UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath>
<Newpa_Hasai> @NovaSilisko But, that's how things play out on the notbird website. My most popular tweets are an unoriginal joke and a cat pic.
<kmath>
<plutokiller> Breaking alert: there is a mother bobcat and kitten in my backyard RIGHT NOW and they are super cute. #OMGKITTENS https://t.co/2FWOHoCbeg
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<rqou>
!wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid
gives egg|zzz|egg a caffeinated ideal
<rqou>
egg|zzz|egg: this wasn't in time for my midterm, but when you have time i would like a crash course in tensor products that you mentioned a while back
<FluffyFoxeh>
holy shit
<FluffyFoxeh>
telnet mapscii.me
<rqou>
wow
<rqou>
til mouse can be tunneled over telnet
<rqou>
using it on a 4k screen is amazing too
<FluffyFoxeh>
yup, same way as it can over SSH (which I do with weechat) I imagine
<rqou>
huh, i wonder what the data feed for this is
<FluffyFoxeh>
yeah me too
<rqou>
it has "A. Richard Newton Bridge" which is quite obscure
<rqou>
but it doesn't actually have the names of the buildings this bridge is attached to
<FluffyFoxeh>
I think it's OSM
<rqou>
i should update OSM to tell them that "Qualcomm Cafe" is no longer there :P
<rqou>
also, Top Dog is no longer there either
<rqou>
this apparently will perpetually confuse alumni every sportsball season :P
<rqou>
uh, OSM isn't misaligned in China?
<rqou>
that might be illegal :P
<FluffyFoxeh>
misaligned?
<rqou>
in google maps, all the streets in china are offset from their actual location
<rqou>
this is very noticeable if you look at the china-hk border
<FluffyFoxeh>
I wonder what that is meant to accomplish
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<egg|cell|egg>
Awang, i don't know, probably not much, but maybe try to solve that sigill bug first, no point making a useless build for a newer version
<egg|cell|egg>
Awang: iirc you had a sigill in the tests, so debug using that, should be easier than with a giant journal
<awang>
egg|cell|egg: Good idea
<awang>
I should start having these good ideas more frequently
<egg|cell|egg>
Awang: you're probably building it wrong somehow, since Lamont's build works
<egg|cell|egg>
Something mislinked? Seems threading lib related
<egg|cell|egg>
Anyway can't help you much here, what with my lack of Mac
<egg|cell|egg>
Maclack
<awang>
Hopefully I'm not building it wrong? Didn't change the Makefile at least
<awang>
And supposedly I'm linked to the system libraries
<awang>
And I built using Apple's Clang, so I'd hope that it's expecting the system libraries
<awang>
Need to ask lamont whether he's built on High Sierra yet
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<Greys>
time delay cat is a powerful foe
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn Iskierka
* Qboid
gives Iskierka a hydrogen missile
* Greys
ducks
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<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark an orthogonal ſtabber
<rqou>
!wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid
gives egg|zzz|egg an unit in the last cube
<whitequark>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg a germanium bracket
<rqou>
that sounds like it would be pretty brittle
<UmbralRaptor>
For concern purposes, Alex Wellerstine is a virologist, right?
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<Greys>
are any of you good at amazon?
<Greys>
I'm looking at the store page for pelican, they make cases, for like cameras and guns and audio equipment and drones and so on
<Greys>
but the only thing on this stor page is iphone cases
<Greys>
I know there's more than that associated with the brand on amazon, because that's how I got here
<Greys>
but there seems to be zero traversible paths between the brand and what the brand sells via the brand's store page
<Greys>
this is like if you walked into the isle at walmart labelled cereal, and the only thing there was a man demanding you be interested in his cart of bananas
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn rqou
* Qboid
gives rqou a nonpolar 2N7000
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn котя
* Qboid
gives котя a nukular ☣ with a git attachment
* rqou
runs away
<rqou>
hmm
<rqou>
!wpn Qboid
* Qboid
gives Qboid a ferromagnetic saker-like fractal
<rqou>
aw, it doesn't cause a catastrophic failure :(
<rqou>
!wpn ?
* Qboid
gives ? a polar ones-complement jellyfish
<rqou>
wow, correct astral plane handling
<rqou>
it's almost as if this channel has people who actually work on i18n
<Iskierka>
Greys: the standard google search tools like -removethisterm might work?
<Iskierka>
I'm pretty sure you can search from that page and filter it?
<Greys>
nope
<Iskierka>
also, I'm laughing at the google results about brain deterioration with age (looking for the more recent ones that disprove it). 2009: 'brain decline' begins at age 27. 2012: Brain function can start declining 'as early as age 45'
<Iskierka>
are you SURE it's declining?
<Iskierka>
REALLY sure?
<Greys>
the search field is still site-wide, and the brand portal only recognizes the brand as having iphone cases
<Greys>
I'm pretty sure the brand decides what gets shown, but it used to be that you could also just see everything from the brand
<Iskierka>
Is definitely not complete as you can simply search "pelican case" and get other results, which are branded with links to that page
<Greys>
this future sucks
<Greys>
somebody invent an intertimemachine, I want to sample other versions of now and possibly move
<Iskierka>
I also now see claims that different brain functions peak at different ages. I have here an article that pretty much says memory performance doesn't change appreciably at any point. Theory: if you're not doing the former experiment over decades, perhaps those skills are just what schooling back then focussed on
<Iskierka>
measuring people's performance simply then becoming a time graph of what was taught and/or valued
<soundnfury>
Iskierka: iirc -notthis doesn't work on google any more
<soundnfury>
as part of google's continuing drive to never be more than ε less sucky than their competitors in any field
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<FluffyFoxeh>
soundnfury: what the fuck
<FluffyFoxeh>
source?
<FluffyFoxeh>
seems to work for me still
<Greys>
I still use it
<Greys>
they even made it work on images now
<Fiora>
Iskierka: <news headline voice> brain function can start declining 'as early as you forget to take your meds'
<Iskierka>
barring definitive medical failure like alzheimers
<Iskierka>
I think google may be more fuzzy now and won't *completely* remove things you ask it to, as part of the machine learning it's based on now rather than pagerank, but it should still start preferring things that lack it
<Iskierka>
it just ... might not be strong enough to avoid absurdly popular pages you want nothing to do with because they're bs
<FluffyFoxeh>
I know I hate the fuzzy sometimes non-deterministic algorithm
<FluffyFoxeh>
it just arbitrarily decides to not show you things
<FluffyFoxeh>
I've searched with quoted terms before, and it found nothing. I then added more terms and suddenly it found things
<egg|zzz|egg>
!wpn Fiora
* Qboid
gives Fiora a resistor
<soundnfury>
FluffyFoxeh: oh wait I remember, it's +noreally they got rid of
<soundnfury>
and yeah I miss the days when you could specify a Google search with all the precision of an SQL query. "No dammit Google, I want *these* things. No I didn't mean 'kumquat', if I'd meant that I'd have _typed_ 'kumquat'."
<Iskierka>
aaand to be entirely fair, they *could* still just train the algorithm to respect all the old techniques
<Greys>
catsoup -kumquat "did you mean kumquat -kumquat?"
<Iskierka>
just give it massive penalties for failing to meet the old ones, use normal training strength for normal queries
<Iskierka>
would be imperfect but would have meaningful effect and be controllable
<FluffyFoxeh>
"adobe-flashplugin sound not working"
<FluffyFoxeh>
"here are results for adobe sound not working"
<FluffyFoxeh>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
<Iskierka>
-shockwave -premier -reader -photoshop
<soundnfury>
Iskierka: yes, they could. Why the fnording sandwich don't they?
<Iskierka>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<FluffyFoxeh>
because they don't give a shit about any but the lowest common denominator of users. they're better at finding things when you don't know what you're looking for than when you know almost exactly what you're looking for
<soundnfury>
(I refer the hon. gentleman to my previous remarks about epsilons)
<Iskierka>
that's a little harsh. it's apple that's for the lowest common denominator, and therefore goes to extreme effort to be unusable to higher denominators
<Iskierka>
google just go low, not lowest
<FluffyFoxeh>
here's something fun. changing the sorting order on youtube from "Relevant" to "Upload date" can change the number of results by an order of magnitude
<Iskierka>
increasing or decreasing?
<FluffyFoxeh>
it's much lower when you tell it to do upload date
<FluffyFoxeh>
actually it could go either way apparently
<Greys>
if you go on craigslist and filter by "has image", some listings with images will disappear
<FluffyFoxeh>
oh and when you do sort by upload date it'll just randomly skip things depending on what you've restricted the date to, so you have to fiddle with that as well
<FluffyFoxeh>
not that they give you many options or the ability to set a range ending somewhere other than the current day
<Greys>
Iskierka, if you were going to play a barbarian in a game with not much combat, how would you want to rework the rage ability to still be relevant?
<UmbralRaptor>
Greys: Are there other physical challenges?
<Greys>
probably
<Greys>
but there's not going to be much initiative time
<Greys>
wait
<Greys>
that makes it sound like this is more than an abstract hypothetical
<Greys>
I have no plans
<Greys>
according to behindthename.com, Science is a viable masculine given name
<Greys>
there's exactly one example though, some actress named her son Audio Science Sossamon
<Greys>
does pendulum falacy apply to quadcopters?
<Iskierka>
yes
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<Iskierka>
it's a fallacy because pendulum works because the "lifting" force, the reaction on the pivot, does not rotate with the object. A quadcopter's or rocket's or helicopter's thrust does
<Iskierka>
and in pretty much all the cases stability pretty much comes down to structural resonances instead, whether or not the structure will turn the thrust in about the right time to counter a previous deviation
<Fiora>
UmbralRaptor: nice
<Iskierka>
Greys: although there is a notable difference in if you're applying the pendulum fallacy to the idea of a quadcopter supporting a pole above it or dangling one beneath, as while the thrust is locked to quadcopter angle, the quadcopter is (presumably) not locked to the pole
<Iskierka>
it doesn't quite form a pendulum in the same way, as you now have control of the force direction, but it is more stable to dangle. Though it is controllable
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<kmath>
<SwiftOnSecurity> One of the most worrying arguments I've heard is that humanity is at a point where, if we fall, we fall forever. An irreversible cascade.
<FluffyFoxeh>
this is actually one of the few things that I don't look at in a depressing way
<FluffyFoxeh>
the global economic system is incalculably complex but it actually *works*
<FluffyFoxeh>
that's wonderous to me
<whitequark>
fun fact: Intel has a plan for restarting silicon production after a worldwide disaster.
<whitequark>
like, an actual bunker somewhere, with documents, machines and personnel
<whitequark>
it's not widely advertised, I think
<FluffyFoxeh>
don't want those space aliens sabotaging our contingency plans :p
<Iskierka>
I mean for all people complain about potential insecurities about the remote management thing, it's cool if they're aiming to prevent the total collapse of humanity due to lack of ability to replace things we relied on
<Iskierka>
is it as in like how to get basic power going and the simplest way to create a working foundry with fewest tech requirements, I guess?
<icefire>
if civilization falls at this point it would be very hard to start back up again
<icefire>
we've burned and mined most of the easy to get to fuel
<whitequark>
coal is always there
<whitequark>
gigantic, massive stashes of coal
<icefire>
mm yeah, still plenty of that
<icefire>
for now
<whitequark>
nah
<whitequark>
australia has enough coal for like 100 years and it's being phased out already
<whitequark>
and that's just australia
<icefire>
I haven't really been keeping up
<icefire>
is this market forces driving the change or policy?
<Iskierka>
I mean if you're that desperate I'm pretty sure there's a LOT of UK coal. Not used even slightly due to the smog, but emergency and reduced population? Get shovelling
<whitequark>
^
<whitequark>
policy currently
<whitequark>
dirty etc
<icefire>
hmmm
<FluffyFoxeh>
meanwhile in the US, "make coal mining great again"
<FluffyFoxeh>
:p
<icefire>
yeah get those coal miners jobs back! ignore that they were taken away by machines long ago
<whitequark>
ores might be somewhat worse BUT restarting civilization can probably be done on recycled material
<whitequark>
you don't need to make an oxygen liquefier to make decent steel even