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<Eddi|zuHause> landing attempt #2b :p
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<Az> !mission
<LunchBot> Your engine rpm starts hunting in a rather uncomfortable way. All in all, a 100% successful trip!
<XXCoder> nice. moot issue then lol
<XXCoder> ;mission
<LunchBot> You develop a glorious mod that converts all of the ingame measurements to obscure units. Luckily everyone (and everything) involved was inflammable.
<XXCoder> whew lol
<Eddi|zuHause> well... that was *almost* a landing
<Eddi|zuHause> that was *technically* a landing but my materials bay broke
<Eddi|zuHause> also, it was nowhere near where i wanted to land
<Eddi|zuHause> starting also a... challenge...
<Eddi|zuHause> i either need to reverse the steering of the gimbal, or the steering of the reaction wheels
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<Eddi|zuHause> i've 337m/s left in mun orbit, and found a maneuver with 285m/s to a 46km kerbin PE
<Eddi|zuHause> PE ended up 32km, that might be a little low with no heat shield?
<Eddi|zuHause> ok, that was like 98% of critical temperature for a long time
<Eddi|zuHause> and it still dips out of the atmosphere for a short bit
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<Eddi|zuHause> and the end of it? i made hardly any science because i landed in the wrong spot
<Eddi|zuHause> well, "hardly any" means about 200
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<Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: time to science farm Kerbin...
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<FLHerne> .outcome add This exhausts the supply of physics in the local area, leading to widespread disruption.
<LunchBot> Added outcome: This exhausts the supply of physics in the local area, leading to widespread disruption.
<Mat2ch> !mission
<LunchBot> Due to a clerical error, you sent the letters to Santa back home (instead of the science report.) This outcome was written by sal_vager.
<Mat2ch> well well well
* Mat2ch has suddenly wet feet
<Mat2ch> oh, well
<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You jump to warp speed. Your payload fraction goes negative.
<Mat2ch> antimatter I guess?
<Althego> autopilot engaged. warping to stargate. warp drive active
<Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure antimatter doesn't have negative mass :p
<Eddi|zuHause> you're maybe talking about tachyons :)
<Althego> at least it was recently measured antimatter falls down too
<Eddi|zuHause> any suggestions on high altitude planes? thinking of "take a measurement in flight above 18km" halfway around the planet
<FLHerne> "halfway around the planet" for me would be a spaceplane (or even capsule) job
<FLHerne> flying planes long distances at single-digit timewarp gets tedious
<FLHerne> if you really want to stay in the atmosphere, fastest thing you can manage for the same reason, and the high altitude will be necessary anyway to stop it exploding
<FLHerne> pretty much spaceplane design again, just no oxidizer or switch to rockets
<Mat2ch> and autopilot.
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<Eddi|zuHause> anyway, playing golf around the KSC now...
<Mat2ch> hehe
<Mat2ch> more science!
<Mat2ch> And the moaaaaar boosters!
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<FLHerne> I do look forward to getting a computer that can run KSP again sometime
<FLHerne> minimalist low-tech spaceplanes were great fun
<Judge_DedD> Sounds like my thing
<Eddi|zuHause> slightly annoyed that [x] science doesn't seem to track the breaking ground experiments
<Eddi|zuHause> either the flagpole at the launchpad doesn't count as biome flagpole, or i can't get close enough with my plane, or i misremember there being a biome flagpole
<sandbox> didn't they patch that in?
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<Eddi|zuHause> after 1h MET i'm finally trying whether this plane can actually take off :p
<Eddi|zuHause> plane doing weird stuff after 20 minutes of flight, probably something to do with load distribution?
<Mat2ch> did you check how the CoM changes with the fuel levels?
<SporkWitch> Cool stuff about CERN, the LHC, and the proposed even larger collider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCmwCkNY85g
<sandbox> I watched that last week
<sandbox> I'm sure my sister went there years ago
<SporkWitch> never been there, but knew one of the guys that worked on processing the data. We used to play EVE Online together and managed to meet up when I was living in Germany.
<Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't a landing...
<Eddi|zuHause> guess i'm not flying today.
<Eddi|zuHause> got 600 science from KSC
<Eddi|zuHause> probably missed a few things
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<Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
<LunchBot> Porridge for breakfast, porridge for lunch, porridge for dinner. Why don't you go and buy some food that isn't oats?
<Judge_DedD> Hmm, that's a clever idea
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<raptop> !mission
<LunchBot> You present an Erinaceinae with a dilemma. In the ensuing investigation, you maintain that that mountain, quote, "came out of freaking nowhere."
<raptop> intermediate steps, lunchbot
<XXCoder> mountain of delemma
<Eddi|zuHause> or a mountain of erinaceinae?
<Eddi|zuHause> (very pointy)
<raptop> Maybe it was a very fast (blue?) mountain
<Eddi|zuHause> it was a very big hedgehog who was called "the mountain" by his people.
<Eddi|zuHause> he was angry because you confused his little cousin.
<raptop> Confusingly, colliding with the hedgehog sent a shower of golden rings everywhere
<Eddi|zuHause> !mission
<LunchBot> You will control the horizontal. You will control the vertical. You can roll the aircraft, make it flutter. You can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. You wonder what the hell is that weird round mountain on the horizon. It's Duna.
<raptop> nice
<Eddi|zuHause> i had so much fun i lost track of how far i went
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<Eddi|zuHause> i probably knew this once before... one mk16-xl parachute is not enough for a command module and a hitchhiker
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<sandbox> !mission
<LunchBot> You capture a glowing octopus-like creature and put it into a jar. This really rocks Newton's cradle.
<FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: been there, done that, poof
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<Eddi|zuHause> i don't understand mechjeb autopilot, when i set up an altitude (close to my current altitude) and a heading (close to my current heading), then as soon as i hit "engage" the plane tumbles out of control
<Pinkbeast> In atmosphere?
<Eddi|zuHause> yes
<Pinkbeast> MJ autopilot I find is particularly prone to just yoinking the controls about (in the way that, say, in vacuum you can just go "apply maximum pitch for this long, wait, cancel it out".
<Pinkbeast> )
<Pinkbeast> "Atmosphere Autopilot" I find much better at actually flying planes.
<Eddi|zuHause> i am generally terrible at flying planes myself. but while flying tends to get better after a few iterations, landing planes never really works...
<Pinkbeast> In my (limited) experience once you have AA (which in spite of the name functions mostly as a fly-by-wire system) you can land a plane very easily by coming in basically at sea level.
<Pinkbeast> You can't get away with this IRL because if an engine fails at an inopportune moment you're stuffed, but kerbal engineering is perfect.
<Pinkbeast> (just as IRL it is discouraged to say "stuff the takeoff rotation, I'm just going to fly off the end of the runway level and then have clear air under me")
<Eddi|zuHause> so, this plane travels quite comfortably at 15km, i've no idea if i can push it up to 17.5km for a tiny bit.
<Eddi|zuHause> probably not
<Eddi|zuHause> got 3 measurement points below, and 2 above.
<Pinkbeast> At 15km I hope you have enough air under you to catch you if you find out
<Eddi|zuHause> it's above ocean, so yes, probably :)