egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath> <sovietvisuals> "Don't dry clothes washed in gasoline by the fire" Soviet fire safety poster https://t.co/96uEs0Pmbw
* egg|anbo|egg moos at bofh^28
<B787_300> egg|anbo|egg: are your cows spherical and in focus?
<egg|anbo|egg> B787_300: there is a lot of nebulosity
<egg|anbo|egg> the clouds are hidden by it
<B787_300> that sucks
<egg|anbo|egg> B787_300: the cows i mean
<egg|anbo|egg> i suppose the clouds, too
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: why are you null
<rqou> wut?
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: Qboid says value cannot be null if you !seen someone it has not seen in a while :-p
<egg|anbo|egg> !seen kittens
<Qboid> egg|anbo|egg: Value cannot be null.
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: also while digging through backlog I found an old question of yours that I had not answered
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: https://logs.tmsp.io/kspacademia/2017-11-05#1509907631-1509907651; << yes, and it's a homophone of the same in viet
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: except in modern viet homophones are homographs, so my name is indistinguishable from "southern side"
<egg|anbo|egg> (unless you somehow know the ideographs)
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: southern egg
<rqou> heh
<rqou> oh btw egg|anbo|egg are your parents European or are you partially Vietnamese?
<egg|anbo|egg> my mother is from VN
<rqou> but (very politically incorrect questions) is she white?
<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1055239170195644417 so I've completely stopped keeping up with developments in that accursèd country atm and holy shit it's dropped my stress levels *so* much, I'm kind of astonished.
<kmath> <SollenbergerRC> Today someone tried to bomb the former President of the United States and no one was surprised
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: she's viet (aside from the passport)
<B787_300> bofh^28: two former presidents and the former heads of CIA and Justice
<rqou> oh interesting
<SnoopJeDi> bofh^28, deliberate engagement is definitely way better for mental health
<rqou> heh, so you're "half-asian"?
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: well, and the fact that she has lived in FR since 75 or so
<B787_300> bofh^28: oh and the head of the congressional black caucus (a black dem from Cali named Maxine Waters)
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: I don't actually speak viet though, however I don't have an accent (or rather I have a Sài Gòn accent) (and i can read aloud extreeemely laboriously because the writing system carries sufficient information to recontruct the pronunciation for any particular dialect even without knowing the words; no idea what i read though :D)
<B787_300> bofh^28: and whatever the hell this is https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fGPlcVIP/image.png
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: "the writing system carries sufficient information to recontruct the pronunciation for any particular dialect" << this is really weird an neat btw
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: e.g., for initial consonants: in the south v=d=[j], in the north d=r=[z], but in the south r=[ɹ] and in the north v=[v], so the three letters are separate even though in each dialect it's weirdly redundant
<bofh^28> B787_300: *stare*
<bofh^28> *boggle*
<B787_300> bofh^28: yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
<bofh^28> like what the actual shitfuck is *happening* there
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh^28: stop staring at it, it will stress you back up,
<bofh^28> (and should I just find an excuse to literally stay put in Paris until my actual damn thesis defense? :P)
<egg|anbo|egg> bofh^28: I mean you could go there and find a way not to interact with news
<egg|anbo|egg> can you put a faraday cage around your office
<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/backdoor_pharma/status/1055230320012869632 most succinct eggsplanation I've heard yet
<kmath> <backdoor_pharma> @whitequark every time I read this post I get angrier and angrier
<bofh^28> I mean that is an option worth attempting (the noninteracting with news, the faraday cage bit not so much).
<B787_300> although regarding the pipe bombs or whatever they were sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, Holder (returned to congresswoman Wasserman Schultz because that was the return address), Brennan, and Waters i have to wonder what the detonation mechanism is and why none of them didnt go off *in* the mail to the people
<B787_300> (and wondering why that selection of people was chosen)
<bofh^28> like it wouldn't surprise me if they all were effectively duds.
<bofh^28> these people aren't the sharpest tools in the shed
<B787_300> i mean Clinton, Obama and Soros i can understand, but not the left news media?
<bofh^28> (for the other extreme, some fuckhead in Wisconsin attempted to make pipe bombs and blew himself up... turns out (iirc) ETHER PEROXIDES OF ALL THINGS aren't exactly a predictable explosive).
<B787_300> putting Wasserman Schultz's address as the return address is interesting (but futile if they mailed in person at a post office)
<B787_300> bofh^28: at least he only killed himself
<B787_300> s/himself/himself?
<Qboid> B787_300 meant to say: bofh^28: at least he only killed himself?
<bofh^28> B787_300: the altreich & fuckface von clownstick have been yelling about Der Lügenpresse for how long now? them getting sent to the media makes sense.
<bofh^28> also I *really* cannot view CNN as "left". "center-right" would be a better description (with Faux being "openly fascist").
<B787_300> bofh^28: but the one sent to the media (CNN) was addressed to Brennan as he works for them occasionally
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: anyway, the writing system is cool
<B787_300> like where is the bomb to Rachel Maddow or MSNBC? as that is left media (not as far left as fox is right though)
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: and yes, "v" pronounced [j] applies, e.g., to the name of the country
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: also final "t" is often [k] in the south
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: so I would say [jiək˨˩˨] https://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vi%E1%BB%87t_Nam#Ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t
<rqou> uh, "v" pronounced [j] matches what vietnam would be called in both Cantonese and Mandarin
<egg|anbo|egg> (but further north they say some variant of [viət])
<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/bobpoekert/status/1055227149282553856 that moment when about 80 things fall into place in my head.
<kmath> <bobpoekert> @whitequark and almost all machine learning is shamelessly stolen from statistical physics
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: also 京 is pronounced kïŋ (north) to kɨn (south)
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: the northern pronunciation is quite close to the "king" romanization
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: e.g. https://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/B%E1%BA%AFc_Kinh#Ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t 北京
<rqou> also reasonably similar to Cantonese
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<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: yeah, the dialectal data in https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%BA%AC#Pronunciation points to hakka/cantonese/min for [k]
<rqou> although the romanization is weird because of English having the "word-initial stops become aspirated" thing
<egg|anbo|egg> with t͡ɕ pretty much everywhere else
<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: okay just use the EFEO romanization then :-p
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<egg|anbo|egg> rqou: hm it seems for viet cantonese has a [t] final rather than [k] like southern viet? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B6%8A#Pronunciation_1
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<rqou> yeah, it still has [t]
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<bofh^28> !wpn egg|anbo|egg
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<egg|anbo|egg> !meow bofh^28
* Qboid meows at bofh^28
<egg|anbo|egg> wait no, magnetic field, wrong force
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<bofh^28> egg|anbo|egg: ooh, nice.
<bofh^28> also rofl, "wrong force". I mean they both fall off as inverse-square...
<UmbralRaptop> uh
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:adj P2P
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptop> (Okay, both fall off at the same rate for a given number of multipoles)
<SnoopJeDi> one of my labmates was teasing the other about a copper coil magnet yesterday at lunch and coined the abominable term "tripole"
<UmbralRaptop> uh
<SnoopJeDi> more context probably helps: he was poking fun at him for overselling his work
<UmbralRaptop> ah
<bofh^28> ROFL
<bofh^28> I mean if you glue a monopole and a dipole together...
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<SnoopJeDi> bofh^28, something something Aggie engineering
<bofh^28> rofl
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<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/herlifeinpixels/status/1055514459467366400 reading this made me feel nauseated.
<kmath> <herlifeinpixels> Got the new Starbucks Witch's Brew. Thought it would be taro because purple... ⏎ ⏎ NO, STOP AND GO TO A REAL BUBBLETEA… https://t.co/NIrMcwWDug
<kmath> <jtuttlekeane> My pitch for a #Uranus/#Neptune exploration tagline: “Let’s visit the exoplanet next door.” #DPS18
<bofh^28> UmbralRaptop: lolsob :/
<UmbralRaptop> ow
<bofh^28> I mean it's ACCURATE. Which makes it all the more depressing. :/
<bofh^28> https://twitter.com/hbhammel/status/1055196521732431873 arguably this is even more depressing.
<kmath> <hbhammel> The upper slide shown by J. Eigenbrode at #DPS18 illustrates the shift in narrative for Mars exploration over the d… https://t.co/MzlriHLL3e
<bofh^28> (doesn't help that Voyager 2's narrative was mostly "well, we have this thing and it's in space and going in the right direction already, can we please have like enough funding $ to do, like, goddamn science?" :/)
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* egg|anbo|egg meows at whitequark and котеньке
* UmbralRaptop pets egg|anbo|egg with a cat.
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptop: well yes, ANBOcat pets me
<egg|anbo|egg> self-petting cat
* UmbralRaptop meows at ANBOcat
* egg|anbo|egg forwards the meowing
<egg|anbo|egg> UmbralRaptop: I am apparently bad at meowing, ANBOcat does not care
<UmbralRaptop> hm
* UmbralRaptop mrows at ANBOcat
* UmbralRaptop nyaas at ANBOcat?
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* egg is reminded of the hook length formula for reasons unlikely to become clear again
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* UmbralRaptop is confused
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* UmbralRaptop pokes markov chains, and wonders why so many fits are multiple σ away from the actual planets.
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<bofh^28> egg|cell|egg: hook length?
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<egg|cell|egg> Bofh:
<egg|cell|egg> !g hook length formula
<Qboid> egg|cell|egg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_length_formula [Hook length formula - Wikipedia] (1650000 results found, took 0.38s)
<egg|cell|egg> UmbralRaptop: ↑
<egg|cell|egg> 喵
* UmbralRaptop pets egg
* UmbralRaptop is tempted to send an email to my advisor titled "planets are fake, actually" o_O
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<egg> UmbralRaptop: do it
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<bofh^28> UmbralRaptop: do it.
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<egg> , just do it
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<iximeow> UmbralRaptop: do it
<iximeow> (did you do it yet)
<UmbralRaptop> not yet >_>;;
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* egg meows at bofh^28
<UmbralRaptop> egg: does ANBOcat now understand coordinate systems?
<egg> UmbralRaptop: at least it glared at geodesy for a bit
<egg> it seems a bit grumpy today somehow
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<iximeow> also of note: more than 0 "entry level" jobs require 10+ years of experience
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