TheKosmonaut changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspcovfefe | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point |  Upon being elected Operator from 1:11:03AM to 1:11:19AM, GlassYuri immortalized his term with these words: “Do I have to give a fucking speech now?"
<SilverFox> that's pretty straight
<darklight> Its not going too bad now
<darklight> Before it put like a fucking metre kink in
<darklight> But only plowing.
<TheKosmonaut> darklight: People are mad at red5 on the forum now kek
<SilverFox> pfffft why
<TheKosmonaut> http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/161355-ksp-acquired-by-take-two-interactive/&page=26#comment-3096246
<darklight> red5 never struck me as a bad mod
<TheKosmonaut> He isnt, people just getting butthurt because that’s what they do
<darklight> And I don't blame banana man for enforcing the majiir rule against me
<SilverFox> aw fuck now I have to look at the kws thread
<Majiir> What's the Majiir rule?
<TheKosmonaut> Yeah, what *is* the Majiir rule?
<Majiir> I feel like there are a few
<SilverFox> Hail ModStats
<Majiir> Oh, is this the retarded "no contacting external servers" rule?
<darklight> "Warn users if the mod uses the network"
<darklight> No data collection either I think?
<darklight> Something like that :P
<SilverFox> wait, we cant contact external servers? that's stupid
<darklight> You can
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<darklight> Just read the plugin rules :P
<SilverFox> Majiir, you've also eaten goraebap right?
<Majiir> Idk
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<SilverFox> t's fuckin fish crackers with seaweed in em
<SilverFox> suped up goldfish
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<Glass|phone> I'm about to learn what an array is
<SilverFox> AWWWW SHIIIIIIEEET
<SilverFox> wait, hashmaps or arrays?
<SilverFox> this java class or unity class?
<Glass|phone> just fucking standard arrays
<Glass|phone> java
<Glass|phone> java is tuesday morning and unity tuesday afternoon
<SilverFox> nigga u drunk? it's monday
<Glass|phone> not everyone lives in the past you dumbfuck
<SilverFox> do I die in the future?
<darklight> Everyone dies.
* darklight remembers when my sister said something about timezones and the lunar eclipse
<darklight> I laughed :P
<Glass|phone> SilverFox: yeah you do, the chinese take over the world and didn't particularily lile your opinion on their music
<SilverFox> good
<SilverFox> I die with my dignity
<SilverFox> die a bravery than die a pussy bitch
<SilverFox> their language can go suck a dick
<Glass|phone> mfw my teacher has an array outta bounds exception
<Glass|phone> the problem we're working on is calculating the sum and avg of 5 integers
<SilverFox> nigga he wut
<SilverFox> show code
<Glass|phone> he did it on porpoise
<darklight> It is handy to know what that is...
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<Glass|phone> literally array[0] + array[1]... array[n+1]
<darklight> But I fear for the level of quality this game will have
<darklight> Nein
<darklight> That is hideous
<darklight> Have you not done for loops?
<Glass|phone> we did
<Glass|phone> if he wanted to make a point he should have written an off by one for loip
<darklight> inb4 he 1 indexes
<darklight> Of by one would be the most common
<Glass|phone> his code has the 0 index at the end of the + chain instead of before the 1
<SilverFox> why
<Glass|phone> also he's now explaining that you should not calculate the avg with ints
<SilverFox> yeah cause rounding
<Glass|phone> and then next will be that you have to floatcast one of the arguments or the / operator will still return int
<SilverFox> mhm
<darklight> When inputs are ints you can, so long as you don't do integer division
<SilverFox> yeah you can ether / flt or cast to flt
<Glass|phone> float = int/int still gives int, float = (float)int/int gives float
<darklight> No
<darklight> Cast the divisor to double :P
<darklight> I usually specify blah/2d if I am doing something fixed
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<Glass|phone> so freecad doesn't seem to have a portable version
<darklight> put on laptop
<darklight> portable!
<Glass|phone> I'm spending up to 9 hours in school, have to use that time for fucking something
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<darklight> Usually people fuck other humans
<SilverFox> use the newly obtained skills tomake one
<Glass|phone> that was rethorical 'fucking'
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<Glass|phone> s/was/was a/
<Qboid> Glass|phone meant to say: that was a rethorical 'fucking'
<Glass|phone> two dimensional arrays
<SilverFox> aw shit jagged arrays
<darklight> 2d is different from jagged
<SilverFox> how so?
<SilverFox> is 3d the jagged one?
<darklight> A 2x5 array isn't jagged
<Glass|phone> jagged is array in array, 2d is if an areay actually has two dimensions?
<Glass|phone> in c# it's the diff between [,] and [][]
<darklight> A {{0, 1}, {2, 3, 4 , 5}} array is
<darklight> Also are multidimension arrays common or do people just go [x+y*dimx]?
<Glass|phone> embedded c programmers might do that
<Glass|phone> but otherwise... whyyy would you
<SilverFox> what's a legit usecase for a 3d array?
<darklight> Silverfox, a video
<SilverFox> what do you mean?
<darklight> x,y,time
<SilverFox> ah right
<Glass|phone> x,y,time,r,g,b
<darklight> derps
<darklight> Although if you're youtube, yuv
<darklight> Kinda wish youtube supported rgb
<SilverFox> I mean, since this is C#, why not have a pixel object and have a 2D array of those? in a dictionary with key time and value pixel array?
<SilverFox> rather, make it a pixel struct
<darklight> Why would it be a dictionary?
<darklight> With an array its direct memory access there :P
<SilverFox> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<Majiir> darklight, x+y*dimx type math is how multidimensional arrays work
<Majiir> Jagged arrays are arrays of arrays, and are just Bad(tm)
<SilverFox> oh shit, majiir isn't idle into away any anymore
<SilverFox> now why are arrays of arrays bad?
<SilverFox> performance, semantics?
<Majiir> Both
<Majiir> It's not a valuable abstraction, and you pay a performance cost by dereferencing twice
<SilverFox> does this also apply to lists of lists?
<Majiir> Yes
<SilverFox> cool
<darklight> Majiir, I figured, but it's a useable feature
<darklight> Just gotta lug x and y instead of pos around though :P
<Majiir> Yes, and a usable diet plan is one where you wake up in the morning, do a handstand on a scale, and shit until the number goes down
<Majiir> It's something you can do
<SilverFox> now, what is dimx?
<Majiir> It doesn't mean you ever should
<darklight> The x dimension
<darklight> Bad naming
<darklight> Some call it stride maybe?
<Majiir> Stride is a good term for that
<SilverFox> why are you multiplying y by the x dimension when you have x in the first slot?
<Majiir> It's addition
<SilverFox> wut
<Majiir> Fox be less retarded pls
<Majiir> It's a way of mapping between 1-dimensional and multi-dimensional coordinates
<SilverFox> hrmmmmmmmmmm
<Majiir> You go along the X dimension until you hit the end, then you wrap around and increment Y by one
<Majiir> except doing that procedurally is fucking stupid
<Majiir> so we do it with math
<SilverFox> gotta spin up the hamster wheel for this one
<darklight> Look at a grid of numbers
<SilverFox> ye
<SilverFox> that's x, y*dimx right and not x+y*dimx?
<darklight> You'll see why it works
<darklight> No
<darklight> It's definitely +
<Majiir> a[x, y] = b[x + y*dimx]
<SilverFox> it's 2d array though right?
<Majiir> Multidimensional arrays are abstractions
<Majiir> They aren't "real"
<darklight> ...
<SilverFox> aw fuck this im out
<Majiir> There's no mechanism for you to allocate multidimensional memory
<darklight> It's a 1d mapping
<Majiir> This has very real performance implications when working with multidimensional arrays. They're a very "leaky" abstraction in that way.
<darklight> Maybe look at x+y*dimx+z*dimy? (iirc)
<Majiir> so much so that in practice, they're not all that useful IMO
<darklight> I might have brain farted
<darklight> But I am in a tractor
<darklight> Oh, last term will be dimx*dimy
<Majiir> darklight, x + y*dimx + z*dimx*dimy yeah
<Majiir> More clearly: x + dimx * (y + dimy * (z))
<Glass|phone> I don't have a facecancer account to watch
<SilverFox> oh
<SilverFox> dont worry, you'll get it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
<darklight> Neither do I but it let me play it
<darklight> Also sf confirmed gay :P
<Glass|phone> darklight: not on mobile
<SilverFox> I've been e x p o s e d
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<darklight> You've been rrrrrroooaaasted
<kmath> <Kudryqvkq> これを壁紙にしたのはどう考えても失敗だった https://t.co/yMLU6i390D
<SilverFox> you're welcome everyone
<Glass|phone> so far this school day has not required me to be awake
<SilverFox> cool
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<SilverFox> those days are simulateneously shit and great
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<SilverFox> Majiir, I think I just watched Elvis for the first time
<SilverFox> all the members are unrecognizable to me
<Majiir> One more so than the rest
<SilverFox> whom?
<Majiir> Youkyung
<SilverFox> that's a member? well then
<SilverFox> ~w Youkyung AoA
<SilverFox> oh she's gone, she don't matter no more
<Majiir> you shut your whore mouth
<SilverFox> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
<Majiir> I don't think they ever announced her being gone officially?
<Majiir> AOA Black just stopped doing stuff
<SilverFox> DOESNT EVEN HAVE A WIKI PAGE
<Majiir> She's a stealth member
<SilverFox> ~w AoA black
<kmath> <Il0vethe90s> Retweet if you remember this? https://t.co/zECXI1asMs
<SilverFox> nigga
<SilverFox> I think I had one of those
<SilverFox> at least, I knew someone who did
<SilverFox> Majiir, in AoA's wiki page go to their history and and read the 2012 paragraph, wtf are these names
<SilverFox> "Hyejeong Linus"?
<SilverFox> wait ew Jimin is the "leader" of the group
<Majiir> linus dongdong
<Majiir> minaring++
<SilverFox> Jiminel sounds like it's from the 80's
<Majiir> Hey look I think I'm on the AOA Wikipedia page
<SilverFox> "chanmi titi"
<Majiir> Oh nvm that's LA
<Glass|phone> SilverFox: I had a different one, but some children's hospital waiting room had that exact one
<SilverFox> nice
<SilverFox> wait, is youkyung in Good Luck?
<SilverFox> what AoA songs has she been in?
<Majiir> Moya and Elvis
<SilverFox> so I can never tell apart three of the people here
<SilverFox> middle left-left, middle-right, and middle-right-right
<SilverFox> and probably the one on the right too
<Majiir> precious, Seolhyun, dongdong, Yuna
<Majiir> how braindead are you m8
<Glass|phone> https://imgur.com/ZeAsgs6 why is that read in italics
<SilverFox> futa.png
<SilverFox> pr0n
<SilverFox> is dongdong the one with the stupidly yellowish face in comparison?
<Glass|phone> SilverFox confirmed for reading disability
<SilverFox> kek
<SilverFox> Majiir, by precious do you mean Mina?
<Majiir> yes
<SilverFox> okay great, not missing any important ones
<Glass|phone> SilverFox: how many fucking times have I seen that already
<SilverFox> 1
<SilverFox> at least
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<Glass|phone> like fucking 5
<SilverFox> its a good meme
<SilverFox> like, play your shitty vocaloid music and watch the gif match it
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<GlsFrg|phone> SilverFox: all chinese vocaloid has excellent videos, no need for dog gifs
<darklight> This is best doggo meme https://youtu.be/5dbG4wqN0rQ
<kmath> YouTube - dog_meme.avi
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<GlassUnity> oh right, this is the class where I slightly misunderstood what the teacher wants
<GlassUnity> so essentially we created a pickup that emits a small particle cloud when picked up
<GlassUnity> so the first thing we did was creating a trigger that deletes the object when triggered by the player, then added particles
<GlassUnity> but since deleting objects is handled by the Destroy() function, I kind of misunderstood this to be about destruction
<GlassUnity> and thus made my object to explode into a cloud of fucking anime eyes
<GlassUnity> right eyes to be precise
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<G-Mobile> Where is the misunderstanding?
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<GlassUnity> G-Mobile: a pick-up item with a subtle sparkle effect vs EYE EXPLOSION AAAGH
<G-Mobile> Subtly was not a requisite you mentioned
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<G-Mobile> ;wa 1 gram per pound
<kmath> G-Mobile: 1 g/lb (gram per pound): 1 g/lb (gram per pound), 0.002205, 2.205 parts per thousand
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<G-Mobile> When did thu derf00t cease to be a pedantic and reapititious but fundamentally sound kickstarter debunker to a fake news react channel
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<darklight> https://youtu.be/utGFLNYeOHU soooon
<kmath> YouTube - Glowspin - Soon (TM)
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<darklight> G-Mobile I like his science stuff, but the whole brexit thing is kinda insufferable :P
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<darklight> Also I find it odd he targetted sargon when his real beef should have been with vee and uzalu. I watch the gypsy, but not uzalu.
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<RandomJeb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHH2DFDcpH8 this is starting to get old, but it's such a nice video it deserves a second watch if you've seen it already
<kmath> YouTube - Hi Stranger (Original) - KIRSTEN LEPORE
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<SilverFox> Greys, have you ever seen tit physics where they seem to be on a hinge joint?
<SilverFox> like, a really old hinge joint that can slide back and forth as well?
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<SilverFox> icefire, did you disable kmath tells for my nick or does it just suck?
<icefire> if its not working for you and only you I'd call that a feature
<SilverFox> I havent tested it for others because kmath tells are shit
<icefire> whats bad about them
<SilverFox> I never get them
<SilverFox> which is a key feature of the tell system
<SilverFox> is that they get sent
<icefire> ohh its throwing an exception
<SilverFox> why is it throwing exceptions
<icefire> looks like ActiveRecord changed how to delete all records
<icefire> the rails devs really like to do this...
<SilverFox> I wrote my tell system myself, dont have to worry about other people's work interfering
<SilverFox> kmath is written in ruby?
<icefire> kmath used to use flat files for everything then I got tired of maintaining them
<SilverFox> I just use text files
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<Tank2333> ;kmath are you made out of rubys?
<kmath> Tank2333: My sources say no
<Tank2333> Dont be shy kmath
<SilverFox> ;kmath ?
<kmath> SilverFox: Yes definitely
<SilverFox> why the fuck did I just get all these tells
<icefire> because I fix
<SilverFox> congrats
<SilverFox> ;wa 3.8mi to km
<kmath> SilverFox: convert 3.8 miles to kilometers: 6.12 km (kilometers)
<SilverFox> ewwwwww this hotel sucks
<SilverFox> gonna make me fucking walk 6k to the nearest station, my ass
<SilverFox> ;kmath
<SilverFox> ;kmath
<SilverFox> ;kmath ?
<kmath> SilverFox: Most likely
<SilverFox> ;kmath x = 10; ?
<kmath> SilverFox: Concentrate and ask again
<SilverFox> ;kmath x = 10; ?
<kmath> SilverFox: Cannot predict now
<SilverFox> ;kmath x = 10; ?
<kmath> SilverFox: It is certain
<SilverFox> good
<SilverFox> ;kmath x < 11 ? no : yes;
<kmath> SilverFox: My sources say no
<SilverFox> thumbsup.jpg
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<darklight> ;kmath does silverfox have the smarts?
<kmath> darklight: Ask again later
<SilverFox> ;kmath is darklight asking stupid questions?
<kmath> SilverFox: Yeah
<SilverFox> yup
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