scraping the terrain

05:48 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — guess its time to send up a replacement lol

05:50 <raptop> ah

06:14 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — welp replacement is up, now its higher and now in a polar orbit

06:14 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/794086152633581578/unknown.png

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09:30 <discord-> Butcher. — @CaptainKeeble bear in mind that rss terrain is higher than real life.

09:30 <discord-> Butcher. — Because we have to force it all above the reference datum or you "splash down".

10:29 <UmbralRaptop> ah, right. Maria

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10:53 <discord-> egg. — @CaptainKeeble use the orbit analyser to figure out if your orbit drifts

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13:06 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2830: Exact mathematica - https://git.io/JLQyO

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13:11 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2829: Make mathematica_test a little less brittle - https://git.io/JL992

13:11 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 8 commits to master [+0/-0/±29] https://git.io/JLQyB

13:11 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin 60eee8e - Make mathematica_test a little less brittle

13:12 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin 0378350 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'la-vache/master' into just-say-no-to-goldens

13:12 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin f6c8859 - the goldens keep coming

13:12 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] ... and 5 more commits.

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13:13 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] RobotSquid forked the repository - https://git.io/JLQyu

13:16 <discord-> egg. — @Butcher so we’ve been getting a lot of reports of that « the entire game stops drawing itself » bugs in the past 24 hours, and essentially none prior to that—in particular when we actually released Гельфонд. I am wondering whether there might be some other mod that has updated recently?

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13:32 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] RobotSquid forked the repository - https://git.io/JLQyu

13:43 <discord-> Butcher. — I have not updated anything else recently.

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15:02 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2830: Exact mathematica - https://git.io/JL9dc

15:02 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 11 commits to master [+0/-0/±28] https://git.io/JLQHp

15:02 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin b49784e - make ToMathematica exact for floating-point numbers

15:02 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin aefac16 - Merge branch 'just-say-no-to-goldens' into exact-mathematica

15:02 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin ff96a20 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'la-vache/master' into exact-mathematica

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15:09 <discord-> Ashnoom. — I wonder Egg. Do you type those names yourselves? Or do you have a cheatsheet somewhere and just copy-paste when required? 😮

15:14 <discord-> egg. — I have keyboard layouts for latin, greek, cyrillic, and sumero-akkadian cuneiform; the rest I copy-paste

15:15 <discord-> (experimentalshells?). — something like this, I presume?

15:15 <discord-> (experimentalshells?). — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/794222113552334868/unknown.png

15:15 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2826: Mathematica output of DoublePrecision - https://git.io/JLStW

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15:20 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2826: Mathematica output of DoublePrecision - https://git.io/JLStW

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15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2826: Mathematica output of DoublePrecision - https://git.io/JLStW

15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±23] https://git.io/JLQ56

15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 8b71763 - Logging of DoublePrecision.

15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 5572531 - Merge.

15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 58ae2ab - Exact double precision.

15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 5316ec0 - Merge pull request #2826 from pleroy/MmaDoublePrecision Mathematica output of DoublePrecision

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15:47 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2835: Tolerances for macOS and Linux - https://git.io/JLQ5P

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15:48 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2835: Tolerances for macOS and Linux - https://git.io/JLQ5P

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16:42 <discord-> egg. — basically, except they are all custom keyboards or IMEs

16:45 <discord-> egg. — (and I should clean up the inconsistency in the names of the Grek and Cyrl layouts)

16:45 <discord-> egg. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/794244738035220510/unknown.png

16:45 <discord-> egg. — (my Akkadian IME pretends it’s Syriac because the input method APIs don’t support arbitrary language codes)

16:47 <discord-> (experimentalshells?). — of course you're the person to use dvorak keyboard layout. very interesting.

16:48 <discord-> CaptainKeeble. — Ah I didn’t know that. Thanks

16:56 <discord-> KuzuCevirme. — Hi guys

16:56 <discord-> KuzuCevirme. — İ have a question about principia

16:57 <discord-> KuzuCevirme. — Is there a mod that work with principia thats allowes me to create routes for l points gravity assist turns etc . Automaticly

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17:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2835: Tolerances for macOS and Linux - https://git.io/JLQ5P

17:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JLQNQ

17:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy a649313 - Correct expected value.

17:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 1c20ddb - Tolerances for macOS and Linux.

17:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy 365aef3 - Merge pull request #2835 from pleroy/Tolerances Tolerances for macOS and Linux

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17:50 <discord-> Stonesmile. — You can try ksptot, it's an external tool which supposedly supports n-body coasts

17:51 <discord-> Butcher. — It is clunky and awkward to use.

18:05 <discord-> Marsh. — NASA is also interested in a mod that does this

18:07 <discord-> egg. — I believe there is a competition for a mod that does this as well :-p https://sophia.estec.esa.int/gtoc_portal/

18:08 <discord-> Damien (it/that). — pretty sure you're half way there with principia lol

18:08 <discord-> Damien (it/that). — get making a front end for it

18:22 <discord-> Stonesmile. — Yeah, it could use a better front end than KSP 😆

18:44 <UmbralRaptop> So if Principia generated output files in the same format as MERCURY6…

18:49 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2836: Use CGS with reorthogonalization for frequency analysis - https://git.io/JLQpS

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18:56 <discord-> egg. — 🌍 🐮

18:57 <raptop> yep. also all hail the oblate megasun

18:59 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #2837: Update all predictions at the same time - https://git.io/JLQhL

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19:01 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin opened issue #2838: Add support for repeated strings in the interface - https://git.io/JLQhY

19:01 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin labeled issue #2838: Add support for repeated strings in the interface - https://git.io/JLQhY

19:01 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin assigned issue #2838: Add support for repeated strings in the interface - https://git.io/JLQhY

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19:24 <_whitenotifier-8975> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #2839: Separate getting the analysis from refreshing it - https://git.io/JLQhx

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19:53 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — Can you not do OL other language?

19:56 <discord-> Paculino (ŝi/ri/she/they). — n-way there

20:24 <raptop> OL?

20:24 <raptop> (Also for maximum silliness, the output should be a FITS table)

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