egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
<queqiao-> ⟨expanders are superior⟩ Is there anything needed for simulating mission like a year out
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Can someone help me with download and adding to gamedata folder
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ There is a principia.os and idk what that ir
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Is*
<queqiao-> ⟨Quadrupole⟩ Did you ever read the README?
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Where is the readme
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ There is no readme
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ indeed, this is a figment of a deranged imagination: https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/#readme
<queqiao-> ⟨DRVeyl⟩ We are all mad here.
<queqiao-> ⟨Vlood⟩ ⟪egg⟫ indeed, this is a figment of a deranged […] ⮪ Is that in the "forbidden knowledge" section?
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Still doesnt explain what is that principia.os
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ And how to install it
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ I am new to this
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Mod
<paculino> The installation link is found in the readme, unless you want to build it yourself (you don't)
<queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ Hint: if the installation instructions in the readme are stumping you, perhaps Principia is not for you. Consider it an entry exam
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Bro i just want to play principia, im not good at english bc is my second language
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Im not good at riddles oe anuthing technical
<paculino> Oh, I'm sorry. Here the link you need to use is highlighted.
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Anything*
<queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ I mean its not complicated, there is a link to the release download right near the top
<queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ And from there its an isntall like any other mod
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ So i downloaded the binary instead of the mod itself?
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Damn
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Im stupid
<paculino> It is the most common mistake
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Im sorry thx for your time :)
<queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ A llot of people make the mistake of trying to install the source repo, not the compiled release. I ... may... have done that myself originally
<paculino> I did it once when I was updating, which makes it worse
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ look its the same i downloaded
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ what is that principia.so
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ what do i do there
<paculino> First, unzip the .zip
<paculino> Then, open the GameData folder and copy/move the folder named Principia into the GameData folder in your KSP installation
<paculino> Do not mess with anything inside of the Principia folder to install it
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ look its the same i downloaded ⮪ this is the unzipped .zip
<paculino> Steps 1-4
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ what is this
<paculino> Are you dragging Principia.so to your GameData? You drag the folder Principia there
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ thats gamedata and principia folder
<paculino> I do not know what is causing the problem then
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ what about this file?
<paculino> That looks like the source code there
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ so i cant place that in ksp gamedata?
<paculino> No
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ then i'll just wait to see if the ksp menu pops up
<paculino> Just the folder named Principia, it should be moving ...\principia ἥρων for 1.12.3\GameData\Principia to ...\Kerbal Space Program\GameData
<paculino> Principia should contain folders: assets, Lunx64, localization, MacOS64, real_solar_system, and x64, along with ksp_plugin_adapter.dll, ksp_plugin_adapter.dll.confing, and ksp_plugin_adapter.pdb
<queqiao-> ⟨Zavian⟩ ⟪ScaryBoss564⟫ what is this ⮪ That looks like some sort of anti-malware protection. I've got no idea how to by-pass that on OS-X
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ yeah i did it alr
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ in settings
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ i let it open
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ Screen_Shot_2022-06-16_at_10.23.31_p.m..[…] ⮪ then just the screen stays like that
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ Did you restart KSP?
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ 3 times
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ nothing worked
<queqiao-> ⟨ScaryBoss564⟩ i just gave up
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ Ok, I’ll try to reproduce
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ I was able to download Ἥρων, install it, and load a save without issue other than Gatekeeper (which you seem to have already bypassed). Your folder structure seems correct to me. Do you have Principia logs? They will be in <KSP dir>/glog/Principia.
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<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ I am not saying that it explains anything, but I want to point out that Principia does not support KSP 1.12.1. As I recall, there were a number of glitches in that version of KSP. I would strongly recommend to upgrade to 1.12.3 (that should be uneventful).
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<Webchat773> I want the Principia mod
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<_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] Mirviy commented on issue #3378: Extremely low performance near/at-the-surface-of Pluto. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3378#issuecomment-1158992362
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<_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] dgeastman commented on issue #3375: Crash to desktop and corrupted save after Phobos flyby - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3375#issuecomment-1159213398
<queqiao-> ⟨Icey⟩ Any idea why principia would be giving me too short burn times
<queqiao-> ⟨Icey⟩ it looks like the counter seems to be a few seconds too short for the current engine, ending with MJ screwing up the burn
<queqiao-> ⟨Icey⟩ It also jumps the manoeuver node to the next step
<queqiao-> ⟨R-T-B⟩ you mean celestialbodies? Not well at all IIRC
<queqiao-> ⟨R-T-B⟩ or maybe it's removal
<queqiao-> ⟨R-T-B⟩ one of those breaks it
<queqiao-> ⟨R-T-B⟩ (or both)