egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
<queqiao->
⟨lamont⟩ he's responsible for some of the convergence issues in PVG
<queqiao->
⟨lamont⟩ the functions that are terminal conditions and transversality conditions need to span a hilbert space, and if they don't, the solver will spin indefinitely and not find an optimal solution.
<queqiao->
⟨lamont⟩ also, all of graduate level QM
<queqiao->
⟨Vlood⟩ but is principia complete and decidable?🤔
<raptop>
dfajdsl;kgradir;
<queqiao->
⟨lamont⟩ cat?
<raptop>
Principia doesn't have a full set of commuting observables because it's doing classical mechanics
<queqiao->
⟨Vlood⟩ calm down, Gödel
<queqiao->
⟨lamont⟩ quantum principia when?
* raptop
would love a "Maxwell" update that has stuff like the Yarkovsky effect, light sails, etc, but that would be very high effort
<raptop>
lamont: no cat, just keysmashing
<queqiao->
⟨Milly⟩ How much harder is Principia than stock? I'm interested, but also slightly scared 😛
<queqiao->
⟨SpaceMarine⟩ once you learn it, its arguably easier
<queqiao->
⟨SpaceMarine⟩ the learning part is the hard part
<queqiao->
⟨Milly⟩ Yea, I've seen people like N9 using it and plotting v complex trajectories that I honestly couldn't do with stock, and he made it look easy
<queqiao->
⟨ProtonEnjoyer⟩ ⟪Milly⟫ Yea, I've seen people like N9 using it […] ⮪ because it is easy
<queqiao->
⟨Milly⟩ How much work did it take to make the transition for you ProtonEnjoyer?
<queqiao->
⟨ProtonEnjoyer⟩ ⟪Milly⟫ How much work did it take to make the […] ⮪ Not a lot. I just had to learn how to plot manuevers, and how to do TLI and interplanetary transfers
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⟨ProtonEnjoyer⟩ it is actually way easier than stock
<queqiao->
⟨Milly⟩ If I make a copy of my current save, and download Principia and use it on one of the saves, will the other save be fine if I basically explode my brain and uninstall it again? 😛
<queqiao->
⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ It is not advisable to add Principia to a save.
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Reason being it’ll move all the planets and any interplanetary craft will end up going nowhere
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⟨egg⟩ If you have nothing on a transfer orbit it should be mostly fine though.