UmbralRaptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is 🐎. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<discord-> R​each. — 😉
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<discord-> S​tandecco. — @egg now that the mocks are available, are you working on the new UI?
<discord-> e​gg. — I'm not, pleroy might look at that at some point (probably starting with the reference frame selector?) but we want to try moving to a less-insane UI framework in the process
<discord-> e​gg. — @Standecco as usual, things take time
<discord-> e​gg. — much more than you might expect
<discord-> e​gg. — See also "just showing orbital elements" which is still not there and has been WIP since the beginning of the year
<discord-> S​tandecco. — np, I was just asking if a new UI would be coming
<discord-> D​amien. — @Standecco it's coming with KSPrincipia2 next month
<discord-> S​tandecco. — wow, very nice
<discord-> S​tandecco. — update to ksp 1.8 when??1?!!?!
<discord-> D​amien. — the KSP community got together and demanded KSP2 releases immediately and with n-body built in
<discord-> S​tandecco. — for sure it worked
<discord-> S​tandecco. — about ksp2, those binary planets are going to be terrible without n-body
<discord-> S​tandecco. — unless they find an extremely hacky solution
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<discord-> e​gg. — Sigma had done some things in the hacky direction iirc
<discord-> S​tandecco. — right, the sigma binary mod
<discord-> S​tandecco. — how does a vessel orbiting within the 2 work?
<discord-> S​tandecco. — and do you know how the mod works in the first place?
<discord-> e​gg. — there's a fake body that the two orbits, it's weird
<discord-> e​gg. — ask Sigma
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<discord-> S​tandecco. — so it works from the planet's perspective, but if there's another body how does a vessel orbit the planets?
<discord-> e​gg. — not sure how the details work out (especially near the singularity); again, ask Sigma
<discord-> S​tandecco. — not sure where to find him
<discord-> e​gg. — On the Kopernicus server
<discord-> S​tandecco. — nor where to find information about the mod either
<discord-> S​tandecco. — oh, I joined that today
<discord-> S​tandecco. — nice coincidence
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<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Duna is a fun planet to orbit below 500km.
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Ike really throws things off
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Managed to gravity-assist myself out of Ikes orbit into a high orbit above Duna. It looks stable.
<discord-> S​tandecco. — I have a new objective
<discord-> S​tandecco. — I have a new philosophy (edited)
<discord-> S​tandecco. — stock with principia, RO without
<discord-> S​tandecco. — it's driven by wanting to do something in RO and not being stopped by low fps
<discord-> S​tandecco. — I know that it's not going to work though
<discord-> S​tandecco. — and those mascons in every planet, they're too tempting
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<discord-> D​amien. — @Standecco in the name of actual progress you might be right
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #2311: Fix the diurnal build - https://git.io/fjAbS
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<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2311: Fix the diurnal build - https://git.io/fjAbS
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2311: Fix the diurnal build - https://git.io/fjAbS
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±9] https://git.io/fjAA1
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin b264756 - forgot to save the solution
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin 484d46e - mark PlayerTest.*Debug as secular
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin 6814e11 - mark PlayerTest.*Benchmarks as secular
<_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] ... and 3 more commits.
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<discord-> e​gg. — however, mascons :-)
<discord-> e​gg. — (or even plain old oblateness, Earth's J2 makes things fun already)
<discord-> S​umguy. — patched conics are no fun, though
<discord-> S​umguy. — so, I was wondering if a space tether would work with the current physics. How does tension even work and would it even work with a gravitational gradient, or would it summon a kraken?
<discord-> n​eph. — What's a space tether?
<discord-> e​gg. — we treat vessels as massless points, so no
<discord-> l​pg. — so no artificial moon creating tidal forces either?
<discord-> l​amont. — if i was a massless point i wouldn't need to go for a jog tonight
<discord-> S​tandecco. — I was thinking about a space elevator mod
<discord-> S​tandecco. — something you invest trillions of funds in building and obviously has tech requirements
<discord-> S​tandecco. — but once you got it, it's a space elevator!
<discord-> S​tandecco. — would be very useful in KSP 2 where you might have something to do in orbit, but would be cool in KSP 1 too
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<discord-> S​umguy. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum_exchange_tether @neph (edited)
<discord-> n​eph. — huh
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