UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: !!!! https://github.com/bazelbuild/bazel/issues/374#issuecomment-325984463 this appears to be moving! maybe I can have a saner build system at some point
<Qboid> [#374] title: Allow any characters in filenames | Ultimately any character can be part of a filename. We should probably allow that.... | https://github.com/bazelbuild/bazel/issues/374
<bofh> oh?
<kmath> <picturecats> When you're trying to summon a bat demon but there's a typo in your spell book https://t.co/mlB7pyX9f1
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: ネコノミコヌ!
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also the channel logs are now the only result for ネコノミコヌ
* UmbralRaptor took entirely too long to figure out what egg was saying.
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: heh
<egg|zzz|egg> The ネコノミコヌ, by عبد القط
* UmbralRaptor isn't at a; l familiar with Arabic, so won't spot a pun there.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: I obtained that by google translate, so I'm not sure it makes much sense
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<UmbralRaptor> IIRC, given the silliness with how the name was generated, some of it should just be transliterated. >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> abdalqut
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<kmath> <nateisgood> Has anyone pointed out that Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump ARE Fat Man and Little Boy?
<egg|zzz|egg> but then I guess abdul alhazred has a silly doubled al, so maybe this should be عبدال القط
<egg|zzz|egg> which google wants to pronounce eabdal alquti (arabic tts is fun, what with missing vowels)
<bofh> abdul alhazred from what I've heard is basically dog arabic
<bofh> (ie nonsense)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yeah, so is this
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: but abdul alquti sounds like a good author for the nekonomicon
<egg|zzz|egg> also the difference between ل ا and لا is a space, ligatures are fun :D
<kmath> <bofh453> I swear, this line (from SoX effects_i.c) never gets old: m -= key = m - ((INT32_MAX / 2 - ((INT32_MAX / 2) % 12) + m - key) % 12);
<bofh> like... why the hell would you write it that way?
<UmbralRaptor> ?
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<bofh> SnoopJeDi: so I found the original of that Internet Friends pic: https://goodbye-paradise.deviantart.com/art/beta-kids-375779787
<bofh> (it was easy, reverse google-image-search and then look for the only one that didn't artifact the fuck out of the gradients)
<UmbralRaptor> https://arxiv.org/abs/1709.00418 via K. Batygin.
<kmath> <DanTwoHundred> Programmers: Always use descriptive variable names Mathematicians: Single letter variable names always, ideally from obscure/dead alphabets
<Ellied> UmbralRaptor: was that an actual blank line at 00:46 UTC, or a character I'm missing?
<bofh> > Programmers use descriptive variable names
<bofh> oh boy do I have some 45-year old FORTRAN for you
<Iskierka> that's not programming, that's torture
<UmbralRaptor> Ellied: I don't have timestamps active on my phone, so right after bofh asking why anyone would so that?
<UmbralRaptor> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1F632 ASTONISHED FACE (?)
<Ellied> ah, alas, that is a missing character
<SnoopJeDi> bofh, cc whitequark I believe?
<SnoopJeDi> the internet friends pic, I mean
<Ellied> at my physics department, the prevailing style of writing MATLAB favors not only single-letter variables, but REUSED single-letter variables.
<Ellied> sometimes single-letter variables that alternate what they're used for during a loop. @_@
<Ellied> the most common variable name is, of course, x
<Fiora> you know what's better than single letters though
<Fiora> var1
<Fiora> var2
<Fiora> var3
<UmbralRaptor> AAAAA
<Technicalfool> UmbralRaptor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QV5VVR2Fc4
<kmath> YouTube - A AA AAA AAAA AAAAA AAAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA
<kmath> YouTube - Aaaaa??
<UmbralRaptor> uhm
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* UmbralRaptor hopes no one takes https://twitter.com/WorldAndScience/status/904706077178068992 too seriously. And yes, that's Chiron as in 2060 Chiron. Have fun with the ΔV reqs.
<kmath> <WorldAndScience> Infographic There's Big Money to Be Made in Asteroid Mining https://t.co/sZbjIXermj
<Fiora> omg
<Fiora> that chart is amazing.
<Fiora> ah yes, we will just take this 100km wide rock and define its value by its mineral makeup.
<Fiora> how will you get those minerals? hmmmhhmhmhmhmhm i dont know
<Fiora> did you know the sun is worth gazillions of dollars. it's like. pure hydrogen and helium!!! and we have a helium shortage too
<Iskierka> they could've also made it big enough for the fonts to render clearer
<Fiora> eh? reads fine here
<Iskierka> it can be read but I'm at full zoom and it's fuzzy, some eye strain
<Iskierka> most noticeable on asteroid type list
<Fiora> its probably twitter's scaling T B H
<Iskierka> I opened in new tab
<Fiora> er, twitter doesn't show the original image
<Fiora> even if you open in new tab
<Fiora> it shows a scaled version. the one it displays is an -even smaller- scaled version
<Fiora> it doesn't allow you to upload arbitrarily large images
<Iskierka> Which means this one is too big for twitter
<Iskierka> font size in places must be less than 5 and that doesn't work without low-resolution fonts
<Iskierka> I also just noticed the elements are formatted wrong
* UmbralRaptor was especially amused by Chiron because if one isn't careful, it could take >10 km/s to get the materials somewhere useful. Also, the diameter is probably far too small.
<Fiora> also like...... it would be cheaper to make a borehole. on earth.
<Fiora> the only reason to mine an asteroid is if you need the materials in space. at which point valuing things in terms of money makes no sense, since there's no market in space (or medium of exchange) with which to value things
<Iskierka> some of the rare metals on NEOs might be a different matter in the coming years
<Iskierka> but only the rare metals
<Fiora> yeah, that's like the one exception i can think of
<Iskierka> which begs the question where's iridium on this list
<UmbralRaptor> Good question.
<Iskierka> ammonia/water are only relevant if trying to live in space. Iron would primarily be relevant as a dead mass that can be smelted and made ferromagnetic so you can use it as mass for electric propulsion without ionisation
<Iskierka> if you were building in space you'd need some but nowhere near the quantities the asteroids have
<Fiora> also even if you're mining rare metals, you need to be able to refine them (well enough) on the asteroid
<Fiora> otherwise you just run into the delta v problem again
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Fiora, Iskierka, and UmbralRaptor
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<egg|zzz|egg> <egg|forgot to set alarm clock|egg> >_<
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<whitequark> Fiora: i do wonder about the helium shortage, like can we launch satellites into van allen belts to collect helium there and if yes, how efficient is that
<whitequark> like we did use mass spectrometers to separate u-235 into kilogram amounts
<whitequark> *thinks* though doing things like "drilling into the least useful natural gas repositories and doing pressure swing adsorbtion to preferentially extract helium from them" should be vastly cheaper
<whitequark> dumb idea
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<kmath> <CurlOfGradient> You versus the fungi she told you not to worry about https://t.co/nFfuNGYBMC
<UmbralRaptor> "Keith and I wanted to learn more about making games for old computers, so we ported SHENZHEN SOLITAIRE to MS-DOS."
<UmbralRaptor> uhm
<UmbralRaptor> whitequark: Being a catboy doesn't seem with it if you have to also be a Nazi.
<UmbralRaptor> s/with/worth/
<Qboid> UmbralRaptor meant to say: whitequark: Being a catboy doesn't seem worth it if you have to also be a Nazi.
* UmbralRaptor ? ?
<whitequark> UmbralRaptor: cyborg nazi vampire catboy, to be specific
<UmbralRaptor> I haven't seen the anime in ages. Schrödinger can teleport and has 9 lives, right?
<whitequark> I'm watching OVAs, and what you say doesn't make sense, so it was probably from the TV series
* UmbralRaptor might be conflating the manga also. >_>
<Iskierka> also that's a catboy, catgirls are better
<UmbralRaptor> Blame the Nazis for a lack of catgirls.
<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn Iskierka
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<Iskierka> o.O
<UmbralRaptor> I'm pretty certain that's actually a thing.
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|work|egg
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<Iskierka> I just question who added that possibility
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<Iskierka> accuweather says terrible cloud cover and BBC says clear. Probably a normal esa launch P:
<bofh> !wpn Iskierka
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<bofh> is it face-centered or body-centered?
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
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<kmath> <adventuresofrob> I have been doing some important research https://t.co/bq5P7KgQMQ
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<Iskierka> the internet has told me owls are actually kinda dumb
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<UmbralRaptor> Corvids, though…
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<Iskierka> the new caledonian crow is the only non-human species to keep tools
<Iskierka> some primates may improvise them occasionally, but only this corvid will make a good tool and then hold on to it
<Greys> crows, are the best.
<Greys> I have a sort of physics engine question
<Greys> and imagine you then placed a cylinder on the wheels
<Iskierka> 403 denied
<Greys> logically the swivels would revolve so the wheels are furthest on an approximate plane created by their combined axles and swivles.... fricken internet
<Greys> from the projected centerline of the cylinder
<Greys> now there's also the crown pully effect, which may or may not apply to this situation, where if you run a belt over a wheel who'se outer surface is rounded over, the belt experiences a pseudoforce as a result of traction and tension and so on that tries to keep the belt's contact pattern centered over the portion of the wheel curvature that is most distant from the center of rotation
<Greys> if it does come into effect than the swivle casters will want to likewise keep their contact with the cylinder centered on the peak of their crowns
<Greys> which should, ideally, combined with the settling effect, make the wheels seek a lowest energy state wherein the wheel is roughly perpindicular to the centerline of the cylinder, regardless of the alignment of the wheels to themselves
<Greys> questionmark?
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<egg|afk|egg> !wpn whitequark
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<egg|afk|egg> whitequark: btw, you missed this while you were away https://logs.tmsp.io/kspacademia/2017-09-03#1504477039-1504477887;
<egg|afk|egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ what is wrong with GitHub's CSS?
<whitequark> lol
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<UmbralRaptor> ;8ball Should I bother to pay a parking ticket I got at MSU?
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: Very doubtful
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<Greys> you're at MSU?
<Greys> was the cop a graduate?
<UmbralRaptor> Uh, Missouri, not Michigan.
<Greys> I'm not a fan of MSU, but I'm always against missouri
<UmbralRaptor> Also, I'm at George Mason University now >_>
* egg|afk|egg stabbity the M[ai].* states
<Greys> that's like all of them
<Greys> I just looked at the userlist of this channel for the first time, 2/3rds @
<UmbralRaptor> egg|afk|egg: So Montana is fine?
* UmbralRaptor got the ticket because his parking pass apparently expired early.
<egg|afk|egg> UmbralRaptor: no actually that's eggstremely confusing too because of MO, good point
<Greys> there are four US states that start with M, MA, MI, MN, MS
<Greys> google,. you have lied to me
<Greys> MAMDMEMIMNMOMSMT
<Greys> that's more than four
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<Iskierka> !kountdown 8
<Qboid> Iskierka: ID: 8 | Name: Intelsat 37e & BSAT 4a/Ariane 5 ECA | Time: 2017-09-05 21:51:00 | Unixtime: 1504648260 | Left: 0d 2h 14m 5s
<Qboid> Iskierka: Description: An Ariane 5 ECA will launch the BSS-702MP-based Intelsat 37e (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/intelsat-37e.htm) and the SSL-1300-based BSat 4a (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/bsat-4a.htm) from Kourou ELA-3 into GEO
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<egg|afk|egg> !kd 5
<Qboid> egg|afk|egg: ID: 5 | Name: 「みちびき3号機」/H-IIAロケット35号機 | Time: 2017-08-19 05:29:00 | Unixtime: 1503120540 | Left: 17d 14h 12m 37s
<Qboid> egg|afk|egg: Description: An H-IIA rocket will launch the DS-2000-based みちびき3号機 navigation spacecraft from 種子島宇宙センター (see http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/qzs-3.htm). https://youtu.be/-bgZYjnN9gQ
<kmath> YouTube - 準天頂衛星システム静止軌道衛星「みちびき3号機」/H-IIAロケット35号機打ち上げ中継
<UmbralRaptor> M[entireBMP]
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<icefire> !kd 8
<Qboid> icefire: ID: 8 | Name: Intelsat 37e & BSAT 4a/Ariane 5 ECA VA239 | Time: 2017-09-05 21:51:00 | Unixtime: 1504648260 | Left: 0d 1h 58m 8s
<Qboid> icefire: Description: An Ariane 5 ECA will launch the BSS-702MP-based Intelsat 37e (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/intelsat-37e.htm) and the SSL-1300-based BSat 4a (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/bsat-4a.htm) from Kourou ELA-3 into GEO http://arianespace.tv
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<egg|afk|egg> yay a happy user? forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/0--&do=findComment&comment=3165610
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: so the abbreviations for the m states are M[SEDATION]
<whitequark> wat
<UmbralRaptor> egg: Now how does it correlate with opioid deaths?
* UmbralRaptor ? banks
<Greys> hmmmm
<Greys> my eyes think that checks out
<Greys> I wonder how many other natural sets of states you can make words out of like this
<UmbralRaptor> Customer loyalty is enforced by making it all but impossible to interact w/ one via an account at another, xfer funds, etc.
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<UmbralRaptor> And of course ATM fees.
<UmbralRaptor> ($3 here)
<Greys> the abbreviations of states don't make sense
<Greys> Maine and Maryland have the last letter, Mass. and Michigan have the second, and the rest have random letters because the appropriate letter was already taken
<Iskierka> arianespace says 43 min so I assume that's to the livestream start
<Greys> MonTana, at least makes sense because it's a signifcant part of the name, but I would have gone with MO, cept taken
<Iskierka> Take the hardest unique consonant that has to be enunciated to be clearly that name?
<Iskierka> not that that works for the vowels
<Greys> Mizzureh doesn't even have an O when you say it
<Greys> but MI and MS were taken
<Iskierka> MR
<Greys> Mssssippi, I guess they're screwed
<Greys> they should have stuck with the last letter thing, there's only two pairs of states that share a last letter, but there's four states with i as the second letter, and three with a
<Iskierka> among all states or among m states?
<Greys> there are only m states
<Greys> then, going with last letter, or first untaken consonant, we'd have MI, ME, MD, MS, MT, MN, MR, MA
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<egg> Iskierka: weather's good
<egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<UmbralRaptor> Error loading player: No playable sources found
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg
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<egg> UmbralRaptor: uh
<UmbralRaptor> It's a star catalog?
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<UmbralRaptor> The error was from the arianespace website.
<kmath> YouTube - AO VIVO Ariane 5 Mission #Intelsat 37e #VA239 launch - 5/09/2017
<egg> seems a bit delayed though
* UmbralRaptor ? YouTube for complaining that it can't load the link.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: wait, the youtube livestream doesn't work either? Ꙩ_ꙩ
<UmbralRaptor> Now it does. o_O
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<egg> Vulcain shutdown, abort
<egg> birds confusedly flying around
<UmbralRaptor> Or I could lose Wi-Fi.
<UmbralRaptor> birds!
<egg> UmbralRaptor: sequence went to Vulcain ignition, followed by Vulcain shutdown instead of EAP ignition/takeoff
<egg> DDO to all, abandon of today's attempt, following an aborted launch, all means remain activated to set the launch base to stopped configuration.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: scrub!
<UmbralRaptor> With soap?
<egg> who left a bar of soap in the Vulcain engine
<egg> (it's not in Чебышёв, got introduced since then, but obviously we need to fix that before Cesàro)
* UmbralRaptor blinks at the yellow-green line's right angles.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: yes, that's the bug
<egg> UmbralRaptor: the thing gets teleported along its orbit around the solar system barycentre on contact with another vessel (a Kerbal in this case)
<egg> !wpn -add:adj purring
<Qboid> egg: Adjective added!
<egg> !wpn whitequark
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* UmbralRaptor confused.
* UmbralRaptor stares at https://twitter.com/sehurlburt/status/889004724669661184 then his limited knowledge and lack of followers.
<kmath> <sehurlburt> For people who are in a position to give help: Post to your timeline every now & then that you're open to questions. That makes a difference
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
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<UmbralRaptor> Halatnikov tofu?
<egg> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1332A EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH T030 (?)
<egg> a knife
<UmbralRaptor> Yay, stab!
<kmath> <diodebot> witching diode
<egg> bofh: but, if you call the polynomials of the first kind Ч instead of T, what do you call those of the second kind (the Us)