<darsie>
http://0x0.st/ohIH.png Not sure which comet orbit is better for Kerbin capture. The big one has apparently no inclination and would require less dv for a Kerbin encounter. Not sure how different the orbital energies are, I guess not much.
<darsie>
MOID looks the same.
<darsie>
The smaller has 2-3 deg inclination, I guess.
<darsie>
Waiting hundreds of years could be an issue.
<darsie>
2.5 h at 100,000x for 100 years.
<packbart>
hm. moving time forward might work by setting UT in the save file.
<packbart>
but that won't spawn new asteroidal comets
<darsie>
Hmm, at that altitude the umbrella antenna might be too weak.
<darsie>
1.5 deg inclination.
<darsie>
exactly at Ap.
<darsie>
The bigger orbit has 0.8 deg inclination.
<darsie>
34.3 m/s if I want the comet in Kerbins equatorial plane.
<darsie>
Takes 502.5 m/s to shrink the big orbit to the smaller one ... via aerobraking ...
<darsie>
So 30 m/s plane change vs. 500 m/s aerobraking ...
<darsie>
I'll take the plane change.
<darsie>
Comets can be much larger that Asteroids with their class being in the range on class H which corresponds to 100's of thousands of tons, although it varies greatly.
<darsie>
So, 1 Mt for a class I comet?
<darsie>
I'll try 500 kt.
<Funkenstein>
I'm getting pretty good at making SSTSOTs
<darsie>
what?
<Funkenstein>
(single stage to sub-orbital trajectory)
<darsie>
lol
<Funkenstein>
Or possibly sub-orbital tragedy
<darsie>
I guess by suborbital you mean >70 km.
<Funkenstein>
I keep running out of fuel with my apodosis at 60-70km
<Funkenstein>
80 once
<Funkenstein>
Then re-entry, mostly safe landings
<Funkenstein>
I'm just trying to make an ssto
<darsie>
ic
<Funkenstein>
Very stable leaf-shaped planes, though
<Funkenstein>
First orbit from an ssto, with barely enough fuel to deorbit
<Althego>
lol why a phone picture
<darsie>
Hmm, 34.3 m/s is a 20 h burn for a 500 kt comet with 4 nervs ...
<Funkenstein>
Because I have no internet
<Funkenstein>
I don't want to transfer files via USB just fornthis
<Funkenstein>
Darsie maybe if you could pack a small extra engine to the comet
<darsie>
The nerv is probably the best comet pusher engine. 800 s Isp. I need 8 refineries to make the fuel for 4 nervs. Hmm, maybe I shoudl pack an engineer.
<darsie>
The best bipropellant engine has 380 Isp, so I'd need to make much more fuel for it. And it's not exactly small. Small engines do little to a big comet.
<darsie>
Hmm, that design was for a class I comet on escape trajectory. But here I have a class H comet going slightly beyond Eeloo's orbit ...
<darsie>
But actually I want a class I comet. They're so hard to find, though, and with their retrograde orbits I'd require much more dv. I might have to burn for months ...
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<Funkenstein>
I wish I could pick oxidizer only in my tanks
<Althego>
why
<darsie>
I'll fly my staff to Jool for experience.
<darsie>
Then i need to redesign my comet pusher.
<Althego>
but nothin is using oxidizer only. so there shouldnt be any situation where you need extra oxidizer
<darsie>
drain valve have thrust from oxidizer.
<Althego>
tiny
<darsie>
:)
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<Althego>
next one will be 8?
<darsie>
8?
<darsie>
gn
<Althego>
4 arrived, 2 quit
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<Funkenstein>
So I can have extra oxidizer when I flame out because I'm oxidizer deprived
<Althego>
but how
<Althego>
for jets?
<Funkenstein>
I haven't a clue
<Althego>
those are air breating, deal with it
<Althego>
that is why they are efficient
<Althego>
otherwise they would be worse than a rocket
<Althego>
because they have useless parts
<Funkenstein>
Answer: switching modes on that rapier with half a tank of fuel left
<Althego>
then you remove the extra fuel
<Althego>
and your delta v increases because you dont carry it around
<Funkenstein>
But ai want it for traveling once in orbit
<Althego>
replace extra fuel tanks with extra fuel-oxidizer tanks
<Althego>
you actually need very little extra fuel to get into orbit with an airbreathing ssto
<Funkenstein>
I have only one tank
<Funkenstein>
And a row of mk0
<Funkenstein>
I removed the mk0, I still get the same orbit with 100ms
<Funkenstein>
I've watched planty of Matt lowne you'd think I could at least get to minmus
<Funkenstein>
I hype up the NERV then can't get just rapiers out of lko
<raptop>
oops
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<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You screw maths, and brute-force it with a maneuver node and trajectories. You remember the times with things just couldn't go that badly.
<XXCoder>
yeah im fond of time I was good on math
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<Althego>
zombanwa
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<Funkenstein>
What is zombanwa
<Althego>
a zombie greeting
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<Funkenstein>
Is an insane marine vertebrate a cray fish
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<Funkenstein>
; mission
<Funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You explore the capabilities of sepratrons as RCS engines. Your second stage doesn't have enough DV.
<packbart>
!mission add You sub-contract station construction to an EVE Online player.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You sub-contract station construction to an EVE Online player.
<Azander>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You spice up your mission with Sriracha and Tabasco sauce. Your spaceship is haunted by Seth Rogen's ghost and all you hear is "huh huh huh"
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<darsie>
I reversed the audio from the Astronaut complex but couldn't make out any forward Spanish. I'm not a Spanish speaker, but the laughing sounded reverse and so did the music.
<darsie>
I even used headphones.
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<FLHerne>
;outcome add Val is put under medical supervision after experiencing a mild case of death.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Val is put under medical supervision after experiencing a mild case of death.
<raptop>
It's probably fine
<raptop>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You land your giant transit vehicle on its nozzles on the surface of Minmus. Jeb's EVA takes a wrong turn and leads to the destruction of the Mün.
<raptop>
That pair works surprisingly well
<FLHerne>
;mission add Your boss doesn't understand the concept of asynchronous communication -- annoying enough in normal email, but now you're on Duna...
<LunchBot>
Added mission: Your boss doesn't understand the concept of asynchronous communication -- annoying enough in normal email, but now you're on Duna...
<FLHerne>
;mission fixup s/Duna/Laythe/
<LunchBot>
New text is: Your boss doesn't understand the concept of asynchronous communication -- annoying enough in normal email, but now you're on Laythe...
<darsie>
A few Kerbals died on ascent because they didn't wear their helmet. I guess they took them off on their last mission and nobody told them to put them back on.
<FLHerne>
oops
<darsie>
Was just a mild case of death ;).
<raptop>
hah
<raptop>
!mission add You pry open the marble jaws of Oblivion.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You pry open the marble jaws of Oblivion.
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<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You set off to write an OS for your onboard computers. Pol germinates.
<XXCoder>
what
<raptop>
Look, the AI became self aware, and realized that it could use that pollen grain floating around jool to bring life to the universe