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<stupid_chris> Was an oficialer version of CompatibilityChecker for 1.3 released?
<stupid_chris> A parameter was added to PopupDialog and messes the whole thing up
<darklight> stupidchris I just fixed it myself when updating dmp
<darklight> It's trivial to fix
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<stupid_chris> darklight: yeah it is but it should be standardized
<stupid_chris> submitted an updated version to ferram earlier
<stupid_chris> darklight: also, happen to know what they did to the toolbars again?
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<G-Mobile> I dont know how math works in apple land, but safari is currently using 23% of CPU with spikes up to 480% on a dual core machine
<G-Mobile> 230%
<darklight> Does it have hyperthreading
<G-Mobile> If it does then it's only one core
<darklight> I thought cpu usage was just the time spent on it... not sure how they work that one out...
<darklight> I know load average can go over the cpu limit
<darklight> But that is different
<G-Mobile> load average can be the sum of percentages of all threads, confirmed 4 threada
<G-Mobile> so 480% is still almost an entire thread more than exists
<SilverFox> why would safari use that much?
<G-Mobile> It broke, and to close it out cuz the whole system was chugging
<G-Mobile> had*
<darklight> Greys linux also counts processes waiting for disk
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<SilverFox> *le gasp*!!
<SilverFox> I think I found another koreabox that ships to canada
<SilverFox> ;wa 14GBP to CAD
<kmath_> SilverFox: convert £14 (British pounds) to Canadian dollars: C$24.32 (Canadian dollars)
<darklight> Instead of trying to bring korea to you, why don't you go to korea?
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<darklight> Glorious leader would love to have you
<SilverFox> ;wa 22.49GBP to CAD
<kmath_> SilverFox: convert £22.49 (British pounds) to Canadian dollars: C$39.07 (Canadian dollars)
<SilverFox> oh
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<SilverFox> "When she was growing up, everybody laughed when Amy Schumer said she wanted to be a comedian. Nobody is laughing now"
<darklight> That's pretty good
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<G-Mobile> SilverFox: great idea, nerf railgun, get me a concept basic by fffrwhatdayisitiday
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<G-Mobile> darklight: new htc phone will have an 18:9 aspect ratio
<G-Mobile> Oh wait, thats just bad wording, the S8+ has that
<G-Mobile> HTC's big weird feature is crushbutton
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<G-Mobile> squeeze it to make stuff happen
<G-Mobile> I'd love crush to screen off
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<SilverFox> Greys, nerf is incompatible, needs to be magnetic for a railgun to work
<G-Mobile> not true, railguns operate on electrical arc nonsense, so the addition of a metal ring should work
<SilverFox> and what property do conductive metals have?
<SilverFox> magnetivity
<SilverFox> railguns use pulsed dc..or timed AC to create magnetic field in coils which induce force against a metal object
<SilverFox> but regardless, adding a metal ring to a nerf bullet would fuck with the ballistics
<G-Mobile> depends, I think it's entirely solvable
<G-Mobile> btw are you aware of nerf dart design mutations in recent series?
<SilverFox> ..no
<G-Mobile> the metal element could insert into that hole and run in slots to align for contacting
<G-Mobile> do unpowered ballistic objects with irregular lengthwise mass distribution behave as pendulums?
<SilverFox> they behave differently
<G-Mobile> Aka, would a heavy nose and the foam tail result in stable flight
<SilverFox> I believe the nose is heavier on a nerf dart
<G-Mobile> Yes but not substantially, if however we add a metal weight in the tip
<Tank2333> Just replace the cap with a FMJ one
<G-Mobile> too custom
<Tank2333> =profit
<SilverFox> oh, thing with railguns, they need lots of current
<Tank2333> Just buy a lathe and do ot yourself :)
<SilverFox> make a laythe
<G-Mobile> i feel that if you remove either the tip or the tail it's no longer a modification
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<G-Mobile> Fucking internet
<G-Mobile> there's nobody of significance on youtube who has reviewed the HTC U11, but there is an chinese advertising video explaining the curush button feature in terms of squeezing girls in bikinis
<G-Mobile> oh dang, its worse than I thought
<darklight> Squeezing girls is important, they kinda demand it
<G-Mobile> they're testing if the crush button cab be activated by a boobjob
<G-Mobile> anyway, youtube search "htc u11" and sort by view count to see uncomfortable chinese girls squeeze a phone with their tits for money
<SilverFox> wait hold up
<SilverFox> wtf is the sizing like in china where an american b cup is equivalent to a chinese d cup
<SilverFox> wait no, that was a fuckin E
<G-Mobile> you are the only person to care
<SilverFox> well it's important
<SilverFox> she cant even put the fuckin phone between them
<SilverFox> the test is invalid due to incomptency
<G-Mobile> also keep in mind that cup sizes are ratio ranges
<SilverFox> right
<G-Mobile> so if you have a girl with a quarter the underbust circumfrence, their boobs dont need to be that big to get a high letter
<SilverFox> holy shit the second woman can actually get the phone btween her tits
<kmath_> YouTube - How To Make Liquid OXYGEN
<G-Mobile> i linked that when we were talking about it
<SilverFox> mmmmmmmm naw you didnt
<SilverFox> this came out recently
<SilverFox> our talk was 2 days ago
<G-Mobile> thats recent
<SilverFox> yeah by recent I mean within the past 5-6 hours
<SilverFox> so this video is bullshit
<SilverFox> he bought oxygen in a can
<SilverFox> okay first half of the video is him bullshitting, second half seems to be actually getting liquid oxygen
<G-Mobile> The U11 has a 14MP rear camera, and 16MP selfie camera
<SilverFox> wat
<Tank2333> Madness
<SilverFox> this is bullshit
<SilverFox> ~wa 16Megapixels
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: pixel count | 16 megapixels: | pixel dimensions | shape
<SilverFox> mmmmmmm
<SilverFox> what resolution is that?
<Tank2333> 8000 or so
<SilverFox> 8k?
<Tank2333> I have no clue :)
<G-Mobile> ;wa square root of sixteen million
<kmath_> G-Mobile: sqrt(16000000) = 4000
<Tank2333> I was off just a bit
<G-Mobile> so fudge that for ratio and it's probably like 3kx2kish
<SilverFox> yeah but that's 4k * 4k
<SilverFox> you're missing 2k pixels there
<SilverFox> ~foxtime UTC
<SilverFox> ~FoxTime UTC
<FoxBot9000> Thu Jun 01 08:31:08 UTC 2017
<G-Mobile> i said fudging
<SilverFox> that's quite the fudge losing a good third-fourth of the pixels
<G-Mobile> Yea but it's area so getting correct numbers will rapidly account for it
<G-Mobile> ;c 2000 * 3000
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 6000000.0
<G-Mobile> ;c 2500 * 3500
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 8750000.0
<G-Mobile> See
<G-Mobile> ;c 2600 * 3900
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 10140000.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2048 * 3096
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 6340608.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2200 * 3200
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7040000.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2400 * 3400
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8160000.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2300 * 3300
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7590000.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2350 * 3350
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7872500.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2375 * 3375
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8015625.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2370 * 3370
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7986900.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2372 * 3372
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7998384.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2373 * 3373
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8004129.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.5 * 3372.5
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8001256.25
<SilverFox> hrmmm
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.25 * 3372.25
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999820.0625
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.4 * 3372.4
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000681.760000001
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.3 * 3372.3
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000107.290000001
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.275 * 3372.275
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999963.675625
<G-Mobile> Why are you linking them
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.28 * 3372.28
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999992.398400001
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.29 * 3372.29
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000049.844099999
<G-Mobile> ;c 2370 * 3374
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 7996380.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.285 * 3372.285
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000021.121224999
<SilverFox> omg
<G-Mobile> ;c 2370 * 3375
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 7998750.0
<G-Mobile> ;c 2370 * 3376
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 8001120.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2835 * 3372.2835
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000012.50437225
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.283 * 3372.283
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000009.632088999
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2828 * 3372.2828
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000008.483175839
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2825 * 3372.2825
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000006.759806249
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.282 * 3372.282
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000003.887524001
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2819 * 3372.2819
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000003.313067609
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2815 * 3372.2815
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000001.015242251
<G-Mobile> ;c 2369.5 3376
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 2369.53376
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.281 * 3372.281
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999998.142961
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2811 * 3372.2811
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999998.717417211
<G-Mobile> ;c 2369.5 * 3376
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 7999432.0
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2815 * 3372.2815
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000001.015242251
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.28125 * 3372.28125
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.5791015625
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.281275 * 3372.281275
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.722715625
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.28129 * 3372.28129
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.808884064
<G-Mobile> i quit, making me the victor
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<SilverFox> ~c 2372.2813 * 3372.2813
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.86632969
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.28135 * 3372.28135
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000000.153557824
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.281325 * 3372.281325
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000000.009943755
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.28132 * 3372.28132
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.981220943
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.281323 * 3372.281323
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 7999999.998454631
<SilverFox> close enough
<SilverFox> ~c 2372.281324 * 3372.281324
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox, 8000000.004199193
<SilverFox> yup
<G-Mobile> now solve it quadratically
<SilverFox> no
<G-Mobile> ;c 2372/3372
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 0.7034400948991696
<G-Mobile> ;c 8000000*.70344
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 5627520.0
<G-Mobile> ;c 1/.70344
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 1.4215853519845332
<G-Mobile> ;wa square root of 8 million
<kmath_> G-Mobile: sqrt(8000000) = 2000 sqrt(2)
<SilverFox> are you just a bit slow or insane?
<G-Mobile> ;c 2000 * 1.4215853
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 2843.1706
<G-Mobile> ;c 2000 * 0.70344
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 1406.8799999999999
<G-Mobile> There
<SilverFox> its supposed to be 2000 * sqrt(2)
<SilverFox> not 2k
<G-Mobile> wtf does that mean
<SilverFox> you keep using wolfram for finding sqrt
<G-Mobile> ;c sqrt(2)*2000
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 2828.42712474619
<G-Mobile> ;c sqrt(8000000)
<kmath_> G-Mobile: 2828.42712474619
<G-Mobile> Why is wolfbutt yiffa so bad at bein a bitch
<SilverFox> because it always is
<SilverFox> and you keep using it expecting different results
<G-Mobile> it used to be good
<G-Mobile> i expect these different results to not be there
<SilverFox> yet they're there
<SilverFox> and its been there for a while now
<G-Mobile> ;wa square root of jupiter
<kmath_> G-Mobile: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<G-Mobile> ;wa how far is time
<kmath_> G-Mobile: current time: 4:55:32 am EDT -> Thursday, June 1, 2017
<G-Mobile> what is the kelvin of time
<G-Mobile> we know all this stuff happened in very precise timespans after the big bang, but do we know how long it's been between then and now
<SilverFox> was reagan a good president?
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<VITAS> depends on your metric
<VITAS> but he was in a way the oposite of trump: many said beforehand, that he isnt qualified and will fail.
<SilverFox> that isnt the opposite of trump
<VITAS> with trump they said he will man up and improve.
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<VITAS> reagan was better than most ppl feared
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<VITAS> i think trump can be better compeared to bush jr.
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<SilverFox> THE SPANISh INQUISITION
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<VITAS> i think its sad that the us had so many strange presidents
<VITAS> for me as european its like " we want to make realy sure that none likes us anymore. Nonone!"
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<G-Mobile> Ok so, theoryshopping for U11 accessories, dbrant doesnt support it yet because the phone comes out next week, but playing with a similar phone for estimate prices and options
<G-Mobile> they have a color
<G-Mobile> HyperBlack
<G-Mobile> Titanium
<G-Mobile> Matte
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<G-Mobile> (Titanium is a white-bluemetal)
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<G-Mobile> Holy reasonable price batman!
<G-Mobile> To have dbrand inset a replica of the device logo into the back panel skin in a different material choice is only 95 cents
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<Tank2333> Can someone tell me why inductive charging is a rarity in smarphones? Is it too expensive for mid range ones?
<darklight> I'd assume efficency
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<darklight> And maybe that you're asking for noise on the entire pcb?
<VITAS> and licensing cost
<VITAS> and the end user having the charger
<VITAS> and the majority of the market requesting it
<VITAS> and it making pocketcomputers slightly thicker
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<darklight> Also I honestly don't know what to make of trump, I do think that some of the coverage is retarded, and although he seems to stumble from media blunder to blunder, he doesn't appear to be going *that* badly
<SilverFox> yeah, despite constant negative covfefe
<darklight> The whole covfefe thing is an example of the media being completely moronic
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<darklight> (insert ana kasparian fucking dumb rant here)
<darklight> This is like 2 scoops level retarded
<darklight> "what does it mean what does it mean???" fucking coverage you dumbasses
<SilverFox> you see, this is why I dont play video games. I wrote a blog post about how this appeals to the male fantasy
<darklight> It also means donnie might have a typing disability from his tiny hands :D
<SilverFox> ~ud covfefe
<darklight> Ha
<darklight> Every day it becomes harder and harder not to call them the lying press
<darklight> Like they could do a much better job, but they clearly aren't interested in that :P
<VITAS> the merkel rage is real
<VITAS> so either hes missunderstood and bullied or he is an idiot
<darklight> merkel rage?
<G-Mobile> Tank2333: expense, performance, and build implications
<darklight> There's plenty of things that you can grill trump on, but what the media choses is dumb
<VITAS> yes she did an appearance at some local thing and said "it became clear to me in the past days that europe no longer can depend on the uk or the us"
<G-Mobile> The consumer must have a charger station, whether you provide it or not, which makes it insignificant to many customers
<VITAS> and she repeated it later
<VITAS> that was after the nato meetup
<G-Mobile> it takes a long time because it's an ineffective transfer
<darklight> Oh, internet privacy? yeah, we could report that HOLY SHIT IS THAT A REPORT ABOUT A RUSSIAN PISS FETISH
<VITAS> if someone who is known for not taking sides says something like that shes raging like mad
<G-Mobile> And you have to avoid metal and plastic exteriors
<darklight> Single payer healthcare? HOLY SHIT TRUMP HAS TWO SCOOPS OF ICECREAM
<SilverFox> LGBT rights getting cruxed? BUT THE COVFEFE
<darklight> SF yeah now you're getting it
<VITAS> in the end its about credebility
<darklight> Except afaik, gay marriage is still legal there
<Tank2333> VITAS we have election soon here in germany and i think her speech was also to secure votes
<VITAS> in which way?
<darklight> Vitas to be fair, nations require armies
<VITAS> and?
<darklight> There's nothing wrong with what she said there
<VITAS> everything is
<VITAS> 1. dont tell other countries how to run their budgets
<Tank2333> She is up for reelection and since trump is seen here mostly as just an incompetant president it makes here look like the rught person to stand up
<VITAS> 2. not every country wants to end up with an military compülex like the us
<VITAS> 3. expensive != quality
<darklight> Doesn't NATO contractually obligate you to 2%?
<SilverFox> wait did you just fukin umlaut complex?
<SilverFox> darklight, is canada a nato?
<VITAS> 4. you cant tell countries to spend x % of their income not taking into affect what their financial situation is
<Tank2333> Well... we have a 60 billion budget and not even a functional army :(
<VITAS> 5. you can ask but not demand
<VITAS> Tank2333, wqe dont WANT a functional army
<VITAS> ...and its 60 billion because the system where the army spends their budget with was wide open and i ordered pizza for 10 billion last month ) :P
<Tank2333> Maybe
<Tank2333> Lol
<Tank2333> Oh so you are german i guess
<VITAS> yes
<Tank2333> Okay :)
<darklight> You don't have to go full america with a military, but you should be able to "hold your own" if that makes sense
<SilverFox> Canadian military is respectible
<Tank2333> Also the 2% thing was set in 2014 and the goal is to have it by 2020 or so
<SilverFox> hrmmm
<SilverFox> Idk if that would be good for us or not
<VITAS> trumps suggestion caame froms ame same view like those abuse mails i get from $copyright holder reffering to the digital mellenium act law thingy
<SilverFox> I think our current % is about 1.2~
<Tank2333> Not sure why he gets so upset about it and the cost of the usa bases in ger. Is not even in the military budget
<darklight> If america totally pulls out of the middle east what would happen
<SilverFox> no more bomb babies
<Tank2333> Isreal nuking palestina
<G-Mobile> 30% more pork bellies
<SilverFox> usa could focus more on north korae
<Tank2333> Korea nukes korea
<VITAS> the us have a broken infrastructure and are basicly bancrupt and hes lecturing other countries on how to best spend their income?
<Tank2333> Russia nukes ukraine
<Tank2333> Trump gets reelected. Maga
<darklight> You seem to be placing a lot of dependance on the US to hold things together
<G-Mobile> operation paul buyon II: the next tree to fell
<Tank2333> VITAS he has not a clue how countrys work
<VITAS> i want to make bets on the skin color of the next president!
<VITAS> blue maybe?
<VITAS> :D
<darklight> Obviously you don't want a money sink either, theres enough of those
<SilverFox> im blue dabadeebodabei
<VITAS> the sky is blue and iam too!
<darklight> Well you do have agent orange atm
<Tank2333> I was joking with the nuking
<G-Mobile> abadie you fucking millenial
<VITAS> orange hitler!
<Tank2333> Glysophat for everybody
<darklight> Eh, hitler at least committed to infrastructure spending
* darklight laughs
<SilverFox> Tank2333, best part is that it's close to the truth you cant tell
<VITAS> yes he did....to get his tanks where he wanted
<VITAS> :D
<Tank2333> Hail Autobahn
<TheKosmonaut> The Nazi Berlin looked pretty sweet though.
<VITAS> vorwärts!
<TheKosmonaut> If it ever was finished.
<VITAS> :D
<darklight> But yeah, I don't think it's fair to call trump hitler until he takes over mexico and canada, and starts gassing muzzies or mexicans
<VITAS> yes including its own weather in their cupola :P
<Tank2333> Not after the usa put some freedom into it
<G-Mobile> peoples house
<Tank2333> darklight hitler at least had a sharp mind
<VITAS> hitler was hitler before it was a war
<G-Mobile> before the drugs
<SilverFox> hitler was a painter
<TheKosmonaut> VITAS: there were Hitlers before Hitler.
<Tank2333> Yeah
<SilverFox> the bob ross of the 40's
<VITAS> there are lots of countries the us is bombing and everyone thinks its ok
<TheKosmonaut> So a proto-Hitler would be interesting.
<VITAS> like poland and hitler
<Tank2333> His pictures are pretty decent
<TheKosmonaut> Hmm, I wonder how common the name Hitler was before WWII
<VITAS> yes he had a father
<darklight> I don't know wether trump is setting things in motion with 4d chess, or if he is just having accidental success
<TheKosmonaut> or Mussolini
<VITAS> who ims ure siad afterwards "im not your father" :P
<Tank2333> We should sue the art school for causing ww2
<TheKosmonaut> !g adolf Hitler's father
<Qboid> TheKosmonaut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler [Alois Hitler - Wikipedia] (519000 results found, took 0.63s)
<VITAS> medium common
<Tank2333> Wich szcces darklight?
<darklight> Hitlers art probably isn't that great, but I think its a fucktun better than abstract art
<darklight> "I vommited colours!"
<VITAS> hitlers art is shit
<Tank2333> Did not realy read trump related stuff last few days
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<G-Mobile> it is abstract art though
<darklight> He could paint, but it kinda looks like any other paintings
<VITAS> and thats by default shit except miro and picasso
<VITAS> :)
<RoverDude> o/
<G-Mobile> hitler exclusively painted naked men depicted as buildings and landscapes
<VITAS> moin
<Tank2333> O/
<Tank2333> Moin too
<VITAS> G-Mobile, now you know
<G-Mobile> RoverDude: this is what you choose to walk in ob?
<G-Mobile> On
<VITAS> we have hitler and trump as topic
<SilverFox> it's been centuries, why the fuck did you come back?
<VITAS> what better discussion could you walk into?
<SilverFox> why would you want to?
<RoverDude> So basically business as usual
<darklight> I think its unfair to compare them currently...
<RoverDude> SilverFox, been a little busy.
<G-Mobile> because two spoons bought kermit hamster ballistics
<SilverFox> fair
<Tank2333> Dark yeah
<VITAS> yes hitler had no daughter he wanted to be to close to
<TheKosmonaut> RoverDude: what you been busy with? I can't possibly imagine.
<TheKosmonaut> :D
<VITAS> and hitler wasnt orange :D
<Tank2333> You cant realy compare trump to any recent leaders
<Tank2333> Leaders
<VITAS> yes they had better hair and no spasms
<TheKosmonaut> What counts as recent? Currently in power?
<VITAS> julius cesar
<darklight> Le pen would have been interesting :P
<VITAS> :D
<Tank2333> 80 years
<TheKosmonaut> Tank2333: 80 years is recent?
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: you have until monday tobmake a game where kermit launches hamsters at over the horizon targets, to recieve 2000 * sqrt2 points
<VITAS> USA recent or europe recent?
<VITAS> :>
<Tank2333> From a mankind perspective
<TheKosmonaut> I mean, you had Pol Pot
<TheKosmonaut> That was relatively recent.
<VITAS> idi amin oer how hes called
<VITAS> and putin is also shaping up nicely
<darklight> You know I haven't actually looked into what russia actually does
<Tank2333> Im not sure what to think of putin tbh
<VITAS> take money from countries
<VITAS> putin is an intelligent trump
<darklight> He seems to pull of the leader thing decently
<VITAS> dictator thing?
<VITAS> yes
<VITAS> ah speaking of dictator: erdogan
<darklight> Turkey is fucking gross
<Tank2333> Yeah
<G-Mobile> ideal KHB mechanics: the player is given a map, with thier own location indicated, then they receive reports from scouts with their location, range to target, and angle to target
<TheKosmonaut> Well, Turkmenistan stil exists too
<VITAS> and i think its still better thann russia
<TheKosmonaut> Then N Korea
<Tank2333> 100000 peopöe got arrested o think
<SilverFox> Greys/ G-Mobile, who the fuck is kermit? the frog?
<TheKosmonaut> SilverFox: the Sesame Street character.
<VITAS> north korea is different: its dictatorship ins econd generation
<darklight> Why is turkey in nato.
<G-Mobile> then they have to figure out the angle, inclination, and force to launch the hamster and hit the target
<VITAS> because they shoot down russian planes?
<SilverFox> isnt nato a north american thing?
<Tank2333> Because the are closer to the middle east
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, so like Kitten Cannon but with hamsters?
<TheKosmonaut> darklight: becasuse it was advantageous to have them in during the Cold War
<VITAS> no trukey and nato has to do with cold war and rockets
<G-Mobile> bonus points for a diverse selection of munitions with varying behavior
<Tank2333> Nato is a europa america ally
<darklight> Fair enough
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: yes but in 3D, first person, like a mix of viscera cleanup crew and silent hunter
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, if you dont answer my questions, I wont make shit
<SilverFox> does it have to be VR?
<G-Mobile> i never said VR
<SilverFox> Im asking
<SilverFox> is it a requirement that it has vr support?
<G-Mobile> it must be available in not-vr, but if you want to do vr thats probably a profitable choice
<SilverFox> too bad, I cant do VR
<G-Mobile> ok then dont
<SilverFox> ok
<SilverFox> so kitten cannon, 3d, different animal choices and behaviours
<darklight> I also think trump is a symptom, not a cause
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: monday might be too soon, but the scope of this game is within abilities you have previously demonstrated, if you do it well enough I can imagine selling it for 3$ and going viral
<SilverFox> 4.99 or bust
<G-Mobile> that will cut into your sales
<SilverFox> naw
<SilverFox> what sales?
<G-Mobile> 2.99 and 4.99 are in different psychological weight classes
<VITAS> 95
<SilverFox> yeah, i'll compromise
<SilverFox> 3.95
<VITAS> i want someone to make a game where you have to build a treehouse
<darklight> VITAS, ARK
<SilverFox> one of the VR games I once watched would have that covered
<SilverFox> its on steam and it's a builder-like
<VITAS> treehous as in kid build treehouse
<G-Mobile> if this were successful and justified more effort, you could get it to a point that justifies 10$ but that would be more effort and probably a proper artist
<SilverFox> !yt codename kids next door opening
<SilverFox> yeah I cant do art
<VITAS> im willing to accept royalties for that idea :P
<G-Mobile> but can you do good art
<SilverFox> naw fuck you
<darklight> Isn't vr just for prons
<G-Mobile> Can you make assets as good as stock ksp
<SilverFox> nope
* VITAS went to arts school and studyed mediasience at university :D
<G-Mobile> exactly
<SilverFox> do you remember my time building minecraft in unity?
<darklight> KSP assets aren't an extremely high bar
<SilverFox> REMEMBER THE GRASS TEXTURES?
<G-Mobile> yep
<G-Mobile> your dirt looked fake as shit
<VITAS> fake dirt....
<SilverFox> so you know my capabilities in art
<darklight> media science?
<VITAS> yes
<VITAS> computer & media sience
<SilverFox> computer science and media science?
<SilverFox> or computer and media science?
<VITAS> that thing where you learn to design chips and also watch odessy 2001 all day long :/
<darklight> Is that different to a degree in yellow journalism? :P
<SilverFox> Greys, give the project a name
<VITAS> SilverFox, the first one
<SilverFox> VITAS, good, if it was the latter I'd have to beat your pansy ass
<VITAS> and yes that was before social fuck was inyourfacebook
<darklight> Facebook is retarded and I'm glad I don't have one
<darklight> CLICK HERE TO GET X BONUS IN MAFIAWARS
<VITAS> i do irc and ksp forums
<VITAS> thats enough
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, would you be willing to give me a small loan of 1 thousand dollars so that I could get a Vive and sell the game for 9.99?
<darklight> No, wall spaming stahp
<darklight> I don't touch the forums outside of dmps thread
<darklight> And I only check that once every 2 weeks or so
<SilverFox> i don't touch the forums at all anymore
<VITAS> SilverFox, what game?
<SilverFox> but I bet I still have the 32 followers on the KWS thread
<SilverFox> VITAS, 3D kitten cannon with animals
<VITAS> shooting animals?
<darklight> I assume the forums are like this https://youtu.be/nfJT59e2RiI
<kmath_> YouTube - autism has become an epidemic
<SilverFox> out of a cannon
<VITAS> not a good idea
<darklight> Oh damn bit ruins everything
<VITAS> wired ppl love cats
<darklight> *bot
<SilverFox> wait Greys, what if we make it a mobile app too?
<G-Mobile> the controls would suck
<SilverFox> use phone's gyro
<SilverFox> press button to fire
<G-Mobile> supersuck
<darklight> Are you trying to make amgry birds
<SilverFox> darklight, fuck angry birds
<G-Mobile> the opposite of supernovy
<SilverFox> this is before angry birds' creator even existed
<darklight> Angry birds has beaten you to market
<G-Mobile> I'm thinking it could be called Barrage, or Indirect Fire
<darklight> Greys, what about "you can't barrage the farage" but make the level impossible to complete
<Supernovy> oh kitten cannon
<G-Mobile> but in 3D and you have to figure out the firing solution
<Supernovy> good times
<SilverFox> Greys, look at kitten cannon, give it a play
<G-Mobile> to old to run
<SilverFox> what
<kmath_> YouTube - Mechanical Computer (All Parts) - Basic Mechanisms In Fire Control Computers
* darklight wonders if the UK wishes that farage didn't leave
<SilverFox> Greys, why do you want this game?
<Supernovy> just study that video, make your own mechanical fire control computer, and you'll win every time.
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: because I like fun
<G-Mobile> and I think you can make it
<SilverFox> alright, well, I cant gaurantee that
<SilverFox> I'll try
<G-Mobile> And I think it could make you a chunk of money
<SilverFox> it'll start out as spheres and cylinders
<SilverFox> I dont think it will make any money
<G-Mobile> which might make your less insufferable
<SilverFox> the CAD is too shit to make money
<G-Mobile> cad?
<darklight> inb4 sf turns into a billionare and becomes the canadian president
<SilverFox> canadian dollar
<SilverFox> wtf how do you not know that
<darklight> Sf yeah that's what I mean, weak cad means you earn more charing in usd
<darklight> *charging
<G-Mobile> So sell it in USD and spend it in USD
<SilverFox> yeah but I wont make any usd because no one will buy this
<SilverFox> spend what
<G-Mobile> have you never seen youtube
<SilverFox> no, I've never seen a youtube
<G-Mobile> have you not seen happywheels?
<G-Mobile> Have you not watched viscera cleanup crew?
<darklight> You could buy the best fursuit, and then have all the bitches
<G-Mobile> Side note, I havent used the headphone jack on my phone in like eight months
<darklight> Becoming popufur
<SilverFox> happywheels has decent art and gore and a level editor
<G-Mobile> It had bad art, you will have gore and can have multiplayer
<SilverFox> fuckin wut
<SilverFox> multiplayer?
<SilverFox> how
<G-Mobile> mechanized artillery
<SilverFox> I havent done a sucessful multiplayer experience
<darklight> Neither have I
<G-Mobile> players can move around and can direct thier scouts and then try to fire on eachother without getting shot
<SilverFox> DMP is sucessful
<SilverFox> that sounds like world of tanks
<SilverFox> no thanks
<G-Mobile> thats a two point seven feature anyway, for now proof of axolotl
<darklight> Have you played DMP? there is a reason there's only 30 actives at any one time :P
<G-Mobile> darklight: you're also hacking multiplayer into an unsuitable structure from the outside
<darklight> There's 3 things I can think of though to really help it though
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, trying to mimic cod and battlefield is a losing game
<darklight> 20hz, calculating a curve from posistion instead of linear interpolation, and maybe udp mesh
<darklight> Oh, and saving part offsets
<darklight> So bendy wings stay bendy during updates
<SilverFox> wait dmp doesn't save part offsets?
<G-Mobile> cod is about robots and wall running, battlefield is about fauxniche guns and destructable terrain
<darklight> When dmp updates a vessel all the parts snap back to their rails state
<G-Mobile> this is about geometry and trig
<G-Mobile> #secretmathgames
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<SilverFox> ~g coolmath4kids
<FoxBot9000> SilverFox: https://www.coolmath4kids.com/
<SilverFox> #supersekret
<darklight> I should actually build something to inject an update and see how KSP handles error
<SilverFox> fuck yeah modstats
<G-Mobile> say RoverDude, were you the ones that gotbhired by Valve?
<SilverFox> so greys, come up with some animals that can be characters and their flight characteristics and abilities in flight the player can activate
<darklight> Silverfox, a completely spherical cow that is moving in a vacuum should be easy to figure out
<SilverFox> im updating unity
<G-Mobile> Spider egg: cluster munition, at configured airburst altitude it blows and releases 30 spiders that spread out and are effected by wind, small weak explosions with lots of fragmentation
<G-Mobile> sigar glider: smart munition can steer toward target for the last like 500 meters
<G-Mobile> sugar
<G-Mobile> groundhog: bunkerbuster
<darklight> Greys are you trying to create worms
<darklight> Worms was fun :3
<G-Mobile> no
<G-Mobile> you could have read any of this to know not that
<darklight> I saw the weapons and thought worms
<G-Mobile> some of these are weird and cool
<G-Mobile> Artillery disseminated mines
<G-Mobile> Chemical weapons
<G-Mobile> propaganda
<G-Mobile> if scout teams had sight behavior instead of just LoS and range, you could have a night cycle where you would benefit from firing illumination shells on an area to boost discovery
<G-Mobile> and likewise you could fire flares, chaff, and ECM at enemy scouts to disable them
<G-Mobile> those things would have much wider effect areas so you wouldnt need as precise of a firing solution
<Tank2333> Just use clusterbombs for gods sake
<darklight> I'm pretty sure israels iron dome does not fire chaff and flares
<G-Mobile> wimd effect, and they leave live munitions on the ground that could later blow up in your face
<G-Mobile> wind*
<Tank2333> This surgery strikes are for girls
<G-Mobile> We'll see how the meta works out
<SilverFox> okay I have an idea
<SilverFox> one that properly supports multiplayer
<Tank2333> A few years ago ive seen self steering artelliry shells,
<SilverFox> player 1 is in a plane, a bomber, armed with hte range of munitions
<SilverFox> you choose your munition as you take off and shit
<SilverFox> and then swap them out as you fly over and scout the enemy bunker base
<SilverFox> each bunker can be of different type of modules, some deeper than others, some have protections
<SilverFox> that's player 2's job to design the base
<SilverFox> player 2 needs to make sure that their important hitler person and documents make it to the other base that's connected
<SilverFox> player 1 wins by destroying the bunker path
<SilverFox> bonus points for blowing up the bunker with the intel and hitler
<SilverFox> but it's harder because if you miss, you have to wait until you go back around which wastes time
<G-Mobile> i think air presence will remove a lot of the interest of the game
<Tank2333> What if i dont want to koll hitler?
<darklight> Hitler was a victim of russian hacking their election
<SilverFox> Tank2333, then you lose
<Tank2333> :)
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, I think it creates a much lower skill cieling
<G-Mobile> lower skill ceiling is bad
<SilverFox> it's easier to drop limited ammunitions than it is to aim it from far away
<G-Mobile> lower skill floor is good
<SilverFox> yeah that
<darklight> I dunno, flying planes is hard. If I was an aii
<SilverFox> fuck u know what I meant
<G-Mobile> skill ceiling is how much skill can be applied
<SilverFox> darklight, plane flies itself
<darklight> *airline I'd be broke from the death payouts
<Tank2333> G-Mobile what an old way of thinking
<Tank2333> Casual gamers is where its at!
<G-Mobile> thats why it's good to have a low skill floor
<darklight> SF is this like the budget f
<G-Mobile> how much skill is necessary to play
<darklight> will balance itself
<darklight> Also holy crap does my touchscreen become bad when you plug the phone in
<Tank2333> How is wot on the skill ceiling level?
<TheKosmonaut> Tank2333: it's not that great
<TheKosmonaut> It gets VERY grindy very quick
<TheKosmonaut> It's less about being skilled and more about who buys the biggest tanks
<G-Mobile> Wort of twinks?
<darklight> World of twinks should be sf's VR game
<G-Mobile> ;wa 6/9/2017-3/1/2014
<SilverFox> the fuck you on about
<kmath_> G-Mobile: Friday, June 9, 2017 to Saturday, March 1, 2014: 3 years 3 months 8 days
<G-Mobile> My phone is too old
<darklight> Oh that's right, americans write dates like retards
<G-Mobile> Depends
<G-Mobile> I put loggeries in yyyy/MM/DD
<darklight> It stems from the way you say dates
<SilverFox> day month year
<G-Mobile> so that it always sorts right
<SilverFox> wait, you put your year in lowercase?
<darklight> "1st of june" compared to "june 1st"
<G-Mobile> I give WRA what I think will work
<G-Mobile> it tends to favor americanisms
<darklight> proper way is obviously y/m/d h:m:s
<darklight> big to small, just like numbers
<SilverFox> Greys, what's the deadline on the prototype for this project?
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<RoverDude> G-Mobile, no, Take Two Interactive.
<SilverFox> Sunday School is a sin
<SilverFox> "Our Lord and saviour doesn't need help keeping the interest of people" ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
<SilverFox> G-Mobile, what is the damn deadline for the prototype?
<SilverFox> okay how the fuck do I shoot a fucking thing along an axis that is itself
<SilverFox> this damn capsule is rotated 45 degrees like an artillery gun
<G-Mobile> Wha...
<G-Mobile> SilverFox: do you have time to work on it soon?
<SilverFox> yeah, im working on it right now
<G-Mobile> Then monday
<SilverFox> oh shit
<SilverFox> idk how to do aerodynamics
<G-Mobile> Build it with placeholders you can easily change out later
<G-Mobile> For a while static drag will be fine
<SilverFox> yeah except the shapes need to rotate as necessary in the air
<SilverFox> like how a shell follows the ballistic arc
<G-Mobile> Ignore the object for drag, make it point at the forward vector and for now use a static drag factor that resists the forwardvector
<G-Mobile> we'll badger badger badger badger ferram later
<SilverFox> aight
<SilverFox> well, I have a snapshot so far
<SilverFox> there's Cannon, and it shoots a capsule
<SilverFox> if I had a way of making gifs easily, that'd be great
<SilverFox> except im getting a headache...so ima take a break for now
<G-Mobile> Work calls, bbl
<SilverFox> I made a rocket addon for the shells
<darklight> I suspect you could bullshit lift by working out the cross sectional area :P
<SilverFox> dont need lift, need drag
<SilverFox> so the bullet curves downward by gravity
<darklight> Ah ok
<SilverFox> because it's angled up to start
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<SilverFox> and it stays that way all through flight and that's wrong
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<SilverFox> it's kinda fun just messing with the angles and power values seeing how far it'll go and shit
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<SilverFox> and there's a strange bug where sometimes the objects just go through the ground instead of hitting it and stopping
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<SilverFox> Apparently according to a survey done in japan, approximately 7.6% of the japanese population identifies as gay
<SilverFox> that is remarkebly high
<darklight> That seems a lot higher than what I would expect
<SilverFox> I think that's higher than america or canada, maybe even combined
<darklight> SF have you seen this? http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34744903 :P
<SilverFox> "Dr Rieger said: "In the past we thought it was true of all women that they were aroused by both sexes. The fact that it appears this is not the case is amazing.""
<SilverFox> this totally doesn't contradict the title at all
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<darklight> Also afaik, the rate for homosexuality hovers somewhere around 3%?
<darklight> maybe a little less, somewhere around there anyway
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<SilverFox> ugh
<SilverFox> I have one of those headaches thats a tad worse than annoying
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<SilverFox> I want to study, but I can't
<darklight> Try removing your head
<SilverFox> aw thanks
<SilverFox> well, cant feel my body now
<SilverFox> had to turn on text two speech
<SilverFox> head still hurts because my head is still attached to my head
<RandomJeb> it's really great promotion
<RandomJeb> americans are dumb as fuck
<SilverFox> pikachu-chu
<Greys> work is done, now the work begins
<kmath_> YouTube - Ubisoft new logo goes full white nationalist
<Greys> still image or I don't give a shit
<darklight> (This is as quality as gypsy shitposts go)
<kmath_> <Ubisoft> The new logo has landed! Check out our favorite responses >> https://t.co/7oakN1emIK || https://t.co/cTQlounlYK
<Greys> I don't get it
<darklight> 4chan made the ok sign racist
<Greys> he wants the pitcher to throw a curveball?
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<Greys> sorry, a slider
<darklight> I don't speak american
<darklight> You need to translate to prisoner
<Greys> it's baseball
<darklight> Yeah
<darklight> It doesn't exist here
<darklight> We play handegg and cricket
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<darklight> Handegg is more popular even though everyone is supposed to like cricket but it's boring as fuck
<Greys> the catcher stands behind the opposing batter, and issues directions to the pitcher in secret by wiggling fingers near his dick
<darklight> Ha, I just discovered I'm blocked on twitter by yet another person
<darklight> (I've never tweeted...)
<Greys> well there's your reason
<Greys> I block every strange bot-like non-user who follows me on twitter
<darklight> This account has be blocked https://twitter.com/KatCapps/status/858158225329233920
<kmath_> <KatCapps> @emmaroller Trump has normalized it. https://t.co/iNLBJqveMJ
<Greys> you are basically tailoring your account to look like a chinese clickfarm and people don't want to be involved with that
<darklight> Naa it's because of who I follow
<Greys> it's probably automatic
<Greys> you can auto block people based on tweet count and follower count
<Greys> there's also blacklist services
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<Greys> maybe you caught the eye of a blacklist service
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<darklight> Guilt by association is a common thing on twitter :P
<Greys> prejudice is necessary on the world's largest unregulated dark alley
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<darklight> Yeah, but it's twitter
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<darklight> Twitter is half garbage and half useful
<G-Mobile> Nah
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<darklight> It assists shitposting
<darklight> So it's half useful
<G-Mobile> its half garbage, 90% attacking you and everything you stand for, 99% horrible, and .00000001% worthy of existing
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<darklight> G-Mobile: But it distributes memes to the masses
<darklight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtySt6Fg30 check out that spicey meme
<kmath_> YouTube - STOP PUTTING MEMES IN MEDIA
<G-Mobile> 4chan used to do that
<G-Mobile> reddit could do that if it were less impossible
<G-Mobile> AIM was good for that
<G-Mobile> gaia onlike achieved that
<darklight> reddit is truely aweful
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<darklight> #bringbackthebarn
<Greys> reddit is only aweful because the interface is useless for everything
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<RandomJeb> reddit is bad, twitter is bad, facebook is bad, instagram, medium, minds, snapchat, etc.
<RandomJeb> it's terrible
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<RandomJeb> the one non-destructive use I've ever heard for all of these things is "keeping in touch with family/friends"
<RandomJeb> well guess what, people did that before they had dumb phones locked to a landline
<Greys> medium isn't bad, it's just a weird pointless alternative to wordpress
<Greys> I don't know what minds is
<Greys> also, you succeeded in forgetting google+
<darklight> minds is a twitter/facebook hybrid that's more "free speechy", at least that's the idea
<Greys> sounds like dumb
<Greys> I desire a service that's designed around establishing "virtual private social networks" so I can legit have a VPSN of family and not have to worry about posting weird porny manga shit in a different one and having it be seen by people who aren't in that one too
<Greys> the only reason I ever had facebook was to communicate with family, and it ceased to provide that function so I ceased using it
<Greys> but then because about 30% of my family is my aunt's preteen daughters (there's like 9 of them), I couldn't use it for anything
<darklight> I've no idea how the circles work
<darklight> But you're overlooking something
<darklight> Don't add family on facebook
<Greys> right but then why use facebook
<darklight> "Connect with friends"
<Greys> the only value in facebook is adding family
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<SilverFox> naw
<SilverFox> get dank memes
<darklight> See, useful twitter https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBMkB0oUwAEVfm7.jpg
<SilverFox> naru the fuck buddy
<SilverFox> rip in pepperonis
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<kmath_> YouTube - Slayer - Payback (Ukulele cover w/ Sarah Longfield)
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<G-Mobile> darklight: consider this, the design of facebook is to establish identity and then describe relationships between identities, the problem is that identity is a global construct, which is not true of humans
<G-Mobile> Its in fact only true of simple products
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<G-Mobile> which is why facebook works a bit for advertising
<G-Mobile> the problem with twitter is that it has no identity construct which is basically the same thing
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<G-Mobile> all people have many and dynamic identities over time and social space, so a network that leverages the non-finite nature of identity would serve it's userbase better
<Hyratel1> G-Mobile, that seems to be why tumblr works so well*
<G-Mobile> 4chan did decently by being identity agnostic, and reddit feels successful by being antagonistic to the concept of identity
<Hyratel1> *although it brings out the best and worst in people, but what doesn't?
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<G-Mobile> reddit isnt successful, it breeds scumholes and fawkist mass identity via concentrated peer pressure
<G-Mobile> Maybe rather than fawksit, reddit is no true scottsman as a social engineering process
<G-Mobile> But hyurtle, tumbler isnt social
<Hyratel1> maybe that's why I like it
<Hyratel1> or maybe that's why it works so well
<G-Mobile> these are valid arguments for tumblr
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<G-Mobile> I want a social network that serves my identity needs
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<G-Mobile> Googles circle concept might be a good basis but they need to be public instead of userbased and there needs to be some degree of AI creation and assembly, more thoughts later
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<xShadowx> https://youtu.be/YQIMGV5vtd4?t=40 and feeding skynet is a good idea how?
<kmath_> YouTube - A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors
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<SilverFox> G-Mobile, you up?
<SilverFox> Greys?
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<VITAS> Our goal is for KSP to continue to operate as usual for all aspects of KSP as much as possible. There may be some minor changes during the transition, but we and Take-Two are both committed to continuing to support the great KSP community, and there are no plans for any major changes to PR staff or the forums. <- at least
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<xShadowx> VITAS: that started sounding like T2 was sticking its fingers in spacedock XD
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<VITAS> they dont but if theyre not bound by curse anymore they could decide to dump mods all together or use steam workshop or... who knows
<xShadowx> mods made ksp, if they dump mods thatd be...ew
<VITAS> noone wants spacedock. im no blood thirsty startup that wants to cash in on its users. so im lame to the corporate world :D
<VITAS> i doubt they will but mods made battlefield 2 and it was the opposite of what EA wanted at the time
<VITAS> when its time to sell KSP 2 and mybe with the least possible effort having free new content for the old game is a problem
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<RandomJeb> in KSP2 there will be powerups like extra thrust and more fuel scattered throughout the kerbol system
<RandomJeb> when you collect enough of any kind of powerup you unlock achievements
<RandomJeb> when you land on the mun you win the game, there is only kerbin and the mun
<VITAS> you can buy rocket coins to fund your space program and research faster
<RandomJeb> and new textures for your kerbals and rockets
<VITAS> premium members will gain access to the beta
<VITAS> multiplayer will be available in the spinof "Kerbal online"
<RandomJeb> if you preorder you get the space race pack featuring special orange outfits for your kerbals and two digital stickers
<VITAS> ingame shops offer mod authors to sell their mods and get 20% of the revenue
<RandomJeb> since they have all these great features sadly you wont be able to build your own craft until you buy the rocket science DLC
<VITAS> beeing connected to the internet at all times is mandetory to help crack down on piorate copies
<RandomJeb> you can use rocket coins to buy rockets though
<VITAS> -o
<RandomJeb> it's gonna be a great game, I can't wait
<VITAS> WIth your purcase of ksp 2 or ksp online you allow your data and logs to be sold
<VITAS> simply sounds like some EA game :)
<VITAS> you can make an ubisoft game out of it if: your kerbals have to climb the launch tower in every sector of the planet to unlock it
<VITAS> :D
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