egg|principia|egg changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspmooders | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | <SilverFox> "little" doesn't seem like a real word to me right now
<SilverFox>
ayyy I lowered taxes and now people are coming back to town
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<SilverFox>
okay now im losing money, this is bullshit
<SilverFox>
"Who should I call if no one comes to pick up the dead #movingout" I click the persons name to find their house, and it brings me to the hurse
<SilverFox>
this dead person just tweeted about not being picked up within 2 seconds
<SilverFox>
i opened up a football stadium and there's already a fucking dead person in there
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<SilverFox>
next city ill make will be a donut, with industry in the middle, commercial on the outside of that, and residence on the outside of that, I think that's the most efficient pathway for citizens
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<SilverFox>
some dudes car alarm went off, and its not going off
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<Greys>
so there's this RPG system called D20, it's like D&D but more just a set of rules without content
<Greys>
then there's this RPG system called Big Eyes, Small Mouth, it's like anime but D&D
<Greys>
then some of the later editions of BESM are in the D20 system
<Greys>
and there's one, BESM D20: Centaur Knights D20: A Hard Science Fiction Campaign
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<Greys>
2 is the only even prime number, yes?
<darklight>
Yeap
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<Greys>
is there a word for a number whose divisors are all prime?
<Supernovy>
prime
<SilverFox>
prime divisors
<darklight>
Greys: Composite numbers
<Greys>
you have all failed basic english
<darklight>
You are aware of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic I assume?
<Greys>
darklight, you have claimed that 20 is divisible by only prime numbers
<darklight>
5*2*2
<Greys>
;c 20/4
<kmath>
Greys: 5.0
<Greys>
congrats, you're wrong
<darklight>
Oh, you mean it has no composite divisors
<Greys>
6 is only divisible by 2 and 3, both are prime
<darklight>
*shrugs*
<Greys>
divisors are all prime?
<Greys>
""
<Greys>
if I murdered you with the ambiguity in front of a cop he could not arrest me
<darklight>
Hrmm... AvE doing some pixie wrangling, I had the exact same circuit in mind for my sisters table
<darklight>
(She wants an auto lift table)
<Greys>
the crusher DRM bypass?
<Greys>
you'll want to add limit switches
<Supernovy>
it's also divisible by 6 and 1
<SilverFox>
speaking of pixies, big clive did a video of shorting out batteries
<Supernovy>
neither of which are prime
<Greys>
1 never counts
<SilverFox>
6 isnt prime though
<Greys>
6 is itself
<SilverFox>
so
<Supernovy>
6 is not divisible only by primes.
<Greys>
1 never counts
<SilverFox>
you never specified this
<Supernovy>
6 is divisible by non-primes
<SilverFox>
get FUKT
<Supernovy>
1 is not a prime
<Greys>
6/6=1, doesn't count
<Supernovy>
6 is not a prime
<Greys>
yes, and it doesn't count, because 1 doesn't count
<Supernovy>
You shoulda said that
<Greys>
I don't have to, it's part of the prime rules
<darklight>
Oh god he is squishing his own bag
<Supernovy>
but 6 isn't prime, it doesn't play by prime rules.
<Greys>
I bet those bags are a more impressive work of engineering
<Greys>
they have to not burst at the sides
<SilverFox>
darklight, sargon of akkad and thunderfoot are making BUSTED videos of eachother, it's fucking great
<Greys>
what's a sargon
<darklight>
Yeah I'm aware mummy and daddy are fighting
<darklight>
Thunderfoot got a tad insufferable around brexit
<Greys>
so did britain
<darklight>
Tf00t did misrepresent sargon though, however I only watched the first hour of that stream
<darklight>
The gypsy is the one who tried to make fun of it all
<Greys>
"In recent years (in forestry and arboriculture) direct contact with a chainsaw has caused 5 deaths and many serious injuries. These do not include the high numbers of other types of accident that occur during felling, pruning and other related work. "
<Greys>
in the US: 31,000 people were treated in the hospital emergency departments in 2012 for chainsaw injuries.
<Greys>
the US does not have chainsaw licensure
<darklight>
You don't need a licence to buy a chainsaw
<Greys>
indeed I don't
<Greys>
apparently you do in britain
<darklight>
I suspect thats for people who use them commercially
<SilverFox>
Greys, people have started dying, how long until the population of my town dies off from 49k?
<Greys>
you don't need that for that in the US
<Greys>
SilverFox, current population / decay rate
<SilverFox>
uhhh, +96 people
<SilverFox>
126
<Greys>
infinity then
<SilverFox>
okay, lets see how long it can hold its own
<Greys>
C:S doesn't have a godzilla button does it
<SilverFox>
not a specific button, no
<Greys>
I have succesfully disabled the concept of modes in my second least favorite flashlight
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<SilverFox>
"fresh squeezed rum"
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<GlassYuri>
"A worker who arrives early is a saboteur, a worker who arrives late is a traitor and worker who arrives on time is a spy as they have a western alarm clock." - supposedly an USSR joke
<GlassYuri>
don't use 12h time on planets with 24h days you bitch
<darklight>
Silverfox, the best rum.
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<GlsFrg|phone>
so for the last week or so the chuuou soubu line has had an ad for a learning system based on the shit pile emoji
<GlsFrg|phone>
they just put "poop" into every example sentence
<GlsFrg|phone>
I know train advertising costs can be equivalent to my yearly tuition
<GlsFrg|phone>
and they also had to pay the advertising agency for literally polishing a turd
<VITAS>
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/161033-kerbal-space-program-update-13-%E2%80%9Caway-with-words%E2%80%9D-is-now-available/ <- final aka shall i add this to spacedock?
<darklight>
Yeah
<VITAS>
k
<darklight>
I just merged in my 1.2.9 port today
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<darklight>
It works with 1.3.0, after I changed compatibility checker :P
<VITAS>
hmm question: if someone only speaks russian would he be able to read the forum post and changelog? :D
<VITAS>
(that announces russian)
<darklight>
I'm not even protocol breaking because there are no new parts, so 1.2.2 and 1.3.0 can play together
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<VITAS>
yes it isnt to exciting
<VITAS>
1.3 added
<darklight>
1.3.0 I hope ;)
<VITAS>
ups
<darklight>
Otherwise ckan will up you
<VITAS>
changed
<VITAS>
:D
<darklight>
It's because 1.3 means 1.3.x to ckan
<darklight>
And they like being explicit on versions
<darklight>
I generally didn't care until KSP derped and pulled a 1.2.9
<VITAS>
thx for the heads up
<darklight>
"macron ignores trump and hugs merkel instead" ha
<VITAS>
naturaly
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<VITAS>
who wouldnt ignore trump if he could?
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<darklight>
Everything will be back to normal in 7.5 years.... :P
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<VITAS>
after regan and both bushes and now trump i see the overall trend to presidents with low IQs but high comedic value
<VITAS>
so please define "better"
<VITAS>
:)
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<darklight>
Maybe not, I think a lot of people are confused atm...
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<SilverFox>
alright lets see how cuckistan handles the night
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<VITAS>
yes e.g. will impeachment turn trump into a peach? and why?
<VITAS>
:D
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<RandomJeb>
he wont turn into a literal peach, but as the good book says you bring him outside the town wall, bury him to his shoulders and stone him to death with peaches
<darklight>
RandomJeb I wouldn't find islam nearly as discusting if getting stoned meant weed
<darklight>
Though to be fair they seem to be bigger on lashings for the horrible crime of cuddling outside of marriage
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<VITAS>
christians are as bad as islamists
<VITAS>
in essence: humans are inhuman
<darklight>
Eh, there's different levels of bad, we just don't really have a problem with radical christians though. The problem is bigger than that though :P
<darklight>
humans are inhumane though is probably a good way to put things however
<icefire>
native extensions on interpreted languages really drive me nuts
<icefire>
I chose the language to get away from toolchain and platform specific dependencies :|
<darklight>
What's the point of having a build system when you don't have to fiddle around with natives? :P
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<SilverFox>
ayy Cuckistan reached a population of 60k and I got to build an airport
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<Greys>
yanno what would be cool
<Greys>
a game where there's three kinds of asymmetric player; the first kind plays sim city; the second plays transport tycoon, and the third plays an economic simulator
<SilverFox>
I see where you're going with this
<Greys>
all of them take place in eachother's world; so the simcity player only has access to stuff in quantities provided by the tycoon player; the tycoon player profits by providing what the simcity player needs, which is irregular; and then the econ-sim player employs the citizens and steers the commercial/industrial stuff in both
<SilverFox>
So there's this weird phenomenae of trucks and cars just poofing
<SilverFox>
like I have a *constant* stream of trucks coming from the frieght harbor, and sometimes within 100m of them leaving, they just poof
<SilverFox>
I placed an incineration plant next to the place that has garbage problems and the trucks are instead going towards the city, many, many km away
<SilverFox>
I even made a loop so that the garbage trucks have easy and quick access to the freight facility
<Greys>
nice thing is this triasymmetric model is that you could involve a lot of players; each tycoon player would run a single transport corporation, depending on map size you could probably have maybe five of them; one simcity player could probably run up to 3 cities effectively depending on simulation speed; and you could have dozens of econ-sim players
<Greys>
imagine a game where you've got ten streamers, 5 transport corporations, 15 cities, and the viewers play the economy
<Greys>
would you pay five dollars to get an econ slot once a month?
<SilverFox>
depends on how good the game is
<Greys>
pft, game quality doesn't matter
<Greys>
it's all about the stream
<Greys>
ok so imagine you made this game, and you sold the transport and city portions for 10$, then made the econ slots available for 10 slots for 5$ per month
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<SilverFox>
goddamnit angavrilov pls not this again
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<SilverFox>
Greys, what if time travel exists, but you get reverted to how you were at the time you travel to, thus being the exact same person you were before, thus no obvious paradoxes occur, and you end up making the same decisions that lead up to you taking time travel again and you get stuck in an infinite loop and are essentially dead? #showerthoughts
<Greys>
this situation and the same situation without the time travel are the same
<Greys>
you may be living a time loop but as the you from the future or the past did not travel in any interpretation, there must be another you somewhere else
<Greys>
the easiest solution is that you in fact did not travel back in time at all, and your experience is unmodified from standard flow of time
<SilverFox>
but how do you know me from the future didnt time travel?
<Greys>
you could say right now that you did a time machine and your perception has been put into a loop, thus your forward going experience is somehow different; but that's unprovable, akin to the concept of god
<Greys>
I could state that every day a clone of me is created with all the experiences of the previous clone, and at the end of the day that clone is destroyed, thus every day we speak I have never met you beore
<Greys>
you cannot disprove this
<Greys>
it's also entirely irrelevant whether it's true or not
<SilverFox>
my forward going experience isn't going to be different because im going back to the same person I was at time travel date, and i live the same life with the same thoughts because that's how things went up until the time I travelled
<Greys>
no, that's the loop you
<SilverFox>
HOLY FUCKERIDOO THERES SO MANY DEAD PEOPLE
<SilverFox>
532 dead people
<SilverFox>
550
<SilverFox>
we have a mass genocide occuring
<Greys>
if the you in the past is not changed in any way, there must remain two of you in the timestream
<Greys>
you can't just destroy information
<SilverFox>
why not tho
<Greys>
because science
<SilverFox>
thats not valid, give me the theory papers
<Greys>
so if two must remain the other one must be forward-going from the transport event
<SilverFox>
provide evidence or some morsel of argument
<Greys>
one in the loop, one in the future
<SilverFox>
there is no future me
<Greys>
because the one in the loop did not recieve the information of the one travelling to the past, that information would be accepted by the one in the future
<SilverFox>
future me never existed because it time travelled back into the loop
<SilverFox>
you dont exist past the time of travelling
<Greys>
you must, because the things that are not being accepted by the past have to go somewhere
<Greys>
and there's this convenient period that's got a that-information-shaped-hole in it immediately after the transport event
<SilverFox>
alright, I accept this
<Greys>
let's say you've got a soul
<SilverFox>
you provided links
<Greys>
note, I don't believe in souls
<SilverFox>
neither do I
<Greys>
but say you've got one, and the transport event sent your soul back in time
<Greys>
no knowledge or state carried over, just this one intangible concept
<SilverFox>
so my body is but a husk in the future time?
<Greys>
now the you in the loop has two souls and the you in the future has no soul
<SilverFox>
right, so I just accumulate infinite souls over time
<Greys>
depending on how you interpret causality though, it could be that during the loop period you always had two souls and the older one doesn't travel back, thus the future you has one soul as well and each soul passes through this looped time space twice before continuing
<Greys>
like a rollercoaster loop-de-loop
<SilverFox>
the AI in this game is shit
<SilverFox>
I saw 3 hurses, empty, drive by a building full of dead people
<Greys>
they already had a destination, it's not like they're paramedics trawling about waiting for somebody to cut a finger off
<SilverFox>
I have crematoriums designated for each district, sometimes multiple, why the fuck are they travelling across town
<SilverFox>
im just going to accept the fact that i'll always have 500 dead people in my city now
<SilverFox>
much like the constant stream of abandoned buildings, it's just a reality
<SilverFox>
funny part is there's still people moving in
<G-Mobile>
yea if I was going to spend more than 300$ I would want a platform-Z axis instead of a lifting print head, you always want to split up your axis as much as possible to increase rigidity
<SilverFox>
this is also a good site to check out, so that your printer isn't tied to a larger working computer, but instead a network-attached-Pi, a NAP if you will
<SilverFox>
also please dont do slicing on your pi, it'll suck
<G-Mobile>
the precision of a screw thread really depends on how it was made and how much they cared
<SilverFox>
well ima tell you these rods aint that good
<SilverFox>
lots of complaints on their cheapness and plenty of upgrades centered around them
<G-Mobile>
sure, but going up to a lead screw is not cheap
<SilverFox>
indeed
<G-Mobile>
plus you gotta get a follower, and they gotta bees compatible
<G-Mobile>
getting a better threaded rod is relatively cheap
<SilverFox>
yeah, I heard it's a lot of work
<SilverFox>
also you can set up livestreaming with your printputer
<G-Mobile>
acme thread is great and all, but this is not so high force as to require that kind of robustitude
<G-Mobile>
prinputer, get it right
<SilverFox>
aight fine
<SilverFox>
jeezers
<G-Mobile>
anyway, it should be relatively trivial to get a well made threaded rod instead of a chinite threaded rod, and I bet that'll fix the accuracy problem
<G-Mobile>
I still want to bring the precision down by 1:2~1:3
<SilverFox>
idk if it's possible to back up the firmware on the machine, but if you can find a way, I'd recommend that, and then if you can write firmware to it, you can try writing some opensource reprap firmware like marlin or something, tinker with that and see how she chooches
<SilverFox>
would make it so you dont have to fuck with all the models
<Greys>
you can see them from a foot above her head
<Greys>
that's a relative foot not an actual foot, because she's 8 inches tall
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<SilverFox>
why are you watching a kancolle ripoff? and what was the name of that show where there was an all girls academy on ships that wasn't kancolle?
<SilverFox>
like, they piloted the ships and got framed and captured bitches
<SilverFox>
"Thing(s) my teacher(s) can do better: Not use collective punishment as it is not fair on the many people who did nothing wrong and under the 1949 Genva Conventions it is a war crime."
<SilverFox>
thats pretty good
<SilverFox>
apparently the red pill movie won the Women in Film award
<Greys>
isn't that Foldable Human's movie
<Greys>
I fucking hate this keyboard
<Greys>
I have to fucking bob my hands up and down to relaibly have enough force in my fingers to actually push the damn buttons
<SilverFox>
print a better keyboard
<Greys>
the problem is the key mechanism; I can do just about everything else
<SilverFox>
print a new one
<Greys>
that's not really a suitable thing to 3D print
<Greys>
I couldn't convey to you on this fucking keyboard 20 years of engineering consideration
<SilverFox>
what is the mechanism?
<SilverFox>
scissor?
<Greys>
this one isn't mechanical, so probably some sort of dome switch
<Greys>
yep, dome switches
<SilverFox>
ill look it u
<Greys>
I think the real problem is the plastic they've built it out of and the tolerances they decided on cause the shaft and pin to bind at nearly all angles
<Greys>
I like the overall design of the keyboard but it's such a constant irritation; and I've been using it for most of a year
<Greys>
when I can I'll buy one of the higher end models with mechanical switches, some of the lighter activation force ones
<SilverFox>
for your soft gentle hands?
<Greys>
mostly revenge
<Greys>
this thing is like typing into a solid block of clay
<Greys>
the thing I hate about shopping for PC peripherals is that I hate LED lighting
<SilverFox>
so why not turn it off or disable it or unwire it?
<Greys>
I do
<Greys>
but that shit ain't free
<Greys>
so the basic mechanical variant of this keyboard is the K65 (I have K40), the K65 doesn't have a numpad so it's out; but it also doesn't have lighting
<Greys>
the K65 is 90$
<Greys>
I paid 60$ for the K40
<SilverFox>
upgrade to the WD40 model
<Greys>
the K70 line has mechanical switches, and the numpad, but also lighting
<Greys>
the cheapest line of K70, the K70 Lux RGB, is 159$
<Greys>
;wa 159/90
<kmath>
Greys: 159/90 = 53/30
<Greys>
oh right
<Greys>
you fuck
<Greys>
;c 159/90
<kmath>
Greys: 1.7666666666666666
<Greys>
77% more for lights that I don't want
<SilverFox>
76.7%
<Greys>
and if you round that to the nearest integer
<Greys>
there's fricken 18 bonus keys not including the media shit; and they're entirely useless
<Greys>
the thing about theys keys is they cannot be bound to anything that does not exist already on the keyboard
<Greys>
keystrokes only, no useful macro capacity to be had
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<Greys>
are eggs meat
<SilverFox>
uhhh
<SilverFox>
Fun fact, the sun is approximately 8 CVS receipts from the Earth
<Greys>
only at night though
<Greys>
in the day the solar heating would cause them to stop being CVS receipts before the measure could be performed
<SilverFox>
ooh boy, incoming video of linus benchmarking a pc the size of a kleenex box
<Greys>
I should build a machine that looks and works suspiciously similar to a paper shredder except it's got a built in hot air system to fully blacken any thermopaper receipts inserted before shredding them