02:06 <queqiao-> ⟨Centaur Enjoyer⟩ https://matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.mockingbirdnest.com/mzeCEqMlYAbcGMdpRFlpRsGL/unknown.png

02:06 <queqiao-> ⟨Centaur Enjoyer⟩ Dear god....

02:10 <queqiao-> ⟨BeastyOne⟩ Dont look at the ecliptic plane, tis a silly place

02:39 <queqiao-> ⟨Quadrupole⟩ Congratulations! You discovered star trail.

12:03 <_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3385: Keep appending to non-collapsible segments until they are long enough to downsample - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3385

12:14 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ what would be the highest apoapsis I can have around the moon with the orbit still being stable around the moon

12:44 <queqiao-> ⟨leudaimon⟩ This question is kind of meaningless without the period you want it to be stable for, as nothing is stable indefinitely around the moon except in very specific situations

12:46 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ I want a polar relay satelite with a low periapsis on one pole and a high apoapsis on another so far side lunar landers would be able to connect to earth through it while its at its apoapsis

12:48 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ so only long enough for 2 far side landers... maybe a year=

12:48 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ * year?

12:49 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ I am sure Capitán de Fragata Martin Lara has written a paper or five about that

12:50 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ yeah, Repeat Ground Track Lunar Orbits in the Full-Potential Plus Third-Body Problem, Orbit B

14:02 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ i dont know how to do a rendezvous with principia. I selecrted a target and am trying to burn tangential in the ECI frame but my plan length increases like crazy and lags my game out

15:06 <_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3385: Keep appending to non-collapsible segments until they are long enough to downsample - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3385

15:06 <_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] pleroy closed issue #3375: Crash to desktop and corrupted save after Phobos flyby - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3375

15:09 <queqiao-> ⟨xErii⟩ How do I get the Moon's current inclination?

15:25 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ TheSquirrelPatrol we need you to try going to Mars with this test build; we think it should solve your crash. Bear in mind it will not fix the large uncompressed size of already-existing vessels. https://bit.ly/3OASND6

15:25 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ (note that this is a Windows-only test build.)

15:30 <queqiao-> ⟨Centaur Enjoyer⟩ ⟪xErii⟫ How do I get the Moon's current […] ⮪ Ascent guidance has an option, if you target the moon, you'll see a few new options below.

15:40 <queqiao-> ⟨Quadrupole⟩ Alternatively, you can check MJ target info

16:29 <queqiao-> ⟨Overloader⟩ I really like the principia mod but the more I play it the more I feel like it doesnt fit me... Is it save to remove or is it save braking?

16:29 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ if you have something on a transfer trajectory it might end up going to the wrong place, but otherwise things should be fine.

20:13 <queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ ⟪egg⟫ TheSquirrelPatrol we need you to try […] ⮪ It seemed better, I was able to do my set of manuevers at Mars that usually caused a crash on scene change after and all was well, but then I went to the tracking center to clear out some dead craft and visit a couple others and the game gave me the same silent ctd.

20:15 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ ⟪TheSquirrelPatrol⟫ It seemed better, I was able to do my […] ⮪ the game gave you that crash on scene transition, or while clearing the crafts? also, what does your FATAL say?

20:22 <queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ I was able to transition back to space center after several manuevers at mars, enter the tracking center, and clear about 3 craft, then it crashed.

20:23 <queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ I don't have a FATAL for today, just info, warning, and error

20:24 <queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ Interstingly, the final persistent.sfs is only 49k, it was 64k or so before I started clearing craft, and usually was 65k+ when it would crash. I'll see if that save wil reload or not

20:28 <queqiao-> ⟨TheSquirrelPatrol⟩ Yes, it crashed out, but doesn't seem to have broken the sfs, I was able to reload into a good state.

21:17 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ ⟪TheSquirrelPatrol⟫ Yes, it crashed out, but doesn't seem […] ⮪ … progress, I suppose! If you can reproduce a crash try to journal it; it sounds like we have indeed eliminated 3375, but that new crash should probably keep us on our toe…

21:17 <queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ * toes…