<icefire>
look at the price range amds new chips are competing with
<Iskierka>
server grade stuff where the purchasers will pay a premium for intel's better proven reliability, bar the outlier i7s
<Iskierka>
likely also for intel-specific features as well
<icefire>
yeah, and consumers can get that server grade performance for 1/2 the cost
<Iskierka>
which isn't what the xeons are competing for
<Iskierka>
the only ones that are the actual competition are the i7s, one which is comparable but slightly worse PPD, the other of which is notably more powerful for notably more money and therefore for the people with more money than sense anyway
<icefire>
the closest consumer chips are the 6900k at $1k and 6850 at $600
<Pinkbeast>
Is the pelican OK? I'm not sure I want to know what happened next but I bet it was very loud
<UmbralRaptor>
The longer version of what Ryan says in that context has a less, uh, scary point. But it requires an assumption that there is dignity in basically all forms of work. Which, uh, I rather disagree on. Lots of jobs are just a slog to keep unpsectacular things going. Others are of unclear purpose, exist only because of broken systems, and/or actively make the world worse.
<UmbralRaptor>
But, this also gets into needing to get people into nifty things outside of the standard jobs.
<UmbralRaptor>
Also, the consideration that jobs that are worth doing and/or have dignity may require a lot of resources to ge the person into. (consider how many require a degree.)
<UmbralRaptor>
...anyway...
<Pinkbeast>
... it's very convenient for capital that work is morally right and so labour should be forced to do it?