<FLHerne>
;outcome add It's as if the water is TRYING to exist... but can't.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: It's as if the water is TRYING to exist... but can't.
<raptop>
Oh, hey, an outcome to go with the impostor water mission
<FLHerne>
;outcome add YOU'RE WINNER !
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: YOU'RE WINNER !
<raptop>
yay
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<darsie>
ksp crashed
<raptop>
F
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<XXCoder>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You slice up an ice cream cone with a knife to find your orbit. "We know you broke some part of the Kerbal Aviation Act, and as soon as we decide which part it is, some type of charge will be filed. If you had a pilot's license, we'd suspend that. But you don't."
<XXCoder>
hmmm
<SporkWitch>
;mission add You forget to patch the cones.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You forget to patch the cones.
<FLHerne>
ah, Larry Walters
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<raptop>
!1mission
<raptop>
!mission
<LunchBot>
You outsource the assembly of your rockets to The Netherlands. You EVA home from the Mun.
<XXCoder>
interesting sequence
<XXCoder>
probably did suit only landing due to exporting too much
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<funkenstein>
I managed to get a Juno engine, a probe core, two av-r8 winglets, and a simple fin to 610m/s
<funkenstein>
It looks like I could fly all the way around Kerbin with that
<funkenstein>
Oh and a mk0 fuel tank
<Althego>
with 610 it takes a while
<Althego>
with 1200 it is tolerable
<raptop>
Oh, yeah, if you can get them through the transsonic regime, the Juno and Wheezley engines can get you surprisingly fast
<funkenstein>
Yeahhh it's sluggish but wow
<funkenstein>
640 now
<funkenstein>
And 800 in a death dive
<funkenstein>
1.2m in length
<funkenstein>
Yay, drones!
<funkenstein>
Wait, that was a technicality of the game as I launch it straight up. 2.2m in length and 1.2 in height
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<funkenstein>
What's that little dot by the KSC
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<funkenstein>
In and out, jeez
<raptop>
connection issues?
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<raptop>
I'll take that as a yes
<Althego>
"skill issue"
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<funkenstein>
Yeah basically, I don't have internet rn so I added esper to my phone and it doesn't stay connected for more than a couple of minutes
<funkenstein>
Not sure why
<funkenstein>
Makes me nutty
<raptop>
Guessing the tab getting killed or something
<Althego>
power saving probablt
<funkenstein>
Hm?
<funkenstein>
Odd
<Althego>
i always turn of this stupidity
<Althego>
because it never takes into account that irc or ssh is running and needs connection
<funkenstein>
Lame
<Althego>
oh user is not doing anything i guess i can cut power
* raptop
presses F to pay respects to AndChat, though I've got Revolution IRC on my phone if need-be
<Althego>
did it die?
<Althego>
no longer available on google play...
<funkenstein>
Ahaa it's a pillar with squad on it
<raptop>
yeah
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
you didnt know the monolith?
<Althego>
there are several of those
<raptop>
all hail the kerboliths
<Althego>
obviously a 2001 reference
<funkenstein>
Nah I kept noticing a lil speck to the left of the runway
<Althego>
there are many other easter eggs
<Althego>
on other bodies
<funkenstein>
I meant to check it out but I only now did
<funkenstein>
I see
<Althego>
there is a list on the wiki
<funkenstein>
I did find a moon arch
<Althego>
but you can discover them with satellite mapping function
<funkenstein>
Oh lol
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<funkenstein>
I landed by an arch that was broken and had glowing lights
<raptop>
The 1.12.5 arch
<Althego>
that is new
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<raptop>
(...has anyone checked to see if the other 2 have that?)
<funkenstein>
So if I fly by minmus using a rovemate as my command module I should be able to find whatever I i fly over
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<Althego>
not much on minmus
<funkenstein>
Mun, then
<funkenstein>
Or Kerbin?
<Althego>
kerbin, mun, duna, ike are better in that regards
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You duel-boot Linux and Windows. Had it been possible for anything to survive this event, there would have been a clear detection of gravioli.
<funkenstein>
Lol
<raptop>
hmm
<Althego>
;mission add You build a giant Orffyreus's wheel to satisfy your power needs.
<LunchBot>
Added mission: You build a giant Orffyreus's wheel to satisfy your power needs.
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<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You decide to show several tourists a sunrise on the Akatsuki Sea. The only sign of your demise is brief neutrino burst.
<Althego>
who knows it could work in ksp :)
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<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You dive deep into Jool in pursuit of helium-3. You decide to consult additional pythons.
<funkenstein>
I don't get why you explode at the same point every time you enter Jool. I think it should be possible to fly through Jool with the right rocket, or use RTGs to create a quadcopter-base that maintains altitude somewhere within Jool
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<funkenstein>
Any input?
<funkenstein>
About Jool I mean
<Althego>
what do you mean same point? altitude?
<funkenstein>
Yes. If it drifted a bit who cares
<Althego>
realistically in gas giants the increase of temperature and pressure would destroy everything as you go deep
<funkenstein>
Not THAT deep lol just a few thousand meters
<funkenstein>
Also I was thinking Verbally rather than realistically
<Althego>
depending on your settings there is a pressure limit on parts
<funkenstein>
There is.
<Althego>
without that as in the older games when it was not there, you can go down to altitude zero
<Althego>
maybe a bit below that too
<funkenstein>
I have no indication of the pressure is within jool
<Althego>
sure you do
<Althego>
the pressure instrument
<funkenstein>
I think the grip pads have the best pressure/speed of impact rating of the parts, theoretically you could contain the probe core within that
<Althego>
but t he game doesnt work like that
<Althego>
you cant build a pressure sealing box out of parts
<funkenstein>
But I just was thinking a rotor-maintained altitude around 2000m below the surface of the gas
<funkenstein>
I'm aware
<funkenstein>
Maybe I'm being daft but where is the pressure instrument
<Althego>
i think jool goes sup to 9 atmospheres at sea level
<funkenstein>
Not as bad as I expected
<Althego>
wiki says 15
<funkenstein>
I have difficulty stabilizing quadcopters, any advice?
<funkenstein>
YouTube was of limited assistance, I got plenty of helicopter tutorials
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<funkenstein>
;outcome add A lone tumbleweed rolls through space.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: A lone tumbleweed rolls through space.
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<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You attempt to get a bot to give you a straight answer. The Vallhenge is activated, and performs its primary function of [DATA EXPUNGED].
<LunchBot>
No mission found matching "surface of Jool".
<FLHerne>
hrm
<FLHerne>
;mission land on Jool
<LunchBot>
You accept a contract to land on Jool's surface.
<darsie>
Can the command seat be positioned somewhere so the 0.625 m heat shield protects a Kerbal from entry heat? http://0x0.st/o73G.png
<darsie>
I moved it back and forth with no success.
<SporkWitch>
i really think it just needs to be wider; even if you put the kerbal right on the heat shield i think he's still too tall to be covered entierly
<Althego>
heatshields dont even protect stuff adequately which are the same width as them
<darsie>
Works with the 1.5 m HS.
<darsie>
Although the okto2 got a bit hot that was attached to it.
<SporkWitch>
even worse with deadly reentry and mod parts, though part of that could be poor interactions with KSPIE (which after seeing that they apparently don't play nice with each other, i removed deadly reentry). With that, some of the modded command pods flare out a tiny bit so they just barely overhang the properly sized heat shield. Logically they should be covered, but since the game doesn't really
<SporkWitch>
simulate the shape of the shockwave, it causes it to not protect those modded pods, but the stock ones (which don't flare out) work fine with their proper size shield
<Althego>
this is what annoys me, if the air is deflected outside nothing that is the same width as the shield should be overheating
<darsie>
Some air molecules might pass through the deflection stream without collision.
<SporkWitch>
up to a certain distance; the protected area is going to be a teardrop shape, since the low pressure area behind the vessel will suck that plasma back in
<darsie>
Although the shocked air collides with itself, I think.
<SporkWitch>
that's why i'm thinking it's a height issue; kerbal's head is outside the protect area
<darsie>
Yeah, Kerbal is too big.
<Althego>
hehe bigheaded kerbal
<SporkWitch>
i mean, kerbals ARE like 50% head, in terms of height lol
<funkenstein>
Not what I was looking for about Jool but fascinating
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
In order to spite your elementary school teachers, you write in recursive handwriting instead of cursive. The result is very hammer.
<packbart>
Hammer, Digger
<funkenstein>
Hammerfell, Daggerfall, it's amazing they didn't call it Skydrop
<SporkWitch>
Morrowsink? Obliviunder?
<funkenstein>
Oblivion could be left as is lol
<SporkWitch>
Actually, obliviunder sounds like a harry potter spell... lol
<funkenstein>
That's where you go when you finish with all that dropping, falling, sinking, and droppinf
<funkenstein>
Lol a spell to remove the ground beneath a target
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<SporkWitch>
the new game looks like it might be neat. won't preorder, but will definitely check out some gameplay footage once it's out, probably pick it up if the combat looks good
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<funkenstein>
I was like "combat it ksp2
<funkenstein>
*combat in ksp2?"
<SporkWitch>
naw, the new harry potter game. That said, I fully expect weapons mods once KSP2 modding support comes in, ESPECIALLY since we'll have proper multiplayer
<funkenstein>
You thought you were going to launch a river to minmus? *pyeerrm* nope
<funkenstein>
Rover. My phone thinks rovers aren't real
<umaxtu>
the new HP game does look cool. shame about J K Rowling though
<funkenstein>
Jeb Kerman Rowling
<umaxtu>
and I've heard some criticisms about the plot being antisemitic
<funkenstein>
Yeah the goblins kinda hurt
<SporkWitch>
you've heard raving lunatics who thinks orthodox jews are literal nazis (not even kidding); pay them no mind
<Althego>
that 1.12.5 download was really slow
<SporkWitch>
bad connection? I have crappy Spectrum internet and it was pretty fast here. It was only a single model change, after all.
<funkenstein>
The goblins are painfully adherent to antisemitic stereotypes
<Althego>
no
<Althego>
i mean bad oon the server side
<SporkWitch>
the goblins resemble goblin stereotypes from mythology; the people saying they're analogues to jews are projecting their own antisemitism. Source: I'm a jew, I'm not offended by things clearly not intended to offend.
<Althego>
havent you learned that today everybody is offended by everything
<SporkWitch>
(and the bank they shot the scenes in the movie in is a real bank in london; they didn't photoshop the floor in, so you can't use that as an argument either)
<funkenstein>
I'm also Jewish and while I'm not wildly offended like some are I do find it cringeworthy
<SporkWitch>
Althego: i know it full well, it's why i'm calling out the criticisms umaxtu referred to as what it is
<funkenstein>
The floor?
<packbart>
in the Discworld, a typical dwarf song goes "Gold, gold, gold, gold, gold!"
<SporkWitch>
only cringey if you choose to take it that way
<SporkWitch>
yeah, the bank has a star of david on it; its' an actual bank in london
<funkenstein>
Dwarves have always been gold-driven and alcohol driven
<funkenstein>
Oh wow I never noticed that
<SporkWitch>
it's one of the arguments the nutters tried to use to say "see! see!"
<umaxtu>
I just think people are being premature. game can be made with terrible things happening if they take care.
<funkenstein>
If it's a good game no problem
<funkenstein>
It's her gender bollocks that I find most disappointing
<packbart>
I'd rather not buy any EA game, though ;)
<SporkWitch>
it's just absurd on its face, especially when the whole good/evil dynamic of the series is that the death eaters are the brownshirts calling for racial purity, and the rest are the Allies fighting against them
<funkenstein>
Yep lmao
<SporkWitch>
people are just salty because rowling, in her capacity as an individual, acknowledged the reality that biological sex exists. She's never attacked anyone, never shamed them, just pointed out the attacks and infringements on biological women, and for that she's canceled. the woke cult eats its own, like all extremeists, because no deviation from the party line can be tolerated.
<sandbox>
perhaps change the topic
<funkenstein>
Thanks
<umaxtu>
yeah, my bad
<packbart>
"published by Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment" - ah, ok. not EA then
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You throw a fit about not having the same privileges as your siblings, leading to interstellar war. You make two important discoveries in rapid succession: Your glasses have been on the floor all this time, and that marker you've been burning along is actually the retrograde one.
<SporkWitch>
packbart: i assumed you meant Early Access lol
<packbart>
nah, I meant Electronic Arts but that was just based on the first search results
<Althego>
ea is widely regarded one of the worst game publishers
<Althego>
if not the worst
<SporkWitch>
ah, yeah it's Warner Brothers who owns the rights. Think they're also the publisher on the lego harry potter games
<SporkWitch>
EA, actiblizzion, and Epic are in a three-way tie for me
<umaxtu>
at least EA finally figured out how to make a good star wars game
<SporkWitch>
if the microsoft acquisition of actiblizzion does go through, that might edge them ahead of the pack for worst
<packbart>
well, lucky us that KSP is published by Take Two
<Althego>
ingenuity flew again and then went back to airfield z. my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
<SporkWitch>
did take two buy private division? O.o
<sandbox>
EA seemed to improve for a short time... but that was about 15 years ago
<SporkWitch>
steam page still shows intercept as the dev and private division as the publisher...
<umaxtu>
they've ditched the "single player games are dead" bs at least
<SporkWitch>
i just wish they'd pushed through with Anthem. The potential for that game was epic, and they just gave up on it
<umaxtu>
if I had to pick a favorite publisher, it would be devolver digital
<umaxtu>
but picking favorites is stupid. so I wont
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You ask for a banana mod on the forums. You receive a sixpack of Jeb's Homebrew 75% Ginger Ale (with zero asbestos!) as an "I'm sorry for screwing your mission up" gift.
<packbart>
SporkWitch: "Private Division is Take-Two Interactive's third publishing label, following Rockstar Games and 2K"
<SporkWitch>
i couldn't say i have any favourites anymore, pretty much all have disappointed me in recent years. Why i've been doing so many random indie games by one or two person teams
<SporkWitch>
packbart: ah, well that's unfortuante :(
<umaxtu>
yeah. aa and smaller games are where it's at
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<SporkWitch>
i take back my comment; i was brainfarting and mixed up take-two with tencent
<umaxtu>
have any of you played Cult of the Lamb?
<SporkWitch>
doesn't sound familiar
<packbart>
hm. Tencent owns 9% of Frontier Developments stock
<SporkWitch>
technically i shouldn't give the names of some of the indies i've been playing as they're lewd, but the hilarity is that the ones i've been playing literally have better character development, storylines, and gameplay than 90% of the major releases for the past 10 years lol
<Althego>
i havent, but seen vtubers play it
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<umaxtu>
it's a blast.
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<funkenstein>
Somehow I feel bad time warping over 200 days because I feel that I should be doing several missions simultaneously, but at the moment the only idea I have is getting my rover to Eve, so there goes two years
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<packbart>
that feeling only leads to abandoned saves with probes on the way to all the planets but none ever arrives ;)
<funkenstein>
Lmao fair enough
<funkenstein>
I don't have that problem with probes though, I'm fine launching those simultaneously but I feel uncomfortable for manned missions
<funkenstein>
Kerbed missions?
<SporkWitch>
yeah, usually the only "background" stuff I have are things in big solar orbits, usually sentinels; transits I typically just fly the active mission, with occasional exceptions.
<SporkWitch>
the chart gives the line where low/high atmo split (atmo border), atmo/low orbit (atmo limit), and low/high orbit (space border); wish it included the SoI as well, just for convenience
<funkenstein>
My fairing is enough to keep everything from burning, right? As long as I decelerate
<SporkWitch>
Guess you'll find out :P Fairings are better than no fairing, but they're not really heat shields
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<Althego>
and quit loll
<SporkWitch>
either the web client is just that flaky or his connection is just that bad lol
<SporkWitch>
really needs to use a bouncer
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<funkenstein>
I forgot parachutes
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
everybody does
<Althego>
"check yo stagin"
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<funkenstein>
Eve entry with no heat shields!
<funkenstein>
And too many parachutes
<Althego>
hehe
<Althego>
if you have the inflatable, take that
<Althego>
survives everything
<funkenstein>
I took it but jettisoned it because I got through the atmosphere on. Fairing and fuel alone
<funkenstein>
It was only serving as a heavy parachute
<funkenstein>
Which had been my plan for using it to drop in a helicopter that would carry a rocket back up to as high as rotors can take me before rejoining with a mother craft
<Althego>
"mothership." "drives offline."
<funkenstein>
But I can't make a rotored (is that a word? It is now)vehicle that is stable enough to just go straight up
<Althego>
strange
<funkenstein>
Up, then sharply to the left at 10,000m
<SporkWitch>
rotary-wing aircraft are complicated IRL, and much moreso in KSP because of the wonky atmospherics lol
<raptop>
!outcome add Your rocket surprises everyone by imploding this time.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Your rocket surprises everyone by imploding this time.
<funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
TD-12 Decoupler collided with Jebediah Kerman. Kmath is lost in the evening netsplit.
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<Funkenstein>
Back
<Funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You plug your computer into a cheap Chinese power adaptor driven by a lawnmower engine. Your relaxing replica Europa Report mission suddenly turns frightening when you are [DATA EXPUNGED] on Vall.
<raptop>
hm
<Azander>
;mission
<LunchBot>
Kmath can't be bothered to find you a mission. You spend all that remains of your budget on cleaning up the mess you made.
<packbart>
The Lawnmower Vall
<FLHerne>
;outcome add Your rocket implodes, you repair it, then it explodes, you repair it again and launch it.
<LunchBot>
Added outcome: Your rocket implodes, you repair it, then it explodes, you repair it again and launch it.
<packbart>
just build the imploding rocket around an exploding rocket. boom, stability
<SporkWitch>
literally boom stability lol
<FLHerne>
based on real events, see SH Booster 7
<FLHerne>
although they haven't yet launched it, there's time for it to implode or explode again before launch
<Funkenstein>
;mission
<LunchBot>
You successfully dock with no RCS! You've used this command too much and the universe collapses.
<Funkenstein>
I did that lol
<Funkenstein>
I don't think I've yet docked with rcs