egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<bofh^28> !u ẞß
<Qboid> U+1E9E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S (ẞ)
<Qboid> U+00DF LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S (ß)
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* UmbralRaptop chirps at iximeow
* iximeow meows at UmbralRaptop
<iximeow> UmbralRaptop: seriously considering 2h trip to go 3km up for space pix tomorrow
<iximeow> its cold but also 3km less air
<UmbralRaptop> !wa exp(-3/8.4)
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: exp(-3/8.4) = 0.699673...
<UmbralRaptop> !wa exp(-3/7)
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: exp(-3/7) = 1/e^(3/7)
<UmbralRaptop> !wa exp(-3/7.0)
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: exp(-3/7) = 0.651439...
<UmbralRaptop> iximeow: seems reasonable
<iximeow> i appreciate that qboid handily cleaned up that exp for you the second time
<iximeow> between the air and light pollution-- i'm hopeful for good quality
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* egg|cell|egg meows at bofh
* egg|cell|egg meows at UmbralRaptor
* egg|cell|egg meows at whitequark
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<egg> !wpn
* Qboid gives egg a germanium polynomial
* egg pokes bofh^28 with the germanium polynomial
* egg meows at the breakfast pics
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<bofh^28> egg: wtg
<bofh^28> wtf*
<bofh^28> I'll look into it. Also send you a paper in a sec.
<egg|cell|egg> Yay wait does that mean five months
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* egg pets whitequark
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* egg stares at the bofh^28 sec
<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1050309063333085184 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<kmath> <SpaceflightNow> The problem occurred as the first and second stages of the Soyuz rocket separated. Mission control in Houston confi… https://t.co/VaCeICp3AR
<egg> bofh^28: союз!
<egg> bofh^28: also stabbity bootloopy phone 2 factor stabbity
<UmbralRaptop> N5X?
<egg> yes
<egg> and guild wars 2 doesn't have recovery codes
<egg> so I need to get 2 codes out of the phnoe
<egg> current status: when frozen, phone starts bootlooping as I enter the screen lock pattern thingy
<bofh^28> I take it you didn't enable usb debugging in developer options?
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<UmbralRaptop> might be able to position it in some way to get it to boot (do not jostle)
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<egg> bofh^28: ?
<egg> UmbralRaptop: aaaaaaa
<egg> bofh^28: why are you not here to provide me with liquid nitrogen,
<UmbralRaptop> egg: eg: having it lie horizontally on a surface
<egg> UmbralRaptop: it is lying on a frozen burger patty
<egg> unfortunately it is bootlooping on it,
<egg> stabbity
<UmbralRaptop> I mean, it's probably mechanical rather than thermal at this point, so have the phone lying on a flat surface?
<kmath> <reyes_anai> OMG I'VE BEEN VICIOUSLY TRYING TO FIND THIS VID. AND NOW IT IS HERE TO STAY https://t.co/vzFvrOKM4Z
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg> UmbralRaptop: it is
<UmbralRaptop> ah
<UmbralRaptop> stabbity
<bofh^28> egg: come to Paris,
<egg> bofh^28: not sure whether usb thingy is enabled
<egg> bofh^28: should I try flashing the random img I find on xda-developers
<egg> bofh^28: does flashing that wipe the phone? that would be a bit silly in the context of trying to recover data from it,
<bofh^28> egg: is it custom recovery firmware? if so then flashing it shouldn't do a wipe
<bofh^28> your old phone is a samsung, right?
<egg> LG
<bofh^28> egg: yeah unlocking the bootloader will wipe your phone if you haven't unlocked it via the OEM unlock
<egg> bofh^28: how do i know whether it is locked
<bofh^28> but if you're in the situation of doing an OEM unlock then you can equally well just use adb to copy over the relevant partitions
<bofh^28> egg: try flashing RECOVERY (NOT BOOT, RECOVERY) as per that page, if it succeeds, you're good.
<bofh^28> if it fails, it's locked
<bofh^28> (as in ONLY run fastboot flash recovery)
<egg> bofh^28: fwiw when the device is booted in the belly-up android with front panel open revealing черенков radiation state it says "DEVICE STATE - locked" at the bottom
<bofh^28> ahh. yeah, you might be SOL flashing things.
<egg> not sure why there is черенков radiation,
<bofh^28> try plugging in a USB cable, booting it, then running adb backup -f myAndroidBackup.ab -all -nosystem
<bofh^28> tho again you *may* need to unlock it to hit OK to a prompt
<egg> booting it how
<bofh^28> oh yeah you can adb shell input to send touch events
<bofh^28> just normally, to Android
<egg> ...
<egg> if i could do that i would just be getting the recovery codes and running away,
<bofh^28> 10:11:08 <@egg> current status: when frozen, phone starts bootlooping as I enter the screen lock pattern thingy
<bofh^28> presumably you can boot it to the screen lock and if you leave it in place in the freezer it will stay booted?
<bofh^28> this suffices
<egg> yes but now it doesn't even get that far
<bofh^28> augh.
<bofh^28> hrm
<egg> back to the freezer we go I suppose
<bofh^28> like basically the idea is to leave it in the freezer but connected via USB
<egg> aaaa
<egg> bofh^28: apparently an alternate method is to heat it
<egg> or insert a US coin in it Ꙩ_ꙩ
<bofh^28> yeah heating the PCB is what I personally suggest since what you're trying to do is BGA reflow essentially (cc: whitequark)
<bofh^28> not sure the coin method would do anything
<egg> bofh^28: compressive maintenance\
<egg> bofh^28: I could try percussive maintenance too
<egg> fuck it bootloops right out the freezer now
<egg> bofh^28: the coin method apparently works with a US dime, 0.01 EUR coin, 0.1 SGD coin, 0.25 THB coin, ...
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<egg> bofh^28: hm i don't actually have a hair dryer
<egg> bofh^28: I suppose I'll try the smolcoin method tomorrow...
<egg> or tonight rather
<egg> stabbity stabbity stabbity
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* egg|cell|egg meows at bofh
<egg|work|egg> !pet bofh^28
* Qboid pets bofh^28
<bofh^28> 10:59:53 <@egg> bofh^28: the coin method apparently works with a US dime, 0.01 EUR coin, 0.1 SGD coin, 0.25 THB coin, ...
<bofh^28> I'm really curious where the coin is supposed to go tbh.
<bofh^28> !pet egg|work|egg
* Qboid pets egg|work|egg
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: on the motherboard
<egg|work|egg> on the thermal pad actually
<bofh^28> oh. hm.
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: also the latest bofhsec is in excess of 4 h
* egg|work|egg almost typoed that as bofhsex somehow O_o
<egg|work|egg> which would not be that outlandish a typo except my layout is dvorak so they're really not next to each other O_o
<bofh^28> um.
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: does doubling bofh double the length of the bofhsec
<bofh^28> I *think* they're uncorrelated, but not sure.
<egg|cell|egg> 喵
<bofh^28> okay I am 99% certain you can have a faithfully-rounded double-double multiply if you have one double-double-double add step for the terms that are in O((2^-53)^2) and propagate its error forwards to the O((2^-53)^3) and O((2^-53)^4) terms.
<bofh^28> (the last of those terms are necessary only for rounding, but we need rounding here so they're important).
<bofh^28> sec.
<bofh^28> okay now I just need to pick a renormalization scheme that provably works correctly, or prove that the dodgy-but-empirically-consistent one I found in a random paper actually *does* work (seriously, the proof is left as an exercise to the reader in the paper)
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: actually I have forgotten what result we are trying to prove at this point, aside from the fact that double^k is involved, k > 1 >_>
<bofh^28> egg|work|egg: quad-double based on double-double has add/sub/mul faithfully rounded (and otherwise behaves nicely) if double-double is correctly rounded.
<bofh^28> rofl
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: wait what, is double-double correctly rounded?
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: I thought it was only double that is correctly rounded, and double-double is whatever comes out of linmaaargh
<SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, the stubby tail 😭
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: UmbralRaptop left a message for you in #kspacademia [11.10.2018 10:28:22]: "https://twitter.com/reyes_anai/status/1047700269021241345"
<kmath> <reyes_anai> OMG I'VE BEEN VICIOUSLY TRYING TO FIND THIS VID. AND NOW IT IS HERE TO STAY https://t.co/vzFvrOKM4Z
<SnoopJeDi> ooh nvm it's a Syrian hamster, here I was worried that it was a rat who'd had its tail amputated
<bofh^28> egg|work|egg: er. transpose one over. linmaargh is faithful, double is correct, and quad-double is kind of a mess.
<kmath> <stephentyrone> @volatile_void If the intern wrote it it would work. https://t.co/hi3ax036zU numerics is ... well, it’s kinda like… https://t.co/fevYnV2MhJ
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: can you ask him for more catpics btw
<egg|work|egg> it's been too long since the last floatingpointwithatlas :'(
<kmath> <eggleroy> @stephentyrone /me meows at Atlas
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<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh^28
* Qboid gives bofh^28 a deadlock
<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a cat which strongly resembles a DDOS
<egg|work|egg> hm
* egg|work|egg pets whitequark's DDOS
<kmath> <stephentyrone> Off to China tomorrow for two weeks. Beijing, Xi'an, Chengdu, Shanghai. Bringing Riley *and* my parents. Wish me luck.
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: well there's plenty of time til tomorrow for Atlas to publish,
<egg|work|egg> bofh^28: also I don't think Atlas is actually coming with them :-p
<bofh^28> okay, point, and with them gone there will be more time for Atlas to work,
<egg|work|egg> eggsactly,
<egg|work|egg> I keep pinging myself with those eggpuns
<bofh^28> ++
* egg|work|egg meows at bofh^28 and whitequark
<egg|work|egg> !u °
<Qboid> U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN (°)
<egg|work|egg> !meow bofh^28
* Qboid meows at bofh^28
<bofh^28> !meow egg|work|egg
* Qboid meows at egg|work|egg
<egg|work|egg> !meow bofh^28 and atlas
* Qboid meows at bofh^28 and atlas
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<bofh^28> so the arcade at Grands Boulevards is called "La Tête Dans Les Nuages", which, well, @ me next time,
<egg|work|egg> heh
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<egg|cell|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a drunk mitochondrion
<UmbralRaptop> !meow what were supposed to be quick and simple scripts
* Qboid meows at what were supposed to be quick and simple scripts
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<bofh^28> !wpn egg|cell|egg
* Qboid gives egg|cell|egg a Schwartzchild metformin/coda hybrid
<egg|cell|egg> Meow
<egg|cell|egg> How is the doubling
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<egg|cell|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a visual ringularity
<UmbralRaptop> !wpn -add:wpn surprisal
<Qboid> UmbralRaptop: Weapon added!
<kmath> <✔Alex_Parker> While everyone is thinking about natural satellite nomenclature, I’d like to reiterate my proposal that retrograde… https://t.co/kfASGV64J0
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* egg meows at bofh^28
<egg> UmbralRaptop: self-petting cat
<egg> fairly smol cat too
* egg meows at whitequark
* egg meows at whitequark's DDOS-like cat
* UmbralRaptop meows at egg
<egg> !pet UmbralRaptop
* Qboid pets UmbralRaptop
* UmbralRaptop purrs
* egg moos at bofh^28
<SnoopJeDi> what is it with pictures of text
<SnoopJeDi> I get it on Twitter, but in a Medium article, *with* highlighting?!
<egg> bofh^28: so the bofhsec is now 13 h and counting
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