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<queqiao-> ⟨maravone⟩ its Mercury noodle time
<paculino> Fluffy: Veni, cecidi, volvi
<queqiao-> ⟨kerbmario⟩ Meow
<queqiao-> ⟨blackeagle_612⟩ Is it possible to achieve a somewhat stationary orbit for a farside relay of the moon thats not the L2 point? Or how are you guys normally handling things like farside landings?
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<queqiao-> ⟨qazerowl⟩ Short answer: no. You can get something unstable in L2, put something in a highly elliptical orbit to maximize time over one side (sort of like a molniya orbit), or do a constellation that ensures full coverage
<queqiao-> ⟨blothorn⟩ L4/L5 should also give partial coverage of the far side.
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3742: Next release is Jensen - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3742
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3742: Next release is Jensen - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3742
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy created tag 2023081610-Jacobi - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy tagged ea7575e as 2023081610-Jacobi https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/commit/ea7575ea7e8991876ec1ffe455f2043018b30ad9
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ ⟪blothorn⟫ L4/L5 should also give partial coverage […] ⮪ They're so far you need big dishes though.
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ ⟪blackeagle_612⟫ Is it possible to achieve a somewhat […] ⮪ I use a dro constellation
<queqiao-> ⟨blackeagle_612⟩ ⟪butcher6994⟫ I use a dro constellation ⮪ Can you explain that a little please?
<queqiao-> ⟨(Lu)² (ping me when replying)⟩ Distant retrograde orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨blackeagle_612⟩ ⟪(Lu)² (ping me when replying)⟫ Distant retrograde orbit ⮪ Well... thats not exactly a explanation. I still don't quite find any usefull information on it other then that Chang'e 5 did that kind of.
<queqiao-> ⟨_itsryan⟩ Have a look at this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-37348-x#:~:text=Theory%20And%20Methods
<queqiao-> ⟨blackeagle_612⟩ Thanks !
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ I just kind of wobbled some probes into distant orbits that area at least quasi stable
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ * are
<raptop> off-brand use for principia? https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.05790
<queqiao-> ⟨zxjoshxz⟩ ⟪blackeagle_612⟫ Is it possible to achieve a somewhat […] ⮪ Another option is to have your breaking stage have a relay antenna on it so during your descent it’s right above you and can relay
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Not super useful for far side.