UmbralRaptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fano. We currently target 1.3.1, 1.4.x, 1.5.1, and 1.6.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — !principia
<discord-_> R​O Bot. — Download the latest version of Principia from https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/blob/master/README.md; make sure to download the right one for the version of KSP that you are using (otherwise the game will crash on load).
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<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — how does one remove a DLC from Kerbal Space Program? Principia doesn't run with 1.7.1
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — damnit. I have to reinstall KSP 170
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — well. 1.6.1 (can't download 170)
<UmbralRaptop> For breaking ground DLC, I'd guess that you can delete a folder in GameData. For 1.7.0, I hope you kept an old zip around?
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — nope. removing the SquadExtensions folder doesn't change the KSP version.
<discord-_> D​amien. — You on steam?
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — nope. direct download from kerbalspaceprogram.com
<discord-_> D​amien. — Ah
<discord-_> D​amien. — F
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — it's ok, I've already got like 33% of 1.6.1 😃
<discord-_> D​amien. — If you get stuck someone on steam could grab it for you
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — actually
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Kerbalism 3.0.2 + tilted belts
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Config that actually tilts the belts
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — the important bit is in Radiation.cfg
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — ```
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — RadiationBody
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — {
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — name = Kerbin
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — radiation_model = earth // model used to determine zones
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — radiation_inner = 10.0 // rad/h inside the inner belt
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — radiation_outer = 2.0 // rad/h inside the outer belt
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — radiation_pause = -0.010 // rad/h inside the magnetopause
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — geomagnetic_pole_lat = 80.37 // lat of the geomagnetic north pole
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — geomagnetic_pole_lon = -72.62 // lon of the geomagnetic north pole
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — }
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — ```
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — if not set differently, the geomagnetic pole is at 90/0 so you wouldn't see a difference without that config
<discord-_> D​amien. — @Standecco
<UmbralRaptop> … does this mean that you can set an absurd radiation model like a pulsar?
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — it does
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — something like that 😃 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQPQKub2yk4
<kmath> YouTube - Kerbalism Van Allen Belt with geomagnetic pole near the equator: Kerbal Space Program
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — @egg looks good https://youtu.be/pkpFJfqrjh4
<kmath> YouTube - Kerbalism Radiation Belts: extreme tilt test with Principia and Kopernicus
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<discord-_> D​amien. — @Sir Mortimer have you tested it in RSS?
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — No. This is stock & Kopernicus
<discord-_> T​heRealWiwaxia. — heretical, shut this channel down immediately!
<discord-_> D​amien. — B&
<discord-_> D​amien. — @Sir Mortimer I take it it'd be relatively simple to write the RSS configs right?
<discord-_> D​amien. — we can't test it until @Standecco adds it to ROKerbalism's config
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — It’s two lines to add
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — You can do it 😉
<discord-_> D​amien. — >implying I can read
<discord-_> D​amien. — I shitpost via text to speech on a google home
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Are the RO kerbalism belts at the right altitude? They seemed high when I looked yesterday.
<discord-_> D​amien. — probably not
<discord-_> D​amien. — you got any data on the correct positions?
<discord-_> B​utcher. — My sat with apogee of 1125km was well short of the inner belt, like several thousand km short. Inner belt should start around 1000 km.
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Just what I googled quickly.
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Some rough numbers here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Inner should be 1000km to 6000km, outer 13000 to 60000
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Radiation.cfg defines a earth radiation model at the top. Probably need to change some values there
<discord-_> D​amien. — why is the kerbalism middle belt a donut anyway?
<discord-_> D​amien. — I've never seen it shown like that on a diagram
<discord-_> D​amien. — fuck you wikipedia
<discord-_> D​amien. — there we go
<discord-_> D​amien. — it's more kidney shaped
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Hmm, SpaceWeather = false for RO?
<discord-_> D​amien. — I used to run it disabled but I've no idea what it's on now
<discord-_> D​amien. — only because I was sick of it stopping warp because of the notifications
<discord-_> B​utcher. — I have default config.
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Inner and outer dist are both 2.0, no idea what units/
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<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Body radius
<discord-_> B​utcher. — Hmm, so it more or less is correct.
<discord-_> B​utcher. — @Sir Mortimer I have your alignment thing added to my RO config, I'll let you know what happens...
<discord-_> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer you want to tilt and give belts to Duna so it's actually tilted
<discord-_> e​gg. — Here the universe is tilted
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — oh, good point
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<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — with a craft cheated into Duna orbit
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — so the belts are where they're supposed to be. don't know if Duna is tilted correctly tho
<discord-_> e​gg. — It all looks good
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — the kidney shape would require a function that is a bit more elaborate than the current inner_func
<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — this here defines the shape of the inner belt, the particle mesh is generated based on this
<discord-_> S​tandecco. — I'll make a PR to the RSS radiation model in the support folder of kerbalism core
<discord-_> S​tandecco. — Until the end of June I'll not be available very often, due to exams
<discord-_> S​tandecco. — So you might have to wait for some time
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<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2199: Apply some ReSharper fixes to our code - https://git.io/fjgmf
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<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2199: Apply some ReSharper fixes to our code - https://git.io/fjgmf
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy pushed 9 commits to master [+2/-0/±71] https://git.io/fjgOu
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy 96c4029 - Try to build a Resharper config.
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy ccfb3c8 - A better Resharper config.
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy 7114365 - More tweaking of the configuration.
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] ... and 6 more commits.
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<discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — What would a reasonable requirement be for a mission that detects the presence and shape if radiation belts?
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<discord-_> D​amien. — Good question
<discord-_> D​amien. — I'll have to think about that
<discord-_> D​amien. — Clearly Geiger counter over some duration but hitting the same part of the belt repeatedly wouldn't be enough
<discord-_> D​amien. — Then can the belt be split into quadrants?
<discord-_> D​amien. — can the belt be split into quadrants? (edited)
<discord-_> D​amien. — Hit 3/4 to get the readings
<discord-_> D​amien. — A few elliptical orbits like Explorer I could do it then
<discord-_> D​amien. — For earth anyway
<discord-_> D​amien. — Or maybe just keep it simple and if you hit the belt you see it
<discord-_> D​amien. — Not sure how in depth you want to go
<UmbralRaptop> time + space stuff, I suspect
<UmbralRaptop> compare with RBSP
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<discord-_> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer something something cluster