#principia on 2019-08-31 — irc logs at esper.irclog.whitequark.org

2019-08-18 16:37 UmbralRaptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is 🐎. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…

00:17 <discord-_> lpg. — [I hope] it helps with long-term planning

00:18 <discord-_> lpg. — by identifying rough transfer windows via MJ

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03:08 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] kc9jud commented on issue #2297: Strange missing redistributable VC++ runtime error - https://git.io/fjxhY

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04:27 <discord-_> PataSolar. — just wanted to say thank you and i love principia. great work. everything looking good so far with 1.3.1 using an older version. slowly getting my head around the theory and UI

04:33 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — First time principia user: "What in the world"

04:33 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/617215346725617674/unknown.png

04:34 <discord-_> neph. — ooooh nice

04:35 <discord-_> neph. — Simple: lunar flyby is throwing you into a wider orbit. That orbit keeps getting jiggled by the moon

04:35 <discord-_> PataSolar. — dude, play with lagrange points. they're magical

04:35 <discord-_> neph. — I still have never done that

04:35 <discord-_> neph. — Really wish there were more principia-specific contracts...

04:35 <discord-_> neph. — Really wish there were more principia-specific RP-1 contracts... (edited)

04:36 <discord-_> PataSolar. — there's definitely functionality to having comm relays at L4 & L5

04:40 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Still questioning how to made a manuever...

04:41 <discord-_> PataSolar. — read the wiki and watch some youtube

04:41 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Update on the mun mission: Started going up.... for some reason

04:41 <discord-_> PataSolar. — stock solar system?

04:41 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — yea

04:42 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Testing principia on stock ksp so I know what im dealing with in RO

04:42 <discord-_> neph. — dont like that av

04:42 <discord-_> neph. — dont like it at all

04:42 <discord-_> neph. — creepy ass shit

04:43 <discord-_> PataSolar. — @neph i wonder if a contract could check the parametres of a principia orbits rather than the stock conics

04:44 <discord-_> neph. — for the irc guys: this shit, don't like it:

04:44 <discord-_> neph. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/617218027645173771/unknown.png

04:44 <discord-_> neph. — Anyways, @PataSolar that is not a question for me.

04:45 <discord-_> PataSolar. — true

04:45 <discord-_> neph. — While I know the RP-1 guys don't want to add extra dependencies, I'd love to see some libration point contracts

04:45 <discord-_> neph. — JWST...

04:46 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Neph, Im not sure what you were saying, is my pfp unexceptable for the server?

04:46 <discord-_> neph. — And if there were somehow (very much doubt it) to say "we want you to try a low-energy transfer," or "prove that ballistic capture works"

04:46 <discord-_> neph. — @Jwsavage naw dawg you fine just creepy af

04:46 <discord-_> neph. — Gives me the jimmies

04:46 <discord-_> neph. — It's some cursed images shit

04:46 <discord-_> neph. — tf is wrong with that dudes eyeballs

04:49 <discord-_> lpg. — there's at least some rp-1 contracts that flat-out aren't going to work with principia, at least without some sort of station-keeping mod (hello GPS network contract, no I'm never doing you again)

04:50 <discord-_> PataSolar. — oh shit, yeah I hadn't really thought about that. I wonder how f'd my career will be now

04:50 <UmbralRaptop> consider: SOHO, ACE, DSCOVR, ISEE, Herschel, and Genesis for L-point contracts

04:50 <discord-_> PataSolar. — I'll just have to make sure I regularly bring up the stock conics to see where I'm at

04:50 <UmbralRaptop> Relatedly, TESS

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04:51 <discord-_> PataSolar. — damn I can't stop thinking about that ISEE youtube video

04:52 <discord-_> PataSolar. — I dream about it

04:52 <discord-_> PataSolar. — hope to see more videos from whoever that was

04:54 <discord-_> PataSolar. — Reach

06:59 <discord-_> Damien. — @neph @PataSolar there is a principia contracts mod. It's only a framework so far but you can have parameters that equate to various Lagrange points

07:03 <discord-_> Damien. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/617253162100850711/screenshot34.png

07:05 <discord-_> Damien. — Pap forked it from rsparkyc and kurgut was writing some test contracts

07:28 <discord-_> PataSolar. — thanks @Damien might have a look at some point

08:32 <discord-_> Standecco. — I wonder where kurgut went

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10:23 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpvK

10:23 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpv6

10:23 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpvi

11:26 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #2316: Fix the diurnal build more - https://git.io/fjpf4

11:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2302 commit - https://git.io/fjpfg

12:22 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2316: Fix the diurnal build more - https://git.io/fjpf4

12:25 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2302 commit - https://git.io/fjpJZ

12:25 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #2302: Ground track analysis - https://git.io/fjAv1

12:50 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2297: Strange missing redistributable VC++ runtime error - https://git.io/fjpJ6

12:54 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2317: Add support for Disco Dingo and Clang 8 - https://git.io/fjpJX

12:54 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy edited pull request #2317: Add support for Disco Dingo and Clang 8 - https://git.io/fjpJX

13:24 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2317: Add support for Disco Dingo and Clang 8 - https://git.io/fjpJX

13:40 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2317: Add support for Disco Dingo and Clang 8 - https://git.io/fjpJX

13:40 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://git.io/fjpUt

13:40 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy 1d7de64 - Support for Disco and Clang 8.

13:40 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy d549c5d - Migrate to Disco.

13:40 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy bd889a9 - Merge pull request #2317 from pleroy/DiscoDingo Add support for Disco Dingo and Clang 8

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14:58 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpTz

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16:41 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpkF

16:50 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpkA

16:53 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2312: Use C# 8 and the nullable reference type specification in the adapter - https://git.io/fjxOh

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17:37 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpIg

17:37 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpI2

17:37 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpIa

17:37 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpIw

17:37 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2312 commit - https://git.io/fjpIr

17:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/fjpIK

17:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin 8d64d30 - Close files only once

17:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin 2f141a5 - Merge pull request #2316 from eggrobin/fix-the-diurnal-build Fix the diurnal build more

17:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2316: Fix the diurnal build more - https://git.io/fjpf4

17:39 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] pleroy labeled pull request #2302: Ground track analysis - https://git.io/fjAv1

17:47 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] Pending. Build queued… -

17:47 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3851/

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18:23 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] Failure. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3851/

18:23 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3852/

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18:57 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] Failure. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/3852/

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19:56 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Is "Fáry" the latest version for 1.6.1?

19:56 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — so i can use it in my RO

19:56 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — wait nvm

19:56 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Idk how to download it

20:00 <discord-_> Jwsavage. — Where do you go to download principia 1.6.1?

20:00 <UmbralRaptop> sudo apt-get install ksp-principia

20:00 <discord-_> Sumguy. — pfft

20:01 <UmbralRaptop> More seriously, there's a link for del Ferro on the github page

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20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Wait

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — How can the bot speak

20:20 <UmbralRaptop> …

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — BRO

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — WHAT

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — SToP

20:20 <UmbralRaptop> The bot is a bridge to an IRC channel

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Oh ok

20:20 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — That means nothing to me but ok

20:20 <UmbralRaptop> There are real birbs speaking

20:21 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Okay so

20:21 <UmbralRaptop> (Also, I've now failed the Turing test 2 or 3 times >_<)

20:21 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — How Many parts will crash Principia

20:21 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — That’s my question

20:21 * UmbralRaptop doesn't know, probably a lot

20:21 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Because I have an Evil Idea

20:21 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — And it starts with the Number 3065

20:22 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — That being Part Count

20:23 <UmbralRaptop> uh, I'm not sure stock can handle that

20:24 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Mine can

20:29 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Mine can handle a 3065 station with a 2000+ rocket within a kilometer

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21:42 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — But yeah

21:42 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — You’re probably right

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22:38 <egg> I mean, 2 ** 63 parts is probably a bad idea, and 2 ** 31 will probably be enough to cause mayhem

22:39 <egg> but other than that I don't think there really is a hard limit

22:39 <egg> other than your patience and the memory on your computer

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22:48 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Very nice

22:48 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/617490846794645544/image0.jpg

22:50 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Imagine this in a decaying orbit

22:50 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Chaos

22:55 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #2302: Ground track analysis - https://git.io/fjAv1

22:55 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — But what’s nice is

22:56 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Well shit I’ve forgotten the angle

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22:57 <discord-_> egg. — augh, that `2 ** 63` and `2 ** 31` came out weird on this side of the @鹊桥IRC bridge

22:58 <discord-_> egg. — @Mars Puppy anyway, as UmbralRaptop said, @鹊桥IRC is a bot that relays everything that is said here on an IRC channel, and everything that is said on that IRC channel here

22:58 <discord-_> egg. — i.e., it bridges the channels

22:58 <discord-_> egg. — i.e., it is a bridge

22:59 <discord-_> egg. — that's why it's called 鹊桥

22:59 <discord-_> lpg. — bridges usually cross channels

23:00 * discord-_ egg. — grumbles at liquefied petroleum gas_

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23:25 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Where does the bridge lead

23:25 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — @egg

23:25 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — The bot must be outputting me somewhere

23:25 <discord-_> Mars Puppy. — Or a bot anyway

23:27 <_whitenotifier-cd19> [Principia] eggrobin commented on pull request #2302: Ground track analysis - https://git.io/fjpma

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23:33 <UmbralRaptop> irc.esper.net

23:34 <UmbralRaptop> The channel is #principia

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