00:02 <discord-_> h​ooya. — is 1.7.1 principia available

00:02 <discord-_> h​ooya. — or have i been blind

00:21 <discord-_> N​icholas Kirschabum. — ^^ my question as well

00:30 <discord-_> e​gg. — Fatou explicitely says 1.7.0 https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Change-Log#fatou, so it's not in Fatou; it will very likely be in the next version, which comes with the next new moon

00:30 <discord-_> e​gg. — if you want it earlier, you need to lower the orbit of the moon

01:44 <discord-_> T​heRealWiwaxia. — *googles next new moon*

01:44 <discord-_> T​heRealWiwaxia. — July 2nd

06:16 <discord-_> B​utcher. — @egg cool, I'll buy some space on a Falcon 9 heavy for some retro rockets for the moon...

06:46 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — @Butcher compile it yourself, that's a tad cheaper. but no less complicated.

06:47 <discord-_> B​utcher. — @Sir Mortimer I do. I'm currently running a built from source version.

07:28 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — `The magnetic centre is displaced northwards along the axis by about 0.04 Saturn Radii`

07:28 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — hommm

07:31 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — origin/tilted_belts

07:31 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — http://evildrganymede.net/work/magfield.htm (edited)

07:36 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — the rings could be offset by a config value along the axis of the magnetic dipole

07:36 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — and the magnetopause could be offset by some semi-random value that simulates the strength of solar wind...

07:37 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — wow. jupiter is massive.

07:37 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Within 20 RJ are immense radiation belts similar in nature to the Terran Van Allen belts, but over 10,000 times as powerful. Highly energetic particles are trapped within these belts - Pioneer 10 (the first spacecraft to fly through the belts) was very heavily irradiated, receiving a total dose of over 250,000 rads from the protons and electrons therein. For comparison, a whole body dose of

07:38 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — The magnetosphere itself is huge, extending at least 650 million km downwind of the planet, and has been detected as far as the orbit of Saturn

07:40 <discord-_> D​amien. — Oof

07:45 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — 250000 rads.

07:45 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — jools inner belt has 200.

07:45 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — and that's deadly as it is

09:58 <discord-_> B​utcher. — Don't fly through the belt. Come in over the pole or something...

12:55 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Bop.

12:55 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. —

12:55 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — Who said the magnetic field has to be centered on the body?

12:55 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/587988364247040002/Bildschirmfoto_2019-06-11_um_14.52.46.png

13:00 <discord-_> D​amien. — madman

13:05 <discord-_> B​utcher. — @Sir Mortimer I tried your tilted belts in RSS on Earth, I think it worked.

13:13 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — @Butcher I just updated the RSS radiation model config. the fields for the ice giants now should be a bit more... interesting.

13:14 <discord-_> D​amien. — ❤

13:16 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — and good news for stock: Laythe is outside the innermost radiation belt of jool.

13:17 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — but Laythe is as far as you get to go alive.

13:17 <discord-_> D​amien. — nice

13:18 <discord-_> D​amien. — what are your thoughts on the probe core thing?

13:32 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — doable. i'd extend the functionality of the failure module to support radiation reducing the MTBF, and maybe add a config to the science modules that can make them record data slower when they're damaged by radiation

13:33 <discord-_> D​amien. — damn, I was just asking you again on yoru discord

13:33 <discord-_> D​amien. — damn, I was just asking you again on your discord (edited)

13:33 <discord-_> D​amien. — @Sir Mortimer I didn't think of science affects but that's genius

13:33 <discord-_> D​amien. — also: HDD size reduction

13:34 <discord-_> D​amien. — bad sectors increase over time

13:34 <discord-_> D​amien. — currently ROKerbalism has unlimited drives (proc avionics issues) but it'll come

13:34 <discord-_> D​amien. — @Kurgut get hype

13:35 <discord-_> S​ir Mortimer. — actually, could you put that on github please? as a feature request?

13:36 <discord-_> D​amien. — sure if my login is saved on my work pc

13:36 <discord-_> D​amien. — otherwise when I get home

13:38 <discord-_> G​ordon Dry. — B1 - Wear Levelling Count

13:38 <discord-_> G​ordon Dry. — Caould also be a thing. Kinda MTBF for the hard drive

13:38 <discord-_> G​ordon Dry. — Could also be a thing. Kinda MTBF for the hard drive (edited)

13:40 <discord-_> D​amien. — I'm still holding out hope that we can have geiger counter audio that changes with the data being recorded by the experiment

13:40 <discord-_> D​amien. — hearing it click like chernobyl when we cross belts

14:04 <discord-_> D​amien. — @Sir Mortimer <https://github.com/Kerbalism/Kerbalism/issues/424>

14:05 <discord-_> D​amien. — @Standecco

14:11 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] MiracleMagician commented on issue #2196: Peformance issue when vessel isn't newly launched - https://git.io/fjgrj

14:49 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2196: Peformance issue when vessel isn't newly launched - https://git.io/fjgKq

14:52 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — That's nice

14:52 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — Partial failures instead of complete breaking are important imo

14:52 <discord-_> D​amien. — ^

14:52 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — If there's only a complete breaking, I might not add that

14:53 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — Unless you can "rad hard" that probe core

14:53 <discord-_> D​amien. — yeah you'd have to be able to harden it

14:53 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — It would be nice to include ibernation

14:53 <discord-_> D​amien. — and shield it

14:53 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — You can survive passing through the belt while unshielded if you ibernate the probe

14:53 <discord-_> D​amien. — but experiment duration/hdd capacity degradation would be pretty interesting

14:54 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — That's how they prevented instruments from being destroyed irl too

14:54 <discord-_> D​amien. — that and reduced MTBF for electronic parts

14:54 <discord-_> D​amien. — you have to have failures at some point

14:55 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — You mean in ROKerbalism?

14:55 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — About that, I planned on adding reliability, but it might add only another layer of grind to probes

14:55 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — UNLESS you could assemble a ground team and fix the problem from earth, like in BARIS

14:59 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy labeled issue #2196: Peformance issue when vessel isn't newly launched - https://git.io/fjzir

15:00 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy assigned issue #2196: Peformance issue when vessel isn't newly launched - https://git.io/fjzir

15:01 <discord-_> D​amien. — I didn't know that reliability was disabled in ROK tbh

15:01 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] eggrobin edited issue #2196: The no name node glitch still persists - https://git.io/fjzir

15:01 <discord-_> D​amien. — I usually disable it anyway

15:01 <discord-_> D​amien. — but I'd reenable it if it was interesting

15:02 <discord-_> D​amien. — from leaving it enabled in smurff if did make things tricky

15:02 <discord-_> D​amien. — from leaving it enabled in smurff it did make things tricky (edited)

15:02 <discord-_> D​amien. — but most errors didn't cause mission failure because of redundancy (panels etc) or from being fixed remotely

15:05 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — how can you fix it remotely?

15:08 <discord-_> D​amien. — it's automatic

15:08 <discord-_> D​amien. — 'there was an error but we fixed it'

15:09 <discord-_> D​amien. — <https://kerbalism.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reliability.html>

15:09 <discord-_> D​amien. — ```Every time a component fails on an unmanned vessel, there is a chance that it will be fixed remotely by mission control engineers.```

15:11 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — mh

15:11 <discord-_> S​tandecco. — that could be expanded

15:13 <discord-_> D​amien. — don't let your dreams be dreams

18:25 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjg1e

18:25 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy 64deb4d - Clarify some issues that may be found when building

18:47 <discord-_> D​amien. — a visual guide to principia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPUdhm2VE-o

18:47 <kmath> YouTube - Jerobeam Fenderson - Spirals

19:34 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjgMJ

19:34 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy b4b87f0 - Unload, not delete.